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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted October 23, 2007 09:36 AM |
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About Raelag.
if you play the scenario "Agrael's Trial" you'll find out what happened with him:
R A E L A G = A G R A E L
Didn't see that coming !Did you?!
Actually, campaign 2 (Inferno campaign) and campaign 4 (Dungeon campaign) are all about Agrael / Raelag, and his transformation from one to the other.
The scenario "Agrael's Trial" is just his initiation into the Demonic hordes, sort of a precursor to the Inferno campaign in the standard HoMM5 game.
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Duncan
Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
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posted October 23, 2007 10:04 AM |
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About Raelag.
if you play the scenario "Agrael's Trial" you'll find out what happened with him:
R A E L A G = A G R A E L
Didn't see that coming !Did you?!
You are very funny 
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But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it.
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted October 23, 2007 06:43 PM |
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Actually I don't think that's right, Palaedra was the replacement kingdom for the destroyed Erathia in Heroes IV's storyline which was ruled by Lord Lysander, and should be in Axeoth, not Ashan. You seem to be going by the old beta map from when Nival wanted to use Axeoth but Ubisoft wouldn't let them.
I suppose all future stories will take place after Dark Messiah, since TotE already bridged the gap.
No, that map is strange, and i believe it is a map of the future of homm 5, and that map is a map of ashan, why? because a region near the holy griffin empire which is suposed to be the nation of warlocks and its capital ygg chal are gone, like it was hit by a very strong godlike power that can sunk a continent, may be a meteor or a moon, i have an insight, when asha awake, urgash also awake, in HoF, the underground land of warlock is near the demons land, so urgash awakening may destroy a large portion of a land above him, for he is a PRIMORDIAL DRAGON, then asha and urgash will fight once again, and all creatures of ashan will tremble before the power of the primordial gods.
Another note, that map was released after the one from the collector editon, in the map from collector edition, warlock's nation is still there, near the holy griffin empire.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 23, 2007 06:59 PM |
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It's not a future map. Trust me. Kreegar, Lost Palaedra and Tam AvLee are all references to places from the old storyline. The continent also cannot be called Palaedra since, as I mentioned before, it's a kingdom from Heroes IV, which makes it a direct reference to Axeoth's geography. Many of the locations on that map may have geographic similarities to the current one, and a good few names like Grimheim and Heresh were carried over, but other than that you will not be seeing all those locations together throughout any one time or place during the released game. Ubisoft stopped Nival from carrying over many aspects of Axeoth's story into Ashan, so it's obsolete.
In short. It is a beta map.
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted October 24, 2007 03:40 PM |
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Then, can you explain where is ygg chal in that map, another thing, why many people knew about hasima and nariya because of that map, not because the one from collector edition, last, why that map is more complete than the collector edition.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 24, 2007 03:44 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 15:46, 24 Oct 2007.
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No, Ygg-Chall clearly wasn't invented when that map was made. Hashima and Nariya don't necessarily even exist in Ashan. They are not mentioned whatsoever in either Heroes or Dark Messiah. Because you are taking your evidence from a beta map.
It is not more complete than the Collectors Edition map because it includes locations which don't exist in Ashan.
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted October 24, 2007 03:47 PM |
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Seems that you're right, that map is not comfirmed as the official one.
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Moonlith
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
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posted October 24, 2007 04:32 PM |
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Edited by Moonlith at 16:32, 24 Oct 2007.
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It would be usefull if those who have various and detailed maps would actually scan them and post them 
*edit* *does a w00t call for having 4 yellowy stars!*
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 24, 2007 04:34 PM |
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guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted October 24, 2007 05:10 PM |
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Look at the globe of the world with Ashan. There is Palaedra
Wonder what this means?
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted October 24, 2007 09:06 PM |
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Hmm? When ever i see this map, I think of Dark Messiah when that crazy lightbeam comes out in the last cutscene.. and then I think its an explosion that changes the world!
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
lead. Don't walk in front of me;
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beside me and be my friend.
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skullman
Famous Hero
banned
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posted October 24, 2007 10:59 PM |
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Were is Sheagoh
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 25, 2007 12:20 AM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 00:37, 25 Oct 2007.
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Jeez guys, can't you read the posts above about the map? I'm not repeating myself nine times over.  And please kindly stop quoting the entire map.
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted October 25, 2007 05:21 AM |
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Sheogh is in the planet's core... It's an infernal prison.
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There's nothing worse than seeing a fat man weep...
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Moonlith
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
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posted October 25, 2007 09:17 AM |
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Edited by Moonlith at 09:19, 25 Oct 2007.
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Well then now I am confused O.o
Hm, guess it fits your map a bit... But why make two versions of this I wonder.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted October 25, 2007 11:41 AM |
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the first map is something from a loooong time ago, and it's not valid; only the second one counts as the Ashan map; so it was said in an interview
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Duncan
Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
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posted October 25, 2007 01:05 PM |
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The map that Cep posted is a beta map (thought by CD as future map), designed by Nival for H5, then Ubisoft said no, don't carry too many things from the older H4, so they finally came up with the one Moonlith posted.
If I'm wrong, then I must be more confused than any of you guys. If I'm right, please stop pissing off Cepheus and do not derail this confusion any further 
@emilsn: I think of our world map being twisted, with Irrolan = West Europe, Griffin = Eastern Europe. My country is below Hashima and Nariya, whereever or whatever that is.
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But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 25, 2007 01:33 PM |
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You're very right Duncan. I'm not pissed as such, but the information is just above the map, kind of hard to miss...
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SS
Known Hero
Strike first, Strike Hard
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posted October 27, 2007 02:50 AM |
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The map that Cep posted is a beta map (thought by CD as future map), designed by Nival for H5, then Ubisoft said no, don't carry too many things from the older H4, so they finally came up with the one Moonlith posted.
If I'm wrong, then I must be more confused than any of you guys. If I'm right, please stop pissing off Cepheus and do not derail this confusion any further
@emilsn: I think of our world map being twisted, with Irrolan = West Europe, Griffin = Eastern Europe. My country is below Hashima and Nariya, whereever or whatever that is.
I think you are right. since we know how brilliantly did Heroes IV performed the ubisoft does not want to bring any thoughts or 'good memories' from it.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 27, 2007 02:52 AM |
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I'll have you know that the campaigns were amongst the best in heroes whether most people liked the game or not.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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