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posted July 24, 2007 06:52 PM |
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Sen. Robert Byrd 's thoughts on Dogfighting
This made me laugh till I cried... and my sides are still hurting 
Thought I'd add a bit of the funny to the OSM - since it's a senator, we can say it's political 
Click here to see teh Honarable Senator's views on this Barbaric crime
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posted July 24, 2007 06:56 PM |
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Edited by Corribus at 18:57, 24 Jul 2007.
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Someone needs to vote him out of office. He's been a senator since I will a little boy (actually much longer!), and sucking at it the whole time.
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posted July 24, 2007 07:33 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 19:45, 24 Jul 2007.
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ROTFLMAO
I even agree with the guy 
Thanx Pan, this made my day 
BARBARIC!!!!!!111
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posted July 24, 2007 07:34 PM |
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wow...
not that i disagree with anything he said about dogfighting... but he needs new batteries... the old ones are shorting out
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posted July 24, 2007 07:38 PM |
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LMAO
Poor guy!
Yea, he's been around a while. There was a whole bunch of those old guys who retired in the early 90s, but Byrd wasn't one of them.
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posted July 24, 2007 07:41 PM |
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Lol, I think he's got some neurological or ato-immune disease or something...He can't seem to keep his right hand still...
P.S: I counted it! He used the word 'Barbaric' 8 times!
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posted July 24, 2007 07:42 PM |
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*sigh*
What do you want him to do? Do you want him to resign his seat and office? Why, because he is old? He is in this position because his constituents have kept him there. If you don't think he should be in office then take action upon that basis and state your reasons why. If you think he is negligent in his duties then take issue with it.
I have my opinions on this matter and they are strong but I don't think this thread is at all intended to discuss that topic, but rather to make light of a person's old age.
Please try and keep in mind that he is one of the senators that tried his best to stop the war in Iraq. As I recall one of his speeches...."This is the first time in the history of this great nation that we would make a preemptive attack upon a foreign sovereign nation! A SOVEREIGN NATION! I WILL NOT BE SILENT! I WILL NOT BE SILENCED! It is illegal, immoral, and goes against everything this nation has ever fought to preserve."
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posted July 24, 2007 07:47 PM |
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posted July 24, 2007 07:50 PM |
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What do you want him to do? Do you want him to resign his seat and office? Why, because he is old?
Well uhm yeah... If a man's brain gets so squashed by years then it is sort of pointless for him to be a senator... I mean, that's like saying "Do you want that driver to never drive a bus anymore just because he lost his arms and legs?"
I mean, I don't really care, I don't live there, and politicians here ain't different too, I'm just being rational.
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This is the first time in the history of this great nation that we would make a preemptive attack upon a foreign sovereign nation!
Excluding North Korea, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan etc. His memory is worse than it seems...
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posted July 24, 2007 07:53 PM |
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Consis, I really don't like laughing at someone because of their age, but let's face it, it was funny.
For the record, he turns 90 years old this fall and he's been in the senate for 47 years.
I agree though, it's up to the voters in WV to decide who they want to represent them.
As far as funny, Alan Simpson was my favorite. I loved that guy, he was funny as hell...but on purpose.
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posted July 24, 2007 08:21 PM |
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Excluding North Korea, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan etc. His memory is worse than it seems...
North Korea invaded the south. They started it.
Yugoslavia? Naughty little Serbs need to learn to fight fair.
Afghanistan? Taliban openly supported Al-Quaeda. That doesn't work either.
So, yes. Iraq was the first country we preemptively invaded.
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posted July 24, 2007 09:26 PM |
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Consis, quit being such a stodgy old fart...
(penalty applied to me for direct insult)
I was not saying, hey lets all laugh at the man and make light of his battle with the years - I posted this because it's funny!
I agree with him too, btw. The reason i happened upon all of this was in light of the whole Michael Vick thing - and if all the allegations are true... well I won't get into detail as to how I'd see him punished.
the speech in itself is just plain funny...if you can't see that then you need to turn the volume up so the "Barbaric!!!" cries can knock you out of your chair a few times
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posted July 25, 2007 07:55 PM |
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About other countries:
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North Korea invaded the south. They started it.
Did they invade USA? No. Was Southern Korea American territory? No. So technically you invaded a sovereign nation.
I actually didn't mention that as a negative example (hey, whatever is against the commies is ok). The point of that post was to show how senile the senator was.
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Afghanistan? Taliban openly supported Al-Quaeda.
USSR openly supported North Korea, why didn't you invade them? Don't bother to respond to that, I understand. You've hardly enough managed to defeat a dozen of people in robes in the middle of a desert a few decades later. Funny.
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Yugoslavia? Naughty little Serbs need to learn to fight fair.
Naughty little rednecks need to learn that bombing the civilian population from a height of several miles isn't the definition of fair fighting either.
Naughty little rednecks need to wonder whether listening to sources other than Albanian would give them a little more accurate perspective on the situation.
Naughty little rednecks should sometimes remember what their own country was found upon and what they did to people who inhabited their lands before them.
Finally, naughty little rednecks should watch something other than Bush's television. For example, this. Or this. Or maybe this one.
There's more of course.
The point is, both sides were equally guilty. The difference is, we overthrew those of us who comitted crimes against Albanians, while Albanian war criminals are still on the loose and some on positions of power in Albania.
So please take your pitiful second-grade provocations and ignorant statements somewhere else.
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posted July 25, 2007 08:02 PM |
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oooh...
game.set.match: Baklava wins
now lets go back to laughing at senile old men
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posted July 25, 2007 08:07 PM |
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OMG that was the funniest thing I have ever heard, next to John Stewart on Crossfire.
Barbaric, as we role up the hills and over the mountains to grandmothers house we go.. LOL
Oh, Consis, good Lord, get out more or get a job or something, not everything has to be taken seriously, that **** was funny.
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posted July 26, 2007 02:27 AM |
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Baklava,
South Korea asked for our help when they were invaded. Do you know why? They were a member of the newly formed United Nations. If you've ever read the U.N. mission statement, it states very clearly that an attack on any member is considered an attack on all the members.
I have read way too much crap about the Korean "Conflict" as they like to call it. It's a complete dishonor to the soldiers not to call it a "war". It is not a pretty war and we did not win but we did not lose either.
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posted July 26, 2007 05:58 AM |
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Did they invade USA? No. Was Southern Korea American territory? No. So technically you invaded a sovereign nation.
I actually didn't mention that as a negative example (hey, whatever is against the commies is ok). The point of that post was to show how senile the senator was.
A poor choice to demonstrate who senile the senator is. What part of "North Korea was the aggressor" didn't you understand you little Balkanite? Hmm? Upset that the communist aggressor in this case was someone we were willing to engage with openly? Are you upset we didn't stop the Ruskies from their evil designs on Eastern Europe? Sorry.
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USSR openly supported North Korea, why didn't you invade them? Don't bother to respond to that, I understand. You've hardly enough managed to defeat a dozen of people in robes in the middle of a desert a few decades later. Funny.
Interesting. China is the nation we were afraid of drawing into the war and consequently, the USSR. The U.S. long overestimated the warm relations between the Sinos and the Soviets.
The second part of your little glib comment reveals just how little you understand about urban warfare. It is the last thing this nation wanted to get involved with. Much better to bomb the enemy from the sky and force them to capitulate. Does that ring a bell?
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Naughty little rednecks need to learn that bombing the civilian population from a height of several miles isn't the definition of fair fighting either.
Naughty little rednecks need to wonder whether listening to sources other than Albanian would give them a little more accurate perspective on the situation.
Naughty little rednecks should sometimes remember what their own country was found upon and what they did to people who inhabited their lands before them.
Finally, naughty little rednecks should watch something other than Bush's television. For example, this. Or this. Or maybe this one.
There's more of course.
The point is, both sides were equally guilty. The difference is, we overthrew those of us who comitted crimes against Albanians, while Albanian war criminals are still on the loose and some on positions of power in Albania.
So please take your pitiful second-grade provocations and ignorant statements somewhere else.
Much better to kill than be killed. Serbia's Air Force of course had the right to defend its nation. A pity that all Milosevic and his goons could produce were a few crop dusters and some RPGs. Of course Kosovo happened to involve all of NATO and not just the U.S. You have any rancor left over for the Luftwaffe or maybe the Greeks who were involved? Or would you just prefer to think the U.S. acted alone. That's ok. I'm used to that kind of attitude from young Euros.
My provocations are first rate I'll have you know. Normally I'd gladly look at you as a semi-replacement for SirDunco and go several rounds. But unlike him, you've got an admirable writing talent kid. I'd much rather you and I stay on friendly terms.
Edit: Removed inflammatory words generalizing the quality of character of Serbians and threats against Baklava. Some of my best friends growing up were Serbian. Vlaad's a helluva guy and you know, I'm just not interested in striking raw nerves with him. The Balkan region has had centuries of problems for which there are no easy answers.
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posted July 26, 2007 06:07 AM |
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Just ask Michael Vick.
He knows all about illegal dog fighting
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posted July 26, 2007 01:07 PM |
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South Korea asked for our help when they were invaded. Do you know why? They were a member of the newly formed United Nations. If you've ever read the U.N. mission statement, it states very clearly that an attack on any member is considered an attack on all the members.
Dude, I didn't say anything against the war with North Korea. Personally, I think it would be better for the people of NK if you won, but it's not up to me to judge. I just said that it was technically an attack on a sovereign nation.
I mean, during WW2, you were openly on the side of allies. And then the Japanese attacked you and you were publicly drawn into the war. But that's as if you said that what the Japanese did was not wrong because they just helped other members of the Tripartite Pact.
When you attack someone, you attack someone. Whether what you did was good or bad, it was technically an attack on a sovereign country.
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What part of "North Korea was the aggressor" didn't you understand you little Balkanite? Hmm? Upset that the communist aggressor in this case was someone we were willing to engage with openly? Are you upset we didn't stop the Ruskies from their evil designs on Eastern Europe? Sorry.
Sigh...
I clearly stated that I don't think the war with NK was bad. I actually even said "Whatever is against commies is ok". You're exactly like your government, you hear only what you want to hear and pretend deaf for everything else. I just said what the facts are.
And I won't repeat myself about it anymore. I explained it so that even the Teletubbies might understand. Republicans might still have some problems but they can ask the Teletubbies to explain them really slowly.
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The second part of your little glib comment reveals just how little you understand about urban warfare. It is the last thing this nation wanted to get involved with. Much better to bomb the enemy from the sky and force them to capitulate. Does that ring a bell?
Much better for you. Much better for civilians? Much better for the conscience of any civilized human being? That's another issue.
You're oh so knightly and honourable yet you're like "Civilian casualties? So what? For every 15 civilians we'll even kill a guy with a slingshot. So it's justified."
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A pity that all Milosevic and his goons could produce were a few crop dusters and some RPGs.
A pity that Milosevic did many things. A pity the bastard even walked the Earth.
But even besides that, we managed to knock out a few of USA F-117s from the sky. With our equipment which was mostly left over from WW2. Humiliating, isn't it?
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Of course Kosovo happened to involve all of NATO and not just the U.S. You have any rancor left over for the Luftwaffe or maybe the Greeks who were involved? Or would you just prefer to think the U.S. acted alone.
Of course US didn't act alone. But US was leading it, and all the other governments just kissed their a$$. Rather irritating, but we can do nothing about it. The TV clearly said how we are all evil, fascist, Sith-wielding terrorist baby-rapers so they agreed. No one likes to think much.
Milosevic would do the same if he had some brain. Basically the first thing offered to him was that you be able to station... what was it? 400 troops in Kosovo? Something like that. Before everything happened.
And the idiot was like "No! <insert pointless nationalist crap here>!"
And hence you bombed the civilians.
I don't know whether I hate Clinton or Milosevic more.
Well Milosevic I guess. In the long run, he harmed my country much more than US did.
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YES! THANK YOU JESUS!
That's the only thing I ever wanted you to realize. If you only realized that before the bombing...
PS My father almost got killed in the bombings, so my wish to explain the pointlessness of all that is even stronger. I'm sorry our discussion led the thread to a different direction, I was simply bound to answer to some things.
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posted July 26, 2007 04:19 PM |
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Have it your way kid
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This is the first time in the history of this great nation that we would make a preemptive attack upon a foreign sovereign nation!
Excluding North Korea, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan etc. His memory is worse than it seems...
What you are failing to comprehend is the part where he says "preemptive." The original four you mentioned were not preemptive, now were they? This most recent Iraq invasion was a preemptive assault.
North Korea? Nope. They invaded the South.
Yugoslavia? You mean Serbia I'm guessing. Nope. Nasty bit of ethnic cleansing got the attention of the civilized world. You mentioned my nation's experience with its own indigenous peoples. What can I say? After World War II genocidal campaigns have lost a bit of their luster.
Afghanistan? Nope. The ruling government in Afghanistan fully supported the terrorist network that has been waging war against the western world for over a decade now. Invading Afghanistan wasn't preemptive either.
Yet here you are trying to lecture me about what technically constitutes an invasion when it was you who failed to grasp what the senator was talking about.
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I explained it so that even the Teletubbies might understand. Republicans might still have some problems but they can ask the Teletubbies to explain them really slowly.
This is the second reference to me being a Republican. That's like me saying that since you're Serbian you must have approved of what your country's paramilitary units were doing.
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Much better for you. Much better for civilians? Much better for the conscience of any civilized human being? That's another issue.
You're oh so knightly and honourable yet you're like "Civilian casualties? So what? For every 15 civilians we'll even kill a guy with a slingshot. So it's justified."
Would you have preferred a land invasion that would have been far more ruinous to your country just to say that at least your guys were able to take a few our scalps? Civilian casualties are a terrible and unfortunate side effect of war. Please maintain the focus though. Why was NATO bombing your country in the first place?
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But even besides that, we managed to knock out a few of USA F-117s from the sky. With our equipment which was mostly left over from WW2. Humiliating, isn't it?
Not humiliating. Records indicate the Serbs downed one. Downing one of the F-117s showed a terrific kind of adaptation to a superior technology. Congratulations on having at least something to stick into a museum besides the bullet that got Ferdinand.
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Of course US didn't act alone. But US was leading it, and all the other governments just kissed their a$$. Rather irritating, but we can do nothing about it. The TV clearly said how we are all evil, fascist, Sith-wielding terrorist baby-rapers so they agreed. No one likes to think much.
Milosevic would do the same if he had some brain. Basically the first thing offered to him was that you be able to station... what was it? 400 troops in Kosovo? Something like that. Before everything happened.
And the idiot was like "No! <insert pointless nationalist crap here>!"
And hence you bombed the civilians.
I don't know whether I hate Clinton or Milosevic more.
Well Milosevic I guess. In the long run, he harmed my country much more than US did.
My country does tend to lead these things, doesn't it? Europe, as Terje pointed out a long time ago, has had such a storied history with modern warfare that most of the countries there are just sickened by it and use it as a last resort. Western European nations believe more strongly in diplomacy than just about any other block of nations in the world. There wasn't any ass-kissing. All other options were exhausted in trying to get your country's attention to get it to stop what it was doing.
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