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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: ToH Arena Tournament - Reports and Rankings
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted June 03, 2009 04:26 PM

To avoid any misunderstandings I was joking about valky earlier I basically agree with Towerlord because you often seem to overlook something when you argue one of arena's weaknesses but I still believe Towerlord is easy to dismiss things. Perhaps I am right, perhaps not since he is a specialist on the map but I respect what he says nonetheless.

One of those is extremely high number of tier 1-2 that makes the game biased towards frenzy/vitality and the respective artifacts. Also summoning/destructive seem to be weak compared to light/dark and we never see any warmachine builds. Balance can still be fine but some things are missing. Note that I could say the same about genesis here, it's a matter of preference but some builds seem absent.
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted June 03, 2009 04:41 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 16:56, 03 Jun 2009.

I AGREE!  Genesis is not perfect.. thats why I have made like 10 different updates.. and still WILLING to make more.. I listen to people and add change things to continue to make it better.

In the beginning when I started making maps I thought the same as Tower...

Its my Baby! My masterpeiece.. HOW dare people suggest I change this or that.  But as time went on.. I realized that many different people have far different views and ways of looking at the map. Just because I made the map the WAY I WANTED it to be.. and its PERFECT for ME.. doesnt mean its perfect for the other 100 people playing it..

Thats all I ever suggested in the beginning was to keep and open mind that just because Tower likes the setup and knows a good formula for this setup.. doesnt make it actually a balanced setup. Just keep an open mind and accept suggestions to make it even better.  NOTHING is EVER perfect.. EVERYTHING can ALWAYS be improved.
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natalka
natalka


Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
posted June 03, 2009 04:46 PM

1. When will you learn to write correctly?

2. When I told you that your map is stupid why didn't you delete it?Jinxer, answer those two questions.
Stop offending my friend TowerLord. This map is not created by him but by the people in heroesleague. I think they are much better than you so please ................

They know what to put and whether it is balanced, not you - you don`t know what half of the spells do... You don`t have right to speak at all. Imbalanced is that you were born and your brothers Americans smart as you.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted June 03, 2009 04:48 PM

Drop it natalka you are slowly crossing the line..
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Towerlord
Towerlord


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Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted June 03, 2009 05:54 PM
Edited by Towerlord at 18:00, 03 Jun 2009.

Don't know what triggered you Jinxer, perhaps you don't like advices... or mistakes pointed out, so I'm gonna quit giving them.

Anyway, I didn't state the map is perfect, and actually said that it can be improved , so don't understand this nervous breakdown.

On the other hand, some of Elvin's points are right on spot, like the war machines, but I actually couldn't script that one, the way I wanted to . Destructive on the other hand is not weaker than Light/Dark, it just depends on town, for instance a warlock will never be better with Light than with Destructive. Summoning is a weak magic school for final battle in heroes 5, not only in arena, so you can blame Ubi for that, but it can turn out useful sometimes. Low level numbers are that way, in order to have some balance between levels overall, not to mention that in real game hiring several native heroes can lead to this kind of level 1-2

PS: There is a thread especially made for sugestions and improvements, please add your further comments there , maybe Elvin can move this debate there
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Towerlord
Towerlord


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Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted June 04, 2009 08:51 PM
Edited by Towerlord at 15:11, 07 Jun 2009.

I remind you that there are some important games to be played... I expect those involved to make an effort these days.

List of must-play games:

Strider - Dragoth
Zenithale - Typhys
Zenithale - Jinxer
Felunio - Jinxer
Felunio - Attila
Zilo - Attila
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attila
attila


Known Hero
Young Warrior
posted June 04, 2009 09:11 PM

me and kispagat went 1-1

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted June 04, 2009 09:41 PM

I have tried with Zenth... he is NEVER online when I am... and the one day I did see him and ask to play he told me he was just starting with Zilo lol... woulda thought with our timezone conflicts that Zilo coulda waited but he didnt wanna cancel with Zilo.. so I still keep looking to catch him online.
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DagothGares
DagothGares


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
posted June 05, 2009 07:22 PM

Strider (Academy - Faiz) loses to Dagoth (Haven - Klaus)

replay
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted June 05, 2009 08:23 PM
Edited by Elvin at 20:49, 05 Jun 2009.

Thumbs up

Edit: Dagoth gains Dragon Slayer status.
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Typhys
Typhys


Adventuring Hero
poisonous eye
posted June 05, 2009 08:44 PM

Zenithale is not much often online recently. He told me that he was fond of a game on his console, so that might be the cause he doesn't come these days

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natalka
natalka


Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
posted June 05, 2009 10:04 PM

Very interesting replay.Amazing!!!This Dragon even didn't train and still managed to win.Really cool.Good job Dragon .Keep on the wonderful work. Strider u are so lame...again

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Zilo
Zilo


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Adventuring Hero
posted June 06, 2009 03:55 AM

Zilo-Attila 1-1

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attila
attila


Known Hero
Young Warrior
posted June 06, 2009 04:03 AM

yes game was 1-1 first one was very close 2nd one he destoyed me lol

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DagothGares
DagothGares


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Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
posted June 06, 2009 03:09 PM

Well, strider beat me to a pulp this time

Dagoth (Necropolis - Lucretia) loses Strider (stronghold - Telsek)

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted June 06, 2009 03:22 PM

You should probably have used more vamps, easier to torpor and halt the orc advances. Then there's power of endurance that is crazy combined with damage lowering curses.
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Typhys
Typhys


Adventuring Hero
poisonous eye
posted June 06, 2009 03:45 PM

I finally had my games versus my former master, Zenithale. The outcome is a draw (1 - 1)

First match was Sylvan (Anwen) for him, versus Inferno (Alastor) for me.

I have something rather decent in terms of spells, but I guess Sylvan is really too strong opponent versus Inferno. I had decent stats with 6 spellpower thanks to enlightement, but I had therefore to skip luck. Dunno if that really had any impact anyway ; I could fairly stand before his attacks with advanced défense + 7 def points and mass suffering ; but his unicorn blinding my pit spawns really hurt me, thus, there was no way I get rid of his winddancers.
Not to mention he played without Archers, so just guess how it would be with them...


Second match was my Necropolis (Orson) versus his Orcs (Gorshak).

I took both Necro magic Schools (Summon / Dark) and he took both shatters. I guess he didn't go for attack 'cause of that, therefore barely dealing much damage to me. I was powerful enough to cast decent mental spells anywa, so I could blind his chieftains (he didn't have word of the chief) and puppet his goblins, thus affecting Horde's Anger Damage (wasn't on purpose)... Zombies didn't act a lot, but every hit of them were deadly.

Zenithale will post the replays anyway.

1 - 1

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Zenithale
Zenithale


Promising
Famous Hero
Zen Mind
posted June 06, 2009 03:50 PM

Yes, good job typhys . My Horde anger was pitiful because of Puppet Master.
REPLAYS HERE
Thanks for the games .
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Towerlord
Towerlord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted June 06, 2009 05:27 PM

Finally I finished my tournament games ... with this last game vs Theory :

Towerlord (Dwarfs - Inga) wins Theory (Haven - Irina)

Final result : 2-0.

Thanks for the games everybody and see you in play-offs
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natalka
natalka


Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
posted June 06, 2009 05:33 PM

Congrats Towerlord u have only one draw
I hope I will revenge you in the playoffs

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