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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Creeping challenge!
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


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posted April 17, 2009 10:42 PM bonus applied by Elvin on 14 Jul 2009.
Edited by phoenixreborn at 22:52, 26 Apr 2009.

Creeping challenge!

Alright, there's lots of supposed experts and theorycrafters around these parts.

Show us your skills!

Game version: 3.1, no mods.
Map: War of the Worlds
Difficulty level: Heroic
Faction: Fortress
Challenge: To successfully conquer one AI enemy faster (earliest day) than anyone else on this forum can.
Rules: You must play from red and you must use Inga.
Replays: Save all of your creeping replays and your castle siege and then post them in this thread so I can see how you experts do it!
Reward: The satisfaction of knowing you are a superior player to everyone else on this forum.

Even if you aren't able to complete this goal I'd love to hear some AAR, that is after action reports of how your mission went.

Any takers?

Edit: I added a a couple rules due to feedback but I'm willing to be flexible. You only need to take 1 castle so you don't have the boredom of playing the whole map.

The winner of the first challenge is Zenithale who provided lots of replays and also had a good finishing time.

Edit 2: I posted a second challenge
Creeping challenge number 2
In an effort to help mgph we'll take on the mission he is having trouble with, phoenixes with a might faction. This challenge has two parts, though you may wish to stop after completing the first part.
Map: Disputed Island, blue position.
Difficulty: Hard, this is more likely to be played in an mp match.
Hero: EllaineIrina.  You must use Irina as a main.
Part one: Is simply defeating the phoenixes to get to the middle of the island.
Part two: If you wish to do part two you must set your opponent as Orson of the necromancer faction and defeat red.

Once again we encourage you to save replays so the weaker among us can learn.  I hope that the lower difficulty level will encourage more people to participate. Let me know if I forgot anything.
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Elvin
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Tastes like chicken
posted April 18, 2009 03:11 AM
Edited by Elvin at 03:51, 18 Apr 2009.

I vaguely remember the starting area, I know I've played it before. Slowest building order + heroic + dwarves equals unparalleled boredom and excruciating micromanagement for the first couple of weeks As much as I love dwarves this is an exercise in pure annoyance.
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ChaosDragon
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posted April 18, 2009 04:58 AM
Edited by ChaosDragon at 04:59, 18 Apr 2009.

Just some input for the rules, in War of the World heroic difficulty, green starting position give certain disadvantage for faction like inferno (no easy mode hero, and ofc no war machine), if you like more challenge ofc, if not then don't choose green. If you got druid or mage or druid elder as the guard to the outer teritory (where mercury and sulfur are), then be prepared to hold 4 Com AI (blue, and yellow, orange, forgot the last, maybe purple) coming simultanously in your teritory trying to conquer your castle and kill your best hero in mid-late week 3 (they can come at early week 3 if they got easy mode heroes), long ago (almost a year ago) i've managed to hold 4 AIs thanks to Elemental Wraistband (the water elemental realy help) in this map green position for inferno (mainly because of the challenge), then managed to sneakily capture 2 castle, then in the next 2 month i won. The most boredom event is when you're pinned in your castle because of the threat by simultanous arrival of those AIs.

But more than 3 AI arrive simultanously to conquer your castle rarely happens , unless they got easy mode heroes. Though i never tried fortress in this green position, will probably as hard as inferno (though maybe not the creeping part).

Red starting position is by far one of the easiest, because you still have the opportunity to creep than green, green has the fewest creep, green will mostly outleveled by the others.

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phoenixreborn
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posted April 18, 2009 04:26 PM

I edited with some more rules based on the feedback so far.  I'm willing to change it if you can convince me.

The truth is not many are willing or able to do this.  I don't care if red position is easier, I found it plenty difficult with vampire princes everywhere.

@Elvin, the game is about micromanagement.  That is the point no?
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Zenithale
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posted April 18, 2009 06:06 PM

And where can I download this map, please?
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Azagal
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posted April 18, 2009 06:10 PM
Edited by Azagal at 18:11, 18 Apr 2009.

Heehe... just check out your map folder. Something tells me you already have it.



EDIT: Just in case I wasn't clear enough. It's an UBI map, you get it with the game.
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Zenithale
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posted April 18, 2009 06:15 PM

I don't have an english version so no map named "War of the worlds" or "Guerre des mondes" in french. Maybe "La guerre des galants", a 4 players big map?
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Azagal
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posted April 18, 2009 06:32 PM
Edited by Azagal at 18:34, 18 Apr 2009.

It's an 8 player large map without underground. The picture should be with an Archangel in the bottom right corner and a pond, some gold and a relic in the background.
"Ten years ago the strait dividing the two disappeared after an earthquake. A narrow strip of land appeared in it's place, becoming the arena for never ending battles between the armies of the two worlds: afterall there was no longer anything preventing them from invading their neighbours land."

That's the discription.
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Zenithale
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posted April 18, 2009 06:42 PM

Thanks, probably this one:

French name: "Réunion" ...very nice translation of "War of the worlds"...
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Azagal
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posted April 18, 2009 06:48 PM

Jep that's the one. And yeah no wonder you didn't find it at first with that name lol.
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Zenithale
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posted April 18, 2009 07:46 PM

Can we recruit other heroes in the tavern? If yes I suggest you create a save day 1, after have built the tavern and see what are the heroes (no creature specialists or machinists).
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ebbafan
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posted April 18, 2009 08:02 PM

i know that inga has to be used, but does she have to be the main hero?

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Asheera
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posted April 18, 2009 08:17 PM

You just picked the worst hero for the worst faction at creeping and building, and a hard map on Heroic.

I'm out of course since I can creep only with Dungeon well, and even then I don't think I like such an annoyance in creeping (if I knew how to play Fortress, I mean)
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Arcax
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Its quite hot inside...
posted April 19, 2009 03:08 AM

My creeping so far

The creeping is from week 2 and 3 and the battle with AI from week 4. I think Ill catch his town at week 5. The reps arent great, I was too tired to concentrate enough
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phoenixreborn
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posted April 19, 2009 04:09 AM

Ok, Arcax already started.

I'm willing to change on Inga if you can give me good reasons.  I eliminated Brand and Svea because they are poor and Karli because he is a power hero.  After that I just chose the first name that came to mind, Inga.  How is she the weakest fortress hero?

Yes, you do have to use her, no using a second hero as main.

At the risk of sounding like Jinxer, the purpose of the challenge is that I hear often that the AI sucks and the game is too easy, but that should be true in all situations, not just with Ossir or Haggash on Heritage of Deleb.  That's my point.
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phoenixreborn
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posted April 19, 2009 04:11 AM

Quote:
You just picked the worst hero for the worst faction at creeping and building

I think you are overstating the case.  Would this be a whole lot different with Maeve the knight in the same situation?
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ebbafan
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posted April 19, 2009 05:22 AM

can anyone kindly tell me how to save combat replays? i know how to do it for duels, and i did it before but i forgot...

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Azagal
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posted April 19, 2009 05:37 AM

After a fight you have "Save Replay" in the left corner and "OK" in the right corner. Just push "Save Replay" and name the file.
You can find your replays under My PC/your files/my games/Homam5 TotE/Profiles/name/replays.
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ebbafan
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posted April 19, 2009 04:35 PM

thanks azagal! unfortunately i didn't see this until i finished playing

anyways i played war of the worlds and went for a magic build; didn't know sulfur and gem mines were in enemy territory! totally screwed up my build therefore i only had bears and shieldguards building and level 3 spells rather late. needless to say creeping was rocky, but i took down my haven neighbor end of week 5 and successfully defended against his main hero ultimately eliminating him

god the AI is stoopid lol! if i were more familiar with the map, and haven were not the enemy, i might have been able to beat the enemy early week 4

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Elvin
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posted April 19, 2009 09:19 PM
Edited by Elvin at 22:32, 19 Apr 2009.

Played a bit, at the end of week 1 I am lvl 2 with sorcery. Chose to build spears, defenders, mage guild, town hall and citadel and did not get any mines other than wood and ore. Should get more interesting next week.

Unfortunately building spears meant no bears - lack of 1 wood - so my creeping should be different, I used to creep with blackbears on week 2. I may also opt for priests if I don't get enough crystal soon. Should not affect me badly since I'm going for destructive build.

Edit: Keeps getting better and better. On week 2 I could do nothing, after killing lots of hunters(mercury mine) and whitebears the remaining creeps were lots of brisk raiders(lvl 2 shrine), pack of djinn viziers and lots of battleragers on the way to the crystal mine. I built priests, their horde dwelling and citadel,  skipping bears and brawlers.. Now on week 3 I defeated the battleragers to find that proceeding further I have to defeat lots of treants. Gimme a break!
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