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Min-Guitsu
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 03, 2008 11:16 PM |
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I was playing Sylvan and had to defend my main castle with my main hero against a pretty weak Dungeon army. Because none of the enemy stacks had great numbers I thought I was being clever by splitting up my 100 arcane archers so I could kill them more easily. Pity I forgot to place them on the battlefield.
A few minuts later I pressed the Quit to Desktop button... 
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xerius
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 03, 2008 11:39 PM |
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Edited by xerius at 23:40, 03 Jul 2008.
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I havent lost to my friends yet and not planning too, its complicated. especially when they team up against me crashing them both together is just to much fun. So i play carefully and make little to no mistakes.
but this is not the point of this thread so Ill share my failure i had recently in campaign, 4th mission in inferno campaign. need to take sylvan city. So i took my time got all mines and stuff crushed few heroes he sent out. got ready and went to get his castle. half way there I notice his hero is getting to my castle. so i think "no problem i just get his castle and win the game". He takes my castle i attack and lose,(i have auto battle) so im like np i can take it manually. i lose again with him having only 3 dragons left. I was like wtf noooo i shoudnt have turned off auto-save feature, wasted like 1 hour to replay whole thing.
edit: also its so painful when i attack with my scout instead of main by accident. happens so often its not even funny any more lol
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted July 04, 2008 11:47 AM |
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Edited by WarLore at 11:48, 04 Jul 2008.
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well,i lost against AI because it found tears of asha  .I use that AI mod wich you can download in modder's workshop.that was so humiliating.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 04, 2008 11:52 AM |
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The AI finding the grail, how worse can things get?  The one time I've seen that happen was in H3 when the AI found the garil on week...2? It did not even have half the obelisks in its region so I have no idea how the heck it managed to do that much less on week 2. The funny thing was that I still won because I captured the town and since it was conflux I had titan's lightning bolt 
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted July 04, 2008 03:04 PM |
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The AI finding the grail, how worse can things get? The one time I've seen that happen was in H3 when the AI found the garil on week...2? It did not even have half the obelisks in its region so I have no idea how the heck it managed to do that much less on week 2. The funny thing was that I still won because I captured the town and since it was conflux I had titan's lightning bolt
i lost only because map primary object was find tears of asha .my stronghold hero was too slow to rusher .first time when i lost against AI.
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del_diablo
Legendary Hero
Manifest
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posted July 04, 2008 03:58 PM |
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The AI finding the grail, how worse can things get? The one time I've seen that happen was in H3 when the AI found the garil on week...2? It did not even have half the obelisks in its region so I have no idea how the heck it managed to do that much less on week 2. The funny thing was that I still won because I captured the town and since it was conflux I had titan's lightning bolt
This happend to me once too once, all you need to find the grail in H3 is to identify the terrain and dig in the midddle of the screen.
I think the same applyes to H5 too.
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted July 04, 2008 04:01 PM |
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The AI "knows" the location of the grail anyway, since it can read it from the data
The fact that it goes for obelisks and tries to be like a human is just an intentional flaw
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del_diablo
Legendary Hero
Manifest
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posted July 04, 2008 04:03 PM |
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The AI "knows" the location of the grail anyway, since it can read it from the data
The fact that it goes for obelisks and tries to be like a human is just an intentional flaw
Hmmm, then H6 needs a certain fix.
The AI should compare the bits of the landscape it uncovered with what it has explored, it is actually possible with the correct script.
It should also attempt to dig where that migth be 
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Galev
Famous Hero
Galiv :D
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posted July 04, 2008 10:23 PM |
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he-he
I'm new to Heroes V practice. I'm all that smart in it's theory -hung around here and AoE that many times But so practice is not quite like theory:
I was playing a single map where you must beat Laszlo with Maahir and find some artifacts. I realized that I'm all lone on the small island. I did creeping very slow and did many minpor mistakes -wasting movement points and troops etc. But so I managed to have what I thought was a nice army with titans and with a wizards mana and summon creatures at hand... So I went to the dungeons. Feeling great and beating all the neutrals. then I saw Laszlo getting close to the exit near my town. "Aha, so I went in the wrong direction, but I'll beat him then now. <next turn> "Hey, lucky, he is coming this way. Ha-ha, I will show him!"
Oh yes. I forgot that I did not have enough skill in summoning when at the castle so I had no conjure phoenix. To be honest: it turned out I had no useful spells at all. Such shame. Anyways it wouldn't be that ludicurous if only that. But I was thaught what 2k skeleton archers mean... It means: Slow humiliating defeat.
On other story:
Here we are, inferno campaign map 2. I walk in a pleasurable peace, pick up artifacts, killing neutrals, getting to the upgrading tower. And being told that I lost. I misunderstood the goals and missed that it was some kind of race to the humans
But what really is beggarly ridiculous about the same map:
Okay, I had a save near the end of the road -lucky. I rushed too fast, but even like this the enemy was only 2-3 steps from the humans. I attacked and realized they had only few angels. But after getting confident that now I may walk to the crypt and have that "heart of the griffin" or what, the other demonlord attacked me. It was very hard and very narrow. He had more troops, but not much more. I made stupid mistakes. If I gated succubi at first, I would won because at the end there were about 1 succubus and 10 horned demons with me. And about 10 demons with the enemy. Oh and he had 4 summoned pit lords (the upgraded, I'm not sure about name...) So I dead. But despite the fact my hero lost the battle, I won the map Is this normal or it's a bug?
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted July 04, 2008 10:49 PM |
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No, it's normal, since you won the race anyways.
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xerius
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 05, 2008 12:12 AM |
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in heroes 3 I seen many times AI digging 10th of holes not finding it.
guess thats the trick to fool me.
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Zenithale
Promising
Famous Hero
Zen Mind
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posted July 07, 2008 12:29 AM |
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Im not already defeated since the game is not finished...but...watch my greaaaaaaat hero:
Alastor level 20 without Dark or Destructive magic! 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 07, 2008 12:52 AM |
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Haha swift mind and expert sorcery without a magic school, this is one of the best yet Back in my noob days I built Jhora without a single magic school but accidentally because I kept getting new skills until I closed the final slot  Boy that was humiliating. Funny thing was that I still won the AI no matter how much I tried to sabotage myself.
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Galev
Famous Hero
Galiv :D
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posted July 07, 2008 12:44 PM |
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I still won the AI no matter how much I tried to sabotage myself.
Nothing can be more frustrating than that.
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Incidence? I think it's cummulative!
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kermit
Known Hero
Soul hunter
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posted July 07, 2008 02:43 PM |
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I still won the AI no matter how much I tried to sabotage myself.
Nothing can be more frustrating than that.
There is... trying hard to win and loosing...
Recently I was trying out a new map with Sinitar to see how fast could I rush it. At the end of first week I had a very decent hero: 10+ sp 90 mp thanks to intelligence, fireball spell, slippers... seeing that I was low on mana I decided to end the week in castle and build mage guild lvl 4 by the same occasion. Peacefull and quite it was, until a stonghold hero appeared out of dark abyss of the fog of war. Without a second of hesitation he atacked my meager forces of 20 stalkers with his wariors centaurs and goblins. I could do nothing but witness my own downfall. The 7 mp I had left was barely enough to cast a stone spike, it hurt but he still had a good amount of wariors on the battlefield. In a last desperate attempt I rushed my invisible stalkers in the midst of his ranks only to see them effortlesly crushed by the superior enemy. A bitter defeat
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carcity
Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
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posted July 07, 2008 08:25 PM |
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Haha swift mind and expert sorcery without a magic school, this is one of the best yet Back in my noob days I built Jhora without a single magic school but accidentally because I kept getting new skills until I closed the final slot Boy that was humiliating. Funny thing was that I still won the AI no matter how much I tried to sabotage myself.
If you really want to loose in a really noone-humiliating way you could wait until you get close to the AI and then delete all your creatures but one and watch him chase you to your castle and then try to win
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 07, 2008 08:55 PM |
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zenithale : not worst than my friend who chose nathir, got expert destructive and realised at level 14 that he only had 2 spellpower points.
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Zenithale
Promising
Famous Hero
Zen Mind
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posted July 07, 2008 09:45 PM |
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zenithale : not worst than my friend who chose nathir, got expert destructive and realised at level 14 that he only had 2 spellpower points.
I'm actually playing on a map with a lot of tier 3 dwellings and 2 castles...against Sylve (human player, not AI) . Thus I NEED Dark magic + Master of Mind.
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted July 07, 2008 11:11 PM |
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i remember when i made really dumb mistakes playing this game...
there was this one time that i attacked a random group of 8 genies. they decided to join me. i was so happy i immediately clicked yes!
i forgot to look at the bottom where it said they wanted 10800 gold!!! needless to say, that bankrupted me. what was even worse was that it was day 7 and i didn't check the tavern for defeated heroes.
and guess what? lo and behold a high level hero available for hire. of course i couldn't scrounge up enough money to hire anyone. this one mistake cost me the game(deservedly so!)
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 07, 2008 11:34 PM |
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zenithale : not worst than my friend who chose nathir, got expert destructive and realised at level 14 that he only had 2 spellpower points.
I'm actually playing on a map with a lot of tier 3 dwellings and 2 castles...against Sylve (human player, not AI) . Thus I NEED Dark magic + Master of Mind.
if he only has one stacks of arcane archers, you can still confuse half of them, which will result in only 90% of your levels 7 being killed when they will shoot instead of 100% (or maybe 100% of your levels 7 and 90% of your levels 6 if he has wingaal)
or maybe you planned to use mass slow first?
actually I'm more skilled in building imba sylvan heroes for duel mode than defeating them, except maybe with imba dwarf heroes
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