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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Whats Better: Vampire lord or Imperial Griffin
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DieDevil
DieDevil


Adventuring Hero
posted April 15, 2010 03:17 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 22:06, 15 Jul 2010.

Poll Question:
Whats Better: Vampire lord or Imperial Griffin

Vampire lord: drains life, possible chance of ressuruction

imperial griffin: battle dive deals x2 damage (especially good on archers, cause they dont move) and flyer

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vampire lord
imperial griffin
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted April 15, 2010 08:06 AM

Griffins all the way. Besides nobody ever picks vampire lords anymore, vampire princes in tote are overpowered since 3.1.
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DieDevil
DieDevil


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posted April 15, 2010 11:50 PM

good

yea thats what i thought~!

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Arcax
Arcax


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Its quite hot inside...
posted April 16, 2010 01:06 AM

Toast it, toast it

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DieDevil
DieDevil


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posted June 07, 2010 02:55 AM

toast it toast IT? well, thanks for the replies!

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Vangelis21
Vangelis21


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Manchild
posted June 07, 2010 07:37 AM

You should correct your questions i think. IN what way do you wish to compare them? From the time that they belong in different factions, then you don't have to get into that coparison. Now, IF it is just an encyclopedic question (without meaning) and you just wish to see which creature is better, then there are a lot of things you should get into cosideration. DOes the necro hero have vampirism? If no, then that's one for griffin. Does the enemy have a good ranged (crossbowmen or arcanes)? Then the griffin will get more damage than the vampire due to the skeleton warriors protection. Also why to compare the GOOD upgrade of griffins, with the BAD upgrade of the Vamps? Compare the GOOD or the BAD ones together.
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted June 07, 2010 12:01 PM

battle griffins are bad?
it's like a flying tank, and doesn't seem to have any really weak spot. and they can buy you quite a bit of time, since the enemy will hesitate to attack them multiple times in a round.
imperial griffins are too easy to kill if you make a mistake.

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Elvin
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posted June 07, 2010 01:37 PM

Battle griffins aren't bad in themselves, it's that haven doesn't really need another tank and one that is slow, esp vs stormwind factions. A pre-emptive morale dive from imperials on the other hand can save your other units from casualties and possibly introduce chaos in the opponent's tactics.
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Vangelis21
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posted June 07, 2010 02:54 PM
Edited by Vangelis21 at 14:58, 07 Jun 2010.

battle griffins are not BAD. They are just WORSE than the imperial ones
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted June 07, 2010 05:10 PM

they are only slow if you compare them with imperial griffins. compared to other tanks they are quick (quicker than treants, golems, squires, pit spawns, hydras, zombies...)

but well, it is maybe the only case where choosing a tank prevents you to buy a fast creature. as if buying pit spawns prevented you to buy nightmares too.

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MageOfDestiny
MageOfDestiny

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posted June 07, 2010 05:47 PM

Having those two compared is like comparing Paris Hilton to Mother Teresa.....good lord...!
The imperial griffin has speed,strenght and fits into havens playstyle wery well(omg that was soo cheezy),though whatch out for treants-they liky to klly griffy...!
Vampire lord are 1.expired since vapire princes apperared+they totally rule,not that i like ncro...
                2.imo nobody pics them because in new necro its all about skellies/wraith,they are just like liches-like them but d.e. can be spend better.
If you want to compare two "really different"monsters that really "leave their mark"in the game,then try the Conscript vs. Red Version Diva comparison,like they are sooo different
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Berny-Mac
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Lord Vader
posted June 08, 2010 01:18 AM

I dunno, I've always liked Vamp lords better than princes because on no retaliation. That allows them to have better survivability since no retaliation activates every single time and torpor works like 50% of the time. As for vamp lords against imp grifs...I'd say that imp grifs are better overall in a battle, but in a battle between the 2, I'd say that vamp lords win.
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Buji
Buji


Known Hero
posted June 08, 2010 02:25 AM

no retaliation is an overrated ability (except creeping) and in the rare case torpor does not trigger, i would rather have my vampires soaking up the retaliation than my wraiths

oh and imperials > vamp lords

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Berny-Mac
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Lord Vader
posted June 08, 2010 10:03 PM

Well I only really use Vampire Princes in the late game, at which point Necropolis is no longer at its height of power.
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atheist
atheist


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posted June 09, 2010 09:01 PM

Vampire Lords of course. wins in direct combat with griffins too.

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DieDevil
DieDevil


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posted June 09, 2010 09:05 PM

battle griffins rush dive i think it was is not as powerful as battledive
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Vangelis21
Vangelis21


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Manchild
posted June 09, 2010 09:34 PM

Quote:
Vampire Lords of course. wins in direct combat with griffins too.

How would they EVER be face to face, one on one? come on! Griffins overall are a lot better! You haven't been studied for the past two years

Quote:
battle griffins rush dive i think it was is not as powerful as battledive


huhuhuhu? in English? In any case: Battle dive and rush dive are completely different abilities. The one has double damage, the other 75% of the normal damage. The one hits a single target, the other multiple. The one can hit your units, the other I am not so sure. it always depends which is better
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted June 10, 2010 12:01 AM

in another hand, you don't pick battle griffins for rush dive, do you?
like you don't pick imperials for unlimited retaliations, since they die in one blow

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zaio-baio
zaio-baio


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Famous Hero
posted June 10, 2010 08:37 PM

imp giffins are imo much more useful

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lumpor
lumpor


Adventuring Hero
posted July 01, 2010 08:37 PM

Vampire lords, love them alot more.

I don't get why everyone hugs princes so much though, people have told me why they like princes more all the time, but torpor has triggered maybe 30% of the time for me, the other times, retaliation goes BOOM
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