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RedSoxFan3
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posted April 12, 2009 10:49 PM

I think it's more just that there's a massive jump between warrior and veteran. Veteran gets level 2 spells, and a ton of really good equipment.

Overall I think it's fair though. This makes me reconsider mages being far superior. I hadn't realized how much better equipments are for fighers then for mages.
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Ednaguy
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posted April 12, 2009 10:57 PM

But mages also have a huuuge advantage considering resistance. Fighters can be countered by defense and agility, while a mage with different spells can ignore defense or magic resistance as he chooses. Not to mention that agility has no effect whatsoever on mages "/
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Lexxan
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posted April 12, 2009 10:58 PM

Shut up, Edna, the future is to the magi
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Elvin
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posted April 12, 2009 11:04 PM

RSF vs lucky_dwarf!

RSF
Stats
 Health 10
 Attack 1
 Defence 1
 Agility 1
 Initative 3
 Magic Resistance 1
 Spell Power 13
 Mana 2

Lucky_dwarf

Health 12
 Attack 2
 Defence 3
 Agility 5
 Initative 1
 Magic Resistance 3
 Spell Power 4
 Mana 2

Energy Orb
Energy Orb
Fortify
Fortify
Fortify

Energy orb
Energy orb
Energy orb
Fortify
Energy orb
Attack

1)RSF casts energy orb of death, lucky dwarf is toast

Resistance reduction is rounded down like defense right? Either way lucky dwarf would perish in the second action.
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lucky_dwarf
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posted April 12, 2009 11:06 PM

*** i think i chose bad stats everyone will step over me so easy its not even funny
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RedSoxFan3
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posted April 12, 2009 11:11 PM
Edited by RedSoxFan3 at 23:17, 12 Apr 2009.

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But mages also have a huuuge advantage considering resistance. Fighters can be countered by defense and agility, while a mage with different spells can ignore defense or magic resistance as he chooses. Not to mention that agility has no effect whatsoever on mages "/
That's why I proposed adding a 'counterspell' combat ability. Where you can spend a round trying to counter a spell. During this time you have increased spell resistance, and have a chance to make the spell backfire.

Chance to counter the spell = resistance/spell power

After countering, they take damage based on how much mana was required for the spell.

The other issue, I can see is that energy orb of death is only 1 mana.


Anyway, I think I have to finish Lucky Dwarf. I'm goin for the brain symbiote. Gimme that purple baby.

I can't wait until they revive you Lucky. That way I can kill you again.
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Ednaguy
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posted April 12, 2009 11:20 PM

You know you can't cast spells while using symbiote, right?
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RedSoxFan3
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posted April 12, 2009 11:26 PM

Brain symbiote can cast spells. And it's bonuses are much better than any of the spirits.
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lucky_dwarf
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posted April 13, 2009 12:36 AM

"UGH!"lucky_dwarf falls to the ground incinerated by a huge ball of thunder

The pile of dust moves feebly and RSF laughs his *** off at his easy victory.
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Mamgaeater
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posted April 13, 2009 12:53 AM
Edited by Mamgaeater at 00:57, 13 Apr 2009.

Stat change. i don't know if any of the demiurges have noticed how overpowered attack's formula is right now so i'm switching back to a lower attack. not fair to other player imo.

-5 to attack and +5 to health


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lucky_dwarf
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posted April 13, 2009 02:52 AM

damn well then extra healing powers

il just attack my team mates and heal them by 3 points since i would have -3 to attack

and that means i must be ginormous for a dwarf since i got 17 health
but no ones complaining
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RedSoxFan3
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posted April 13, 2009 08:38 AM

Quote:
Stat change. i don't know if any of the demiurges have noticed how overpowered attack's formula is right now so i'm switching back to a lower attack. not fair to other player imo.

-5 to attack and +5 to health


The formula is gonna be changed soon, so that 1 defense removes 1 point of physical damage.
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted April 13, 2009 10:01 AM

Quote:
I can't wait until they revive you Lucky. That way I can kill you again.

I, the lazy God of senseless and fun carnage grant you your wish. Arise, lucky the dwarf, so you can die once again for my amusement!
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RedSoxFan3
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posted April 13, 2009 10:13 AM
Edited by RedSoxFan3 at 10:20, 13 Apr 2009.

So after defense and spells are recalculated to be good, there will be some nice defensive builds that I think will be pretty viable. I'd also strongly recommend adding 'counterspell' as an additional weapon against mages.

Mage Killer

10 hp
4 attack
7 defense
1 initiative
1 spell power
7 resistance
1 mana

This build will work great against the one-shot builds like myself, so long as you can use counterspell. Since I only have 2 mana, and I can't one shot you, so long as you counter one of my spells, you lose. Essentially you'd have about a 70% chance to beat me. And if I start adding points to mana, then my spell power would go down, and I'd need to hit you 3 times.

It would also still work fairly well against a physical attacker, because you don't need agility to hit w/ your fortify. Remember that you'll get +1 attack for getting rage.
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DarkCrystal
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posted April 13, 2009 02:28 PM

Wow, it seems that Carnage has it's life again.

RSF, your ideas are pretty cool. Especially the counterspell, it's like fortify analog, but also nerf casters (Maybe rename it Magic Shield, hmm?).

And I also think that symbiote/spirit system need a bit balansing. Evasion, if you have problems with balanse, ask me and I'll try to help you.
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lucky_dwarf
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posted April 13, 2009 02:34 PM

Lucky_dwarf arises from the pile of ash and dances like a drunk irish man because thats how happy he is.
"Great, now make me a sandwich!"orders Geny out of her HUGE sofa and clicks a giant remote to change the channel on an enormous TV.

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DarkCrystal
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posted April 13, 2009 02:37 PM

Quote:
orders Geny out of her HUGE sofa and clicks a giant remote to change the channel on an enormous TV.
Once again... Hey, Geny is a man.
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lucky_dwarf
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posted April 13, 2009 02:50 PM

im used to writing in feminine for female names dont take it personaly
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted April 13, 2009 03:47 PM

I changed my mind.

*the earth opens up and lucky dwarf falls down into a small pool magma*
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RedSoxFan3
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posted April 13, 2009 03:52 PM
Edited by RedSoxFan3 at 15:53, 13 Apr 2009.

Quote:
I changed my mind.

*the earth opens up and lucky dwarf falls down into a small pool magma*
Noooooooo! I wanted to decapitate him this time.

Oh and you misspelled mamga.
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