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JoonasTo
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posted April 25, 2012 07:51 PM |
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Edited by JoonasTo at 19:51, 25 Apr 2012.
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So, it supposed to be kind of friendly spar(no permanent damage). After the first few seconds I paused and told him to hit me back.(while he recovered and tried to get some air into his lungs again) Even after some demonstration the other way around he still refused so I went and got my gloves to even it out at least a bit. We did also have shoes so I didn't want to kick him that much, also, no elbows.(not that I was too keen on getting close to him anyways) In the coming moments of "Dude, you're backing into a wall/bush/tree/bench again, do you pay no attention to your surroundings?" we did gain some insight though.
He really needs to stop running and start looking at where he's running.
Elvin's "distraction" low kicks are too weak, you need to put some power into them to get anywhere.
It is foolish to try and catch someone's arms while he is hitting you. (I told him this already in the beginning)
He gets distracted easily by weird things in his vision, I only needed to wave my fist while inching closer in order to hook him in the eye.(It did heal okay, right?)
I have a tendency to expect a knee when someone kicks me from close, ergo, I move my hands to defend.
When someone is punching you randomly, your taisabaki sucks. (Knew this one already)
Probably was more but don't remember. Then we moved on towards more specific exercises. I gave him a few hitting lessons, he didn't much like them. Too peaceful guy. So we moved on to kicking, this time he was much more receptive to them.
Then we did some practice on kick defense. Round kick, front kick, side kick. Pretty basic stuff, like where you want to be, what you don't want to do, where it hurts, etc.
In a round kick you want to be far or close, not in between(knee hurts too!) If shoes watch out for the tip. Don't try to block, that will just lead into broken bones. Defending by keeping your hands to your body is ok. Targeting the not kicking leg is good for takedowns.
Front kick is easy since it's slow or has slow range.(or is awesome if you're good enough, rare people are though) Just move to the side and you're cool. Just remember that a front kick is always followed by something. It's a setup/closing strike.(unless used as a stopper)
Just don't back away because if it's a thrusting one you'll be watching the field from five meters further away than you were intending to.
Side kick is nasty if it hits but it's rather simple. Just evade to side or back away. Anything works really, closing in too.
In general one thing that he did wrong a lot of the times in the beginning was evading too early which gave me time to correct my aim. This left him in a bad position. No one is going to keep kicking thin air at where you just were.
Then we did some specific direct punch training. It mostly trial and error in where Elvin tried out different things to counter. Didn't really find anything that effective.
I did notice one major problem in his form while trying to do something. He was catching me before he was ready to do his techniques. He also projected his intentions through his catching hand, I could feel his movement through it. Gives me all the time in the world to get out or counter what he's doing.
We also tried some releases from different situations, some of them didn't work for some reason, I blame him being out of practice.
In the end we found out that he'd better run. 
It was an enjoyable experience all together. Next time you come to Finland and take me on my homeground, that time we ditch the shoes though. 
PS. sorry about the tree.
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posted April 25, 2012 08:27 PM |
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HAHAHA I added you better run to my mp3 just before I left for Cyprus!
Yeah, although I wasn't really tense I was too distracted, I am used to having more free space around. Ps when you got my eye it wasn't because I was watching your hand but because I impulsively ducked under instead of trying the 'proper' way Anyway it all comes down to overlooking my taisabaki, spend several months out of the dojo you sort of.. forget them. My distance, the catching, the retreats, giving away my intentions, it all comes down to poor body management. If that is lacking the rest crumbles. And of course my attention being on applying a technique than protecting myself, that is always a bad idea.
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JoonasTo
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posted April 25, 2012 08:49 PM |
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Ah, but I meant you let me get too close to reach you with the hook in the first place. 
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posted April 26, 2012 08:46 AM |
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Edited by VOKIALBG at 13:04, 26 Apr 2012.
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Since fencing is martial art... seems I tried... I'm third-year fencer () now. I'm sabreur, witch mean I fight with a sabre as a weapon. I play for fun. Sometimes I help the new fencers to learn the parries, steps, and some theory. Sadly most play with foil or rapier (epee)...
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posted April 28, 2012 10:21 PM |
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JoonasTo
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posted April 28, 2012 11:45 PM |
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I got to agree.
Great stuff, thanks Ad!
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posted May 02, 2012 08:55 PM |
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I'm all armlocks and chokes nowadays.
More awesome armbar/Juji-Gatame combinations
The 3rd one, the Yoko-Sankakku-Jime combination, is my current favourite ground technique. No one sees it coming, and if they do they often focus too much on the choke and I get to armbar them instead 
Really nice to get a different version with the 2nd technique he showed, can't believe I didn't think of that.
The bicep-locks he shows are just too fricking elegant too 
Illegal in Judo but... yeah awesome anyway. Would be nice to try a different martial art sometime.
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posted May 14, 2012 08:28 AM |
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Ok I'll tell what I know The first is a jiu-jitsu, more than 4,000-year-old species. Other species have a copy of jiu-jitsu. Jiu-jitsu to win all of the species?!. For example, wrestling vs judo. Are the same technique, but no wrestling have constrictions method. Jiu-jitsu teaches wrestling and judo If jiu-jitsu teacher wants. Other species of subclass are only a variation such as BJJ. Their course is shorter than the jiu-jitsu, jiu-jitsu can get the red belt 10 Dan. Jiu-jitsu is a competition ban, as the jiu-jitsu the anomaly. YouTube presentations, eg kung fu vs karate, it's not true, as well jiu-jitsu shows, there can be, when jiu-jitsu teaches kung fu and karate. Hm I do not know jiu-jitsu vs taekwondo. That is why taekwondo is a soldier, who do not wait  Taekwondo can use the passport card, which after a visit request to be stamped. Taekwondo can get 10 Dan, quite a short time. Taekwondo is a favorite species, also in order to help others. Even if taekwondo is thinking that the student is not a black belt, he was not valid. If you would like to become a ninja, ninjutsu is kind But the course will last for 20 years. Everything is crazy and Jackie Chan is funny!
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posted May 16, 2012 11:24 AM |
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Edited by Adrius at 11:24, 16 May 2012.
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It's like you throw your posts through 20 phases of Google Translate before posting them.
Anyway, how do you guys think Jujutsu compares to Judo in terms of roughness? I like being able to go all out when I spar.
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posted May 16, 2012 06:32 PM |
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Who knows, the one thing I know is that jujutsu is good at dismantling people with minimal use of strength  But I would indeed be curious to see how it compares to judo or aikido for that matter, at least on a matter of specifics. I plan to get a few lessons on it soon, just for the taste.
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posted May 16, 2012 06:34 PM |
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Try BJJ too It's pretty good in a 1v1 sport fight. Actually, damn good. A very solid base for MMA even. You'd kick Joonas' butt in no time with a year or two of BJJ
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posted May 16, 2012 06:43 PM |
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Where's the fun in that? I have promised myself to own him with my aikido skills! And I will too, just you wait. In the meantime though anything I may pick up is good - especially while I'm still in the army -, an insight on your art can come from anywhere.
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posted May 16, 2012 10:16 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 22:20, 16 May 2012.
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I've read that many of the best Aikido senseis are also Judo black belts, as when their bodies grew too frail for the rough sparring in Judo they turned to Aikido.
Judo brings with it an extremely good sense of leverage and balance-breaking, that is very much applicable to Aikido.
As for Judo vs Jujutsu, it all depends on the individual in the end, but after reading up on the Kano Paradox that Doomforge posted about earlier I can see why Judokas often come out on top.
I'm likely moving in a few months and I've been checking up on what martial arts they offer in the city.
What they offer:
Jeet Kune Do
Ain't even a martial art but whatever. They brag about incorporating all styles and creating a superior form of technique. Might be cool but... feels like training MMA, doesn't feel like a real martial art. Yeah I do care about that, progressing through ranks feels nice.
I also get this feeling that the place is full of retards.
Iaido
Fricking battojutsu quick draw SLICE! Ehh... mostly a mental martial art I imagine. I'd likely grow so restless from not being able to spar that I'd suddenly stab someone. I do have a sword that's classified as a training sword, might show up there sometime and ninja their master.
Jodo
Way of the staff... ehh... still mental training mostly. I train with a Bo now and then just because building momentum with the stick in Figure Eights and stuff is a very fun way to build muscles. Not that interested.
Karate
Traditional, I dunno. If they had like Kyokushin I might've considered it.
Jujutsu
What I have my eyes on currently. I'm in a bit of doubt of how hard they spar or if they just study situations but... yeah will mostly likely try it out.
Aikido
TOO SMOOTH, ADRIUS NEEDS TO SMASH.
No but I do like it, maybe in like 30 years when I'm weak I'll try it (hehe)
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What I REALLY wanna train is actually BJJ. I'm totally newaza focused right now so the groundwork focus would be awesome for me.
Groundwork just feels so much more tactical than standing combat, slowly working my way to a dominant position and stuff... it's like chess.
Too bad they don't have BJJ. ****.
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posted May 16, 2012 10:18 PM |
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Awww, sucks. BJJ is indeed chess-like. It's also - for a contact sport - very "user friendly", you will not have your nose broken by a mistake punch... albeit... watch for your ears!
But if it's not there, consider Judo.
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Adrius
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posted May 16, 2012 10:23 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 22:23, 16 May 2012.
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Well they have Judo too of course, but I've been in this martial art for 12 years now ^^
I wanna get into some of the stuff that's not in Judo... like striking and leglocks. That's why Jujutsu feels a bit attractive, and I would definitely not be completely lost either when I start it, we're so alike after all.
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posted May 16, 2012 11:43 PM |
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Jujutsu is even broader than karate so you can't really speak of it as one uniform MA.
If you find hokytoryu jujutsu just go there, it's got rules akin to kyukushin in spars so at least you get contact.
And karate circles are indeed boring if they are "traditional" japanese karate but original okinawan styles are worth checking out. They're completely different from japanese ones and they even have a few full contact styles.
Even if it's traditional some of the guys might spar though.
I personally hate kyukushin, it's too limiting. I wanna hit them in the head!
And I prefer my everything goes rules with the ground and locks. There's just too much missing if there's no groundwork allowed.
PS. I've beaten a fair bunch of few year BJJ practitioners who thought the same as you DF. Ironically, most of them with a leglock or armbar. Never underestimate your opponent. :G
There was that one guy I kicked in the head too though. That was hilarious. He expected me to come get him on the ground so I just got up and kicked him in the head.
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posted May 17, 2012 12:40 AM |
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Ah yeah there was no information on what kinda Jujutsu style they practice... might give 'em a call on that.
Man I just wanna do groundwork. It's kinda limited in Judo, what's with the time-limit and everything... and we very rarely do sparring that transitions from standing to groundwork, we keep it separated.
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posted May 25, 2012 08:01 PM |
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Had my first jujutsu class the other day, was fun. We tried a few simple defenses to front grabs and chokes which were pretty similar to aikido, which makes me wonder how pure our sensei's aikido is in the first place. I am of course aware that it is derived from jujutsu but our sensei has been known to incorporate in his teachings various things from different masters and he has also trained in karate and jujutsu. In any case, this sensei, seems decent and I like his overall approach, mentioning self defense dos and donts, law, history of the art, the gentle and less gentle ways of getting someone off you and so on I cannot say I gained much from him since I already knew most of what he said or showed but some hands on practice is always good to have and some new tricks more than welcome.
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posted June 09, 2012 01:23 PM |
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posted June 24, 2012 07:11 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 19:16, 24 Jun 2012.
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Seen Keysi? Apparently the martial art that inspired the choreographers for the latest Batman films.
I'm really liking the constant protection of the head and the use of the elbows. Looks pretty badass.
Something tells me that a boxer could just bodyblow the hell out of them and make them lower those hands from their head though...
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