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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 19, 2002 03:48 PM |
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Yes, Tazar and Alkin are good. But for small maps, I think that the best choice would be Bron for his starting basilisks. In this case, you can quickly collect all the resources around and gain control of some useful mines.
LOL, you really have no idea what you are talking about do you? Do you even know how Tazar def speciality works? because it sure doesnt seem that way. Personally id say its the other way around: Bron is best for small maps because extra basilisks. Tazar is one of the best heroes there is, and since his spec. is depending on his lvl id say the bigger map the better.
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Motorschaaf
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posted May 19, 2002 11:18 PM |
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Fortress and stronghold got nice units but :
units dont matter !!! lvl 5 guild with implo or dim door is all what counts . who needs creatures - magic ruels !!
noone can beat alagar and his ice bolt !!
Mageschaaf
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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 19, 2002 11:40 PM |
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OH YEAH!?!
My mighty Solmyr will kick your sissy alagar any day! Solmyr is tha man! I dont even need any other heroes when i have him. I just get mysticism with him fast so i dont have to wait so many days to get my spell points back, thats my secret solmyr trick!
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The_Gootch
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posted May 20, 2002 04:22 AM |
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Hardee hardee har-har! I'm convinced that the two of you are wasting your talents on the rest of us.
You two should go on the road with your act-- a regular friggin' Abbott & Costello.
It's not enough that you tohers lay waste to your page, but you have to come on over and dis everyone else at another--all the while complaining about what drivel the non-tohers post.
Yer a real dynamic duo... a simpering, sniveling, soccer-loving Swede and a greasy, grimy, grotesquely elitist gerry. You should change your name to getalifeschaff.
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andiangelsla...
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posted May 20, 2002 04:34 AM |
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oh snow, our schoolyard bully is pissed 
no more tossing from now on, hes dangerous!!!
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The_Gootch
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posted May 20, 2002 04:50 AM |
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You want some of this good stuff Andi?
Because I've got more than enough love to spread around.
You toh jerkos, for all of your high-mindedness, have an unprecedented amount of nastiness floating around your pages.
You would do well to clean up your side of the house before you come over to cram your crap down our collective throats.
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Thunder
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posted May 20, 2002 03:56 PM |
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Quote: Personally id say its the other way around: Bron is best for small maps because extra basilisks.
You said just how he said Stiven. You didn't correct anything, you said the same thing! Or I can't speak/write/read english.
There's nothing wrong playing with magic heroes so long as the hit and run is allowed, certain anti-magic artifacts aren't behind every corner and certain spells aren't banned.
What comes to Solmyr, he's the best hit and run hero. He's only in wrong town.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 20, 2002 04:08 PM |
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Gootchie, if you dont like it dont read it. Its as simple as that. No one is forcing you to do it, its all down to you. There is one thing i dont understand tho, if you get so pissed at us fighting in TOH section and you dont like our tossing...why start calling us names for it? why not just tell us that in a proper way? You wanna know what i think? You like this fighting/tossing just as much as we do but you aint got the guts to stand for it so you try to make some kind of a "anti fighting crusade" so your cause to fight will look better.
Thunder, yepp youre right. I understood it wrong first time i read it.
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thunderknight
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posted May 21, 2002 06:57 AM |
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Why stronghold/fortress are great in multi ?
- small maps favour early offense >> stronghold and ppl like small/medium map in multi for quick game and quick excitement. Also in smaller maps, game ended before you got your lv4 guild.
- barb/beastman are hero classes with the least pre-requisites for success due to offense & armourer speciality. Magic heroes rely on right spells and also initiatives to rule the battles.
- ban of hit & run in some multi games, but banning of offense/armorer is very rare or maybe nearly impossible. (correct me if not  )
- popularities of anti-magic arti like red orb/recanter in multi maps
- teleported/blessed moos/hydra = lv7 killers but they will never make it if used by AI (at least I can wipe out AI moos and hydras before they make it )
Well, as I have very few multi exp. so maybe it's just my wrong biased guess.
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The_Gootch
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posted May 22, 2002 06:55 PM |
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Look here Sir_Steven, I've got no problem with wars of words. I never said that I don't like it. Gutless, did you just call me gutless?
I have taken both sides to task for their idiocy.
My problem with you tohers(some of you at least), is that you decry the library and other forums for the stupid advice you see floating around.
Instead of correcting these young'uns, you mock them. Instead of taking the time to give your hard-fought and hard-won wisdom to these newcomers and the rest of HC, you prefer to insult them--laughing because they don't understand what you're really doing.
That is what pisses me off.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 22, 2002 11:28 PM |
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Well since it seems you think you know me enough to judge me about this matter a few things come to my mind.
You say it like all i do is mocking noobs, i wont hide that i like to toss around with ppl but that does not only mean newbies. And if you are going to judge me pls take a look at more threads than just one, that way youŽll see that ive actually done some of that "sharing" aswell.
And when i "mock" these newbies i never go personal, i just talk like i did a few posts earlier and if there is any misunderstandings at all i am the first to apologize. I guess i could go on and do some accusations of you now, but i wont since thats not my kind of game. I just toss around, thats it.
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andiangelsla...
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posted May 23, 2002 09:33 PM |
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blah, gootch u start acting like a good knight more than a schoolyard bully...we just make some jokes thats all.
and if you feel like getting your castle ass kicked by stronghold or fortress...anytime man
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Aculias
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posted May 28, 2002 09:30 AM |
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Only in a rush map is Solmyr Good & I proved enough times that Fortress is a dangerous castle I will kick Solmyrs butt.
but Spells can be a pain in thy butt if I cant counter them lol
Same with Stronghold
On a random can be fun there are many ways to make a hero powerful 7 even turn Tazar to a powerful wizard also.
Shoot I beat a nec with Fortress had some great spells.
I like Gootch he expresses his opinions thy way he feels is right.
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posted December 02, 2004 02:42 PM |
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OK, i play for StrongHold and it rocks!
And secondly there ARE NO bad towns, only bad players, nuuf said...
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Shenjairo
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posted December 02, 2004 04:10 PM |
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Weird post to revive! Although all towns has its good sides, there aren't too many that has inferno as their favorite town. Tower isn't all that good either on smaller maps, both of those need rather large maps to work but tower would be a lot more fun at least than inferno. Even if they were better I probably wouldn't play them unless I had to, demonic creatures has no charm. The only thing I like about them is the skill choices for Demoniacs.
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solo
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posted December 02, 2004 04:44 PM |
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I wasnt trying to revive just browsed the table of contets and stumbled upon this thread, which has insulted my favorite town
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csarmi
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posted December 02, 2004 05:11 PM |
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Edited By: csarmi on 2 Dec 2004
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... and now insults mine so I flow into the conversation too.
Inferno is great.
Efreets.
Deamons.
High damage per hp ratio.
Nuff said.
oh
and about attack/defense
I think that playing against the map usually prefers attack skill, since you can time your attacks well and the AI controlled neutrals cannot.
Between humans those just balance each other out.
What I do find funny is Crag Hack and Tazar heroes.
Crah Hack usually has high attack skill AND offense which work against each other.
The same with Tazar.
I'd like to play Trag Hack: high attack skill and armorer specialty :-)
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Lord_Woock
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posted December 02, 2004 05:36 PM |
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Actually, high attack doesn't work against offense skill, because high attack increases base damage, which is then increased by an additional 30%. If you see this as a bad thing, then I am confused.
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csarmi
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posted December 02, 2004 06:44 PM |
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Edited By: csarmi on 2 Dec 2004
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You are. You do not seem to know how offense skill works.
Just to give you an idea: unless under extreme conditions (opposing creature has over 100 defense), expert offense skill will always increase the damage of your Ancient Behemoths by 9-15 each. (of course it grows for Crag Hack per level)
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Shenjairo
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posted December 02, 2004 09:00 PM |
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Hah, I knew that would backfire somehow! I too like the efreets, the devils work just fine although they aren't one of the stronger level 7's. Just wish they had a tiny bit more hp. But really, demons is one of the worst level 4's if not the worst. The only other unit in level 4 I hate to fight with is the silver pegasi because they fold like wet napkins when they have actually have to stay and take retaliation, but at least they are fast. Ogre magis aint the most fun to drag around either, but they can take quite a punch.
The reason demons are good is of course the demon farming and anything in good in numbers, so I can agree with that demons can really hurt you. Would rather say it's the pit lord specialty that is good though than the demons. At least a skeleton is a decent creature on their own for being level 1.
The creatures are weak, if you compare them individually (well it's kinda stupid to do that since a town is based on how good of a team it is, but let's say we do) they have no creature that is in the top 3 for their level. The only other town with as weak individual creatures as inferno is fortress, but inferno has no mighty moo's and isn't as easy to build up. Marius, Nymus and Pyre all work as heroes and as I said earlier their skill selection is great. I haven't played much with inferno at all but so far I haven't gotten a bad hero in the end with a demoniac, but none of them is a Tazar.
I have dungeon as my favorite town, and they have strong creatures and good heroes if you don't ban them all, but I wouldn't say they are the best since it greatly depends upon the map, plus they are just a tiny bit too slow and I friggin hate scorpicores.
I just can't really agree that Inferno is great though. A great player can make them good and I'm glad the towns are balanced enough so that all towns has supporters, but if you were to make a huge post where everyone would list how strong they think the towns are I really doubt Inferno could avoid being on the lower half of the list when you tally the votes up.
The above is kinda facts, and kinda just my opinion so don't take it all too seriously. Just never liked demonic creatures in any game or book, they are vewwy ebil! If you want to take cheap shots back at dungeon go ahead, I don't mind About how worthless scorpicores are, the high resource costs for buildings, having to fight with unupgraded harpies, how utterly hideous the skill selection of a warlock can be and anything else I may have forgotten. Malekith which is my avatar for now is kinda blah too, but sometimes I just feel like going on an armageddon spree and do 3k to everything and for that he's the man!
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