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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: HOMM3 AI question -- does it cheat in a minor way?
Thread: HOMM3 AI question -- does it cheat in a minor way? This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 · «PREV
monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2014 08:18 AM

dimension door?

fred79 said:
i have a question, and i think it belongs here. playing era 1.8 + wog, and upon testing/playing one of my maps today, i had green(an opponent) appear from above-ground side, to subterranean, without the use of a portal, whirlpool, or subterranean gate. it just popped up out of nowhere(if i remember correctly, it came from either a cyclops stockpile or a dwarven treasury, but it might have just come out of thin air).

i didn't script anything yet, so it's not on my end. and i certainly didn't change some random object to a portal/gate/whirlpool. so, what gives? anyone else ever see this issue?

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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted October 13, 2014 04:34 PM

from the other side of the map? i don't think so. unless i don't know how to use dimension door properly...

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted October 14, 2014 04:12 PM

Clearly, AI singled you and using black magic to drive you nuts.


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Biobob
Biobob


Famous Hero
the Bobler
posted October 16, 2014 09:38 PM

Probably didn't look closely, just a change of hero or "blind" AI sight...

Greets

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kicferk
kicferk


Known Hero
posted October 17, 2014 12:33 AM

Inferno special building can move you to different level as well, though I doubt it is the case :/

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Mips
Mips

Tavern Dweller
posted November 11, 2015 04:36 PM

Not sure if this is a WoG behaviour, but from what I can tell AI heroes (that are not allied with a player) in a free-for-all game never attack each other in the open.

This leads to weak/scouting heroes grabbing my mines and resources that spawn every week. Also I can't have scouts of my own because they just attack with anything, cast a damage spell and flee.. and on impossible, I can't really afford losing resources and troops this way.
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heroes_player
heroes_player


Known Hero
posted July 22, 2020 10:35 AM

I believe there are few instances where the AI is cheating. One particular example is that the AI seems to prioritize your heroes than other enemy heroes when choosing the target to attack. And sometimes the AI ignores other opponent AI players by choosing not to attack them in sight

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted July 23, 2020 08:58 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 09:38, 23 Jul 2020.

LichKing said:
The first is morale.  I've had times when my hero with +3 or better morale has tried to take a mine and the guardians get morale bonuses almost every attack.  Conversely, I hardly ever get a morale bonus in the same battle.

I'm still convinced AI cheats on this one, have seen it one too many times even when I'm just watching someone else playing (so possibly a little less of a biased observation then if it was just when it happens to me).
What I think it happens is that AI has built in exceptions that will give a moral bonus every three or four turns, if it haven't had one before.
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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted July 24, 2020 01:52 AM

bloodsucker said:

I'm still convinced AI cheats on this one, have seen it one too many times even when I'm just watching someone else playing (so possibly a little less of a biased observation then if it was just when it happens to me).
What I think it happens is that AI has built in exceptions that will give a moral bonus every three or four turns, if it haven't had one before.


AI definetly cheats, but rather it simply knows when it will get morale, and it can use this knowledge as an advantage.

So rather than attacking the most closest player creature, the AI can decide to move instead, get closer to a better target, as it knows it's able to attack it's target in the same turn by receiving a morale.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
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posted July 24, 2020 07:56 AM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 08:29, 24 Jul 2020.

Is it somehow possible to fix this morale "cheat" and does it also cheat with luck?
AI casting Town Portal on cursed ground should also be fixed.

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted July 24, 2020 12:54 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
Is it somehow possible to fix this morale "cheat" and does it also cheat with luck?
AI casting Town Portal on cursed ground should also be fixed.


Good questions, and I don't know the answers. It's quite rare to witness AI cheating with morale to begin with, and I don't really even know how one could even test the AI's ability to "sense" luck.

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Machberet
Machberet


Hired Hero
posted July 28, 2020 01:13 AM

Hourglass said:
bloodsucker said:

I'm still convinced AI cheats on this one, have seen it one too many times even when I'm just watching someone else playing (so possibly a little less of a biased observation then if it was just when it happens to me).
What I think it happens is that AI has built in exceptions that will give a moral bonus every three or four turns, if it haven't had one before.


AI definetly cheats, but rather it simply knows when it will get morale, and it can use this knowledge as an advantage.

So rather than attacking the most closest player creature, the AI can decide to move instead, get closer to a better target, as it knows it's able to attack it's target in the same turn by receiving a morale.


As far as I know, it does not know its morale, this is an illusion and confirmation bias. Its moves are defined by dangers and reachability

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