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Elvin
Elvin


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posted May 25, 2009 01:17 AM
Edited by Elvin at 01:21, 25 May 2009.

That was a pretty cool idea, flaming ballista with cold steel. I get the feeling Arcax was lucky enough to get the slippers so meteor was back at normal strength. Veco's build could have probably been better with power of speed, on one side the spells were deadly and those annoying matriarchs kept slowing him down.

Second I also liked, Arcax controlled the battle of initiatives nicely. Good thing having shout, easy way to accumulate rage and preserve your forces. Halfway in the battle the orcs seemed in a tight spot as only the earth daughters seemed to be in good shape and they were overzealous too, kept getting morale with their sky high init. Battlerage could have helped but thunderclap certainly paid off, I'd blame the combination of both shout and enlightenment myself. At least I guess he had enlight, too good might stats.

Arcax had crazy knowledge in both games, wonder if gold is a bit too much.
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blizzardboy
blizzardboy


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Nerf Herder
posted May 25, 2009 01:26 AM

Fortress has 53k once they're done buying units as opposed to the 30'ish k of other factions, so they're going to have a good pile of artifacts.

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Arcax
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posted May 25, 2009 01:50 PM

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That was a pretty cool idea, flaming ballista with cold steel. I get the feeling Arcax was lucky enough to get the slippers so meteor was back at normal strength. Veco's build could have probably been better with power of speed, on one side the spells were deadly and those annoying matriarchs kept slowing him down.

Second I also liked, Arcax controlled the battle of initiatives nicely. Good thing having shout, easy way to accumulate rage and preserve your forces. Halfway in the battle the orcs seemed in a tight spot as only the earth daughters seemed to be in good shape and they were overzealous too, kept getting morale with their sky high init. Battlerage could have helped but thunderclap certainly paid off, I'd blame the combination of both shout and enlightenment myself. At least I guess he had enlight, too good might stats.

Arcax had crazy knowledge in both games, wonder if gold is a bit too much.


Correct, I got slippers.

No Enlightment - stats came from Dragon Set and thats an issue I would like to discuss. I only skipped buying tiers 6 and I was able to buy Dragons Armor,Necklace,Shield,Axe of Mountain Lords and even Dwarven Kings Helmet. Kinda imba?

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Elvin
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posted May 25, 2009 02:00 PM

You still have to be lucky enough to get those but it can offer variety to the game as you showed. I have my plans though and with any luck 3rd Edition will see the light of day during next year.
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Arcax
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posted May 25, 2009 02:57 PM
Edited by Arcax at 14:58, 25 May 2009.

umm...yeah... last game with Radar finished

Arcax vs Radar total score 3-0

Haven-Stronghold
I was quite lucky but nevertheless my build was solid.

Last replay

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alcibiades
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of Gold Dragons
posted May 25, 2009 03:50 PM

lol ... last one was not even close. Love the way the Crosbowmen get blessed and then just kill 150 Centaurs in one shot. Obviously Stronghold was very vulnerable to Dark here.
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Elvin
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posted May 25, 2009 06:44 PM

Dark was good but what eventually lost him the game were those crossbowmen, having both bless and RM is sweet. And considering how there were 2 resists in the first mass spell it was probably wise not attempting a puppet.



Here's the full story behind the badge radar earned

Come on bliz, we want to see your games with pera!
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veco
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posted May 25, 2009 10:36 PM

We played 3rd game with Blizzard, turned out to be in my favor
Replay
Please note that by accident we played on dynamic mode so all silly mistakes from both sides will be adressed to that excuse. Although mistakes were fun, dynamic mode puts a bigger disadvantage on the already pressured player, not to mention using Runes requires a bit more thinking.
Anyway thanks for the game
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Arcax
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posted May 26, 2009 09:53 AM
Edited by Arcax at 09:54, 26 May 2009.

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Dark was good but what eventually lost him the game were those crossbowmen, having both bless and RM is sweet. And considering how there were 2 resists in the first mass spell it was probably wise not attempting a puppet.

I know it looked discouraging but it was only 15% of resistance versus 85% success rate

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted May 26, 2009 02:36 PM

About semifinals phase Sq79 and Arcax have an easy pass while radar is disqualified by default. There are two free spots with the remaining players on edge, time to start placing bets

Elvin 3/6
Pera 2/3
Veco 2/5
Blizzardboy 1/3


Since I am at 3 points anyone that hits 4 leaves me behind. Chances are there will be more than one players with 3 points in which case they will fight each other for a place in the next phase. However some players are at disadvantage because they have already lost to their adversaries. Veco has defeated blizzard so if they end up with same points veco is automatically declared the winner, however if veco gets same points as me then I have to challenge him since we have not met in the tournament yet.

In the meantime Arcax may start his games with sq for the semifinals if he so wishes. Give us a match to remember
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blizzardboy
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posted May 26, 2009 10:05 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 22:10, 26 May 2009.

1st game with Pera was his Fortress vs my Academy. He won. I don't have replay.

2nd game with Pera was his Necro vs my Stronghold. He puppeted Executioners on first round and they raped me with nonstop lucks blah blah blah. He should have replay.

3rd game was my Sylvan vs his Necro. I got War Machines + Destructive and good arties but when I went to the mentor to relearn skills to get the imbue it didn't let me relearn anything. I really don't care anymore because that's the one game I was almost guaranteed to win and so naturally the game rapes me from behind. I honestly have no enthusiasm left for this game to do a remake and we didn't autosave that time around. That finishes all of my games. Good riddance.

Pera wins 3-0.
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Elvin
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posted May 26, 2009 10:22 PM
Edited by Elvin at 23:13, 26 May 2009.

That really sucks, I feel your pain At least you would get 2 victories max which would not be enough to get you into semifinals.

Now it's up to veco, if he wins his last match I'll have to play him. Things are gonna get interesting.



Meanwhile here are the replays.

The moment I saw fire dragons in play I knew that pera had rune of dragonform, also I enjoyed seeing a destructive fortress against academy after so long Not easy for dark academy when they face 25% resistance with dwarven luck, that's 43.75% resistance if I'm not mistaken. Worked like clockwork - stun when needed, armour decreasing firewall before units act, rune of charge to strike while defense is still weakened.. That was a doomed match.

Second was also doomed with pera getting swift mind, an-all out charge stronghold is risky by nature. Still kudos to bliz for managing to make good use of maulers against necro, they had some pretty sweet action there Though I did not get what rallying cry was about, you had max morale anyway. If it was for retribution it is capped to 25% at 5 morale. Other than that and maybe charging shamans in harm's way - which didn't turn out that bad, he took the bait and paid for it - it was a good match. Which leadership perks did you have?
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blizzardboy
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posted May 27, 2009 12:16 AM

For some strange reason I thought only luck was capped at 5.

Anyway, I had the typical Swift Aura + Battle Elation. It was probable that he would go dark magic but I'm sick and tired of the guessing game of picking a shatter for stronghold, so I just went all out offense and let the results unwind. I knew who won the moment the game started.  
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Elvin
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posted May 27, 2009 12:23 AM
Edited by Elvin at 00:25, 27 May 2009.

Silly question of me, hadn't noticed the elation rage.. I think that while an all-out attack is the best thing vs necro you had horde's anger so you had less of a reason to try the suicidal units. Empathy could have worked but I'd be afraid of mass slow..

Edit: There, gave you a berserk badge
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sq79
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posted May 28, 2009 05:59 PM

I finished my games with Arcax, it went 2-1 to my favour.

1st game,
Arcax was academy versus my dungeon, he had battle frenzy and bloody claw with 24kn, i was killed after the 2nd cast. A complete slaughter by Arcax

2nd game,
This one typically describes what Elvin wrote
Arcax was necro versus my sylvan
"Guardian Angel - Somehow he manages to escape his fate when all seems lost."
I thought i was losing again, and going to be 2-0 to Arcax it seems. Lack of mass r.might was deadly when you face a mass endurance necro

3rd game
Arcax was academy versus my inferno.
I had orcs set, he went for destructive, but wasn't fast enough to kill me before my all the way morale troops killed his creatures.

Replays
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And thanks for the game, it was fun to play with Arcax as usual

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Elvin
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posted May 28, 2009 11:23 PM
Edited by Elvin at 23:23, 28 May 2009.

First one was hopeless but I still find it hard to imagine that magnetics received 1161 dmg from ignite. Not that I wasn't aware that warlock ignite hurts them but titans received 135 that even with 35% actual protection the figure sounds wrong. Maybe the golems received more due to partially draining the blast from nearby units. What was funny about the replay is that I typically aim for init arties and dash while Arcax managed with slow and more offensive kshatras the same effect Note that the chance for two consecutive lucky attacks was 9%

Second was a game to be remembered. Though there were a few questionable parts, for one I think that mass confusion would be more important than aiming for haste after the endurance. Mark of necromancer also came in too early in the game, arcanes managed to act again before the necromancer.. But what I believe decided the game was Arcax icebolting the dryads instead of the arcanes RIGHT AFTER the druids were dead. Just about 5 would remain and if the ranger tried to resurrect again the next spell would kill them, or if magic immunity was used they'd be hopeless vs fist. Failing to kill them lost Arcax his game confirming the badge I gave him earlier just like Sq proved worthy of his Still painful how one small mistake can give players like Sq the edge.

Last one what can I say, inferno took the game in pure might fashion with weapons of might set. The extra stats showed and so did +2 vitality boost for a max of +4, totally worth it for 10% less initiative. It was funny how the kshatras were hit by chargers but retaliated on titans, I bet Sq knew this would happen. Stats aside no init on kshatras made them a target for seduction but they are generally a risky choice vs dark casters..

Good games. With any luck Arcax will now unleash his rage on veco so I can pass to semifinals


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sq79
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posted May 31, 2009 08:56 AM
Edited by sq79 at 10:09, 31 May 2009.

Finished my games with Pera, it went 2-1 to Pera.
First game dwarfs Pera versus me orcs
Got slaughtered by a dark dwarfs and a unfriendly terrain despite having 24 attack
I was more afraid of mass endurance, ended up saw a mass suffering

2nd game haven Pera versus my dungeon
Incredible luck and morale for haven, with 2 dwarven artie settled the game

3rd game dungeon Pera versus my orcs
Incredible atb for orcs won me this one.

Replays
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I don't have the first replay as i surrendered before it ended

Thanks for the game

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Elvin
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posted May 31, 2009 11:22 AM
Edited by Elvin at 11:59, 31 May 2009.

Pera is sneaky. He has gained himself a new badge, Dark Knight - There is darkness in his heart and more importantly his spellbook



Second game was fun but I'm seriously curious how much at disadvantage haven would be without some destructive protection. Mostly decided by arties but dungeon had insane stats otherwise ~ 15 att/9 def/28 sp. If I'm not mistaken no swift mind.

In the dungeon game, man so much bad luck. I thought the dragons would use incinerate and the hero a nice implosion/deep freeze on executioners - that is the problem with summoning, slows down the action when you'd rather kill orcs asap. Though that phoenix was one fit bird
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sq79
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posted May 31, 2009 12:31 PM

There was 11/15 morale and 9/11 luck strikes in the 2nd game.
2 casts was all dungeon was allowed. Can't do anything about it
+40% magic proof and cloak of sylanna and fire shield. I thought it was resisted initially , but after he told me he had 2 dwarven artie, i noticed he was immue to slow though.

3rd game like he said
I think dungeon needed dark badly against orcs... Although i had the immue to frenzy shield.

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Arcax
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Its quite hot inside...
posted May 31, 2009 12:36 PM

I would be so glad to see the 1st one...

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