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Adrius
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posted June 11, 2008 08:04 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 20:10, 11 Jun 2008.
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Maybe... But the way he said it is so childish that it doesn't even make me angry.
It's weird, I didn't expect this kind of response from members. It won't make me back down in any way though, I love my faction and I put a lot of time into it.
Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, I am a bit angry. Nearly nobody has even commented my creatures' skills and abilities, or made any criticism about the heroes or alchemy system. Your only concern seems to be the race, what if you just ignore it for a second and check out everything else too?
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mvassilev
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posted June 11, 2008 08:07 PM |
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Cepheus
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posted June 11, 2008 08:11 PM |
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eh, bill sorta has a point
Second account? Just curious.
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Adrius
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Stand and fight!
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posted June 11, 2008 08:12 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 20:14, 11 Jun 2008.
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@mvassilev: Thanks, I really need some cheering up now 
@Cepheus: Yeah, I thought about that too, kinda useless way to get attention don't ya think...?
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Darkshadow
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Cerise Princess
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posted June 11, 2008 08:18 PM |
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Hey kid, go back to runescape, we don't want your kind around here 
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Golemcrafter
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posted June 11, 2008 08:21 PM |
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Maybe... But the way he said it is so childish that it doesn't even make me angry.
It's weird, I didn't expect this kind of response from members. It won't make me back down in any way though, I love my faction and I put a lot of time into it.
Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, I am a bit angry. Nearly nobody has even commented my creatures' skills and abilities, or made any criticism about the heroes or alchemy system. Your only concern seems to be the race, what if you just ignore it for a second and check out everything else too?
Don't be, Adrius!
Although your fraction is based on a small group of creatures (here, imps and not f.e.: human or elf or dwarven creatures), I really like your idea within the creature descriptions, their abilities and the heroes! An other argument, that this fraction could work, that imps can have a different appearance: smaller imp, bigger imp, muscular imp, with different kind af armour, weapon and movement.
The racial ability seems like the Artificer ability by Academy, but still orginal... I like it, doing something with potions is really nice!
I see, that you invented some new creature names, which makes your fraction more orginal and more different from simple imps, which is good! I would like to see a good background story from you, if you have time and fantasy to wite one... no matter if it's short or long!
Way to go, Adrius! Good luck on ending your fraction!
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Adrius
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posted June 11, 2008 08:25 PM |
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Now there's the sort of comments I like to see!! 
Yeah, I'll do my best about the story, I'd like to go deeper with more about their religion and culture, I'll be on it soon.
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Golemcrafter
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posted June 11, 2008 08:29 PM |
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Now there's the sort of comments I like to see!!
Yeah, I'll do my best about the story, I'd like to go deeper with more about their religion and culture, I'll be on it soon.
And I did't have lied!
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Lexxan
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posted June 11, 2008 08:33 PM |
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Well,
I must say that the idea of an looked rather boring and one-dimensional. However, I must admit that I was wrong: you solved the lack of versatility quite well, making the race similar to Fortress. It's a very original idea of creating a faction from just one creature that no-one would us for this purpose. I works very well.
But I think you should've kept a bit longer in the closet, at least untill ICTC4.
Still an aimable project;
Good job
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GenieLord
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posted June 11, 2008 08:35 PM |
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When I only looked at the title of the thread, I was thinking "Why Imps?" The choise of the concept is really weird. We've never even considered the Imps as a race.
BUT after reading a bit, I think that the work itself is good. I would change the names a bit, use the word "Imp" on them less, invent more abilities and use less exisiting ones (this is not modding! ), and other small fixes to make the work better.
The problem is, that you already started with the Imps concept, and I don't think you can get something out of it. The only idea that comes up in my mind to develop this work, is to take the good creatures and ideas that you have here, and to "saw" them on a different race.
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Adrius
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Stand and fight!
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posted June 11, 2008 08:39 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 20:42, 11 Jun 2008.
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Hmm... Yeah, I kept the Imp word in most of the creatures' names to remind people about the fact that they are Imps, names like "Shaveil" doesn't really describe the unit.
Also, I don't really understand what you mean by "get something out of it", since it's so original, the possibilities should be endless, right?
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zazu1
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Makes Sense
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posted June 11, 2008 09:21 PM |
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Well, i just have to say im surprised that so many people like the idea of having imps. Personally, I despise the idea of races instead of factions. I thought that heroes 5 took the races a bit too far, but I play it because I think the racial abilities and all the creauture abilities and superior graphics make it just a bit better than heroes 3. Whether this imp castle is original or not I think that is not very creative at all, and not a fun castle to play. Anyone can take a mythical creature and make it into 7. The one thing I thought good that came out of heroes 4 was the concept of LIFE -> NATURE -> CHAOS -> DEATH -> ORDER -> LIFE, with MIGHT in the middle. I think that all castles should be built around this model.
On the positive side, after reading more throughly I do like some of the ideas like the abilities and racial abilities are neat. I do think they fit well. Sadly, for me, if this is what heroes 6 is gonna be, each castles be one mythical creature like your imps or heroes 5 fortress than the heroes series is ending for me. I tend to repeat myself alot about this when I post on these forums in all efforts to prevent this cus heroes is one of my favorite games and I've been playing since like age 5.
"And yeah, most of them are Impish, but nearly all creatures in Haven are humanoid, so why can't my faction be the same?"
O yea and this quote has been said many times. Haven is fine the way it is because it is not as much of a human castles as it is a medieval, Christian, light and holy castles. I mean if there was something above angel it would Jesus? or GOD? lol like a spotlight on the battle field.
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emilsn
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posted June 11, 2008 11:06 PM |
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Adrius!
those Cairhlev something are they ogres? or what? It confuses me a lot.. ? If so, why that new weird name(no offense)
and alchemy, a non-used theme that doesn't get used that much in RP games(atleast not those I play) and you even give it a story, by making potions called after those first 2 imps - I can see you have though about this, that is why this faction, even though it lacks of credibility, it is original!
Adrius!
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Lord_of_Chaos
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posted June 11, 2008 11:09 PM |
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What people dont realize is that Adrius isn't talking about or referring to the Inferno imps. His faction is based on his own creatures that he created, but he is only calling them imps because they resemble what imps are in mythology.
Those who are calling this faction unoriginal are simply looking at the surface. If you actually took the time to read everything that was writen about the faction, you would see that each of the units are quite diffent from one another and that some very amazing creature combinations can be made.
The entire idea of potions and alchemy instead of magic is an excellent idea. How can you possibly say that it's unoriginal when 7 of the 8 factions in H5 use magic?
Keep at it Adrius. Although this may not become a real faction, you definatly have the right attitude for creating towns and I look forward to seeing others made by you.
Btw, are there any other units you'd like some concept art done for?
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zazu1
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posted June 12, 2008 02:17 AM |
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Edited by zazu1 at 02:23, 12 Jun 2008.
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I forgot to mention in my previous post that your alchemy and use of potions idea is great and anything but unoriginal. It is a great alternative to magic that an nonmagical castle could use. I would love to see that used for a castle. It does fit your imp ideals. I completely understand that these aren't meant to the inferno imps and I know what imps are meant to be in mythology. I just think that a castle should be based on a theme that different mythical units share, and they don't have to be from the same mythology. I know people say that your creative because you made them up but all you did was create different versions of the same creature. I do think your alchemy idea is very smart, I probably couldn't have thought of something like that. My ideal castle (if you wanted a bit of racial theme) would have at most 2 humanoids of the same race, maybe one caster and one ground, or something of that nature. Maybe you could stick with your theme and find other creatures like imps that are much different but fit the same lifestyle as imps. I defiantly think u have some of the right ideas that could make a castle.
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alcibiades
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of Gold Dragons
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posted June 12, 2008 09:36 AM |
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A bit of cleaning in this thread and others done today. Some excessive spam and use of multiple accounts here, please refrain from such behavior, penalties will be applied, accounts silenced and posts deleted.
To the rest of you, sorry for the late intervention. My computer at home is broken, so I can only check in from work. Will try to keep an eye on this.
~ End of rant ~
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ADrius
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posted June 12, 2008 10:28 AM |
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Adrius!
those Cairhlev something are they ogres? or what? It confuses me a lot.. ? If so, why that new weird name(no offense)
The Caehvlir is an ancient ogre, the ones in Ashan are just degenerate versions of the Caehvlir. The reason for the name is that the Imps use their own language, and therefor have unique names for their creatures. I did make a normal name for some of the basic versions, like grenadier and blocker, just so people deosn't get confused.
The blocker upgrade Bokveil is my favourite unit in my whole faction, I created it having the High iniative, High speed units in mind. You start a battle, place your unit and notice that those damn paladins are going to slaughter your rangers!! That's easy, just send those Bokveils to block their way
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Adrius
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posted June 12, 2008 11:13 AM |
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Edited by Adrius at 11:40, 12 Jun 2008.
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@Lord_of_Chaos: Please do! If you have time, I'd love to see your version of the Rabid Devourer, think of it as a small, more animal like Caehvlir. Remember to make the tongue hang from its mouth and don't forget the drool!
Or any other creature of course, I appreciate your support
Oh, and you mentioned making a new version of the Caehvlir, give him more armor and give him him straps across his chest and back that holds the hut in place. And about making a high technological hut, just paint it black and have the roof made in metal or something, don't forget the balcony for the hero.
Wow, that's alot of instructions... You may ofcourse add or remove things if you wish. Might be a bit hard to get all the details
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Card_Ximinez
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posted June 12, 2008 06:11 PM |
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This faction is great! Excellent work Adrius.
My fave creature is the Rabid Devourer, I'd like to see it in battle.
About the first tier, I'll just have to say that I don't really like the idea of guns in HoMM. If you have another idea, please use it.
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wtf this still exists
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Adrius
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posted June 12, 2008 07:15 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 19:17, 12 Jun 2008.
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You might actually be right, and since it's the only creature that fires bullets it's easy to change. The problem is that I want to keep the name and appearance and change the weapon... Hmm..
Now I got it! I'll give the Ranger a steam-fueled crossbow, Van Helsing style! 
Oh yeah, and I just added the Imps' Background story, I even created an explanation to why Inferno has an Imp creature
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