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Thread: Final APB for The Gootch [ This thread is 2 pages long: (1) 2 ]
Peacemaker
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posted August 29, 2010 06:00 AM
Edited by Peacemaker at 06:02, 29 Aug 2010.

Final APB for The Gootch

Alright, my friend.

I'm resorting to this forum because I've run out of other options.  I have to get succinct here because I'm running out of time and I suspect for your own reasons you are too.  You have left me no alternatives because I have tried your alternative access contacts and they seem to have been changed or shut down.

Imagine, given what I know about you and you know about me, how distressing your long-term silence might be, despite the fact that I know your communication patterns.  I'm trying to find you because I love you and you already know that.  Even if one knows what to expect, it's still distressing. I apologise in advance using this particular avenue to contact you. I just have nothing left and you're worth the attempt.

There is a huge amount of connection-establishment happening at my end here.  

MY INVITATION:  In two years, you will fly out here and experience the Tenth Circuit Bench & Bar Conference:  BIENNIAL EVENT -- Next conference is in 2012.

Every human on Earth should do this, but you have to be there by invitation or connection, and I will be yours.  

Now, this is what just happpened while I was there this weekend.  Be quiet and read before making up your crowded mind.  For some reason, even though you have expressed no interest in the law so far, I still think of you every time I am there, sitting with the Justices, conversing over lunches, and generally enjoying the company and wisdon of the best among us.

This year's conference ended tonight.  On this particular trip, I had the humbling pleasure of sitting with the newly appointed Supreme Justice Sonia Sotomayor over drinks before doing songs together, meeting and having lunch with the Chief Justice of the Canadian Supreme Court and doing a singalong with her husband the Great Frank, and today, out of sheer luck, ending up having lunch with the Right Honorable Justice Lord Igor Judge (yes, that's really his last name), Supreme Justice of England, after he had delivered a speech embodying one of the most scathing indictments of what has happened to the American political system since the American Revolution.  (In response was one of the most robust standing ovations I have experienced in my lifetime.)

Even if you don't plan on joining me in two years for this ever-expanding event, My Dear Friend, you must at least contact me at my last phone number of your choice and give me the opportunity to either bid you farewell or re-establish contact. Once you let me know, either way is fine.  But I need to be informed in order to proceed according to your wishes.  If I don't hear definitively from you, I will continue to assume that you are not receiving my messages and I will keep trying.  I honestly belive that if you know I am trying to reach you, you will respond.  You simply mean too much to me to assume that silence means leave you alone.  You, my friend, I am afraid, are going to have to tell me, one way or the other, face to face.

I really mean this about the 2012 Bench & Bar.  You might find yourself amazed beyond belief ,and our house, as you already know, is yours.

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The_Gootch
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posted August 31, 2010 02:41 PM

I find it odd that republicans have, well besides sinking even lower than I thought possible, are prattling about removing the 14th amendment?  

Aren't they aware that their corporate paymasters have been trying to sue for rights and privileges of citizenship under that very amendment?  

Now that these corporations have achieved it, it's time they start getting taxed appropriately.  After the sunset on the Bush tax cuts is achieved, it's well nigh time we jack up the upper echelon of wage earners back to their pre-Reagan rates.  70% is a good start.

Btw, it's great to hear from you again.  And hell yes, I'll be there if for no other reason than to try to give Justices Thomas, Scalia, Alito, and Roberts a wedgie before I get arrested.

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Peacemaker
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posted August 31, 2010 03:43 PM
Edited by Peacemaker at 16:03, 31 Aug 2010.

Quote:
I find it odd that republicans have, well besides sinking even lower than I thought possible, are prattling about removing the 14th amendment?  

Aren't they aware that their corporate paymasters have been trying to sue for rights and privileges of citizenship under that very amendment?  

Now that these corporations have achieved it, it's time they start getting taxed appropriately.  After the sunset on the Bush tax cuts is achieved, it's well nigh time we jack up the upper echelon of wage earners back to their pre-Reagan rates.  70% is a good start.

Btw, it's great to hear from you again.  And hell yes, I'll be there if for no other reason than to try to give Justices Thomas, Scalia, Alito, and Roberts a wedgie before I get arrested.


(LOL -- well said, man. Well said.)

So far, among the names you list above, only Alito has appeared at one of the conferences I attended.  We usually have two; this year it was Ginsberg and Sotomayor.  To be honest, it has been a fluke each time that I have gotten to meet any of them.  I happened to be walking down one of the side halls at the Broadmoor (where this event always happens)at the last conference when Alito came sneaking in the remote north-end door with his cadre of Secret Service (you of all people can just imagine how much fun I have with the Secret Service).  Not being a real big fan of Alito, I nonetheless graciously stuck out my hand and welcomed him to Colorado with my most professional demeanor.  Later that night, we all came to realize during the Singalong that his wife is a gifted opera singer.  Imagine this:  Lady Alito, Nina Totenberg (who also has a well-trained opera voice) and I singing "Oklahoma" together at the microphone.

After a while I got bored and went out in the hall to flirt with the Secret Service.  I now have snaps of two of them feigning my arrest lingering around the house someplace.  I'll have to dig those up and send them to you to post.  By the time this conference rolled around, when those guys see me they greet me by saying "Hi, Jo," or "Ma'am, I'm afraid we'll have to confiscate that firearm in your fannypack" (grinning sheepishly).

The next day, Justice Samuel Alito delivered one of the most hysterical speeches I have ever had the pleasure of hearing.  I wish I had it on tape.  His sense of comic timing and delivery is impeccable.  Among the highlights: with as deadpan, erudite and yet humble a countenance as you can imagine on the face of the man, he calmly likened the press to a pack of wild hyenas who, when coming at him one day, had him peering over the railing of the balcony he happened to be standing next to at the moment, seriously debating whether to jump.  I know, you had to be there.  And I wish you had been.  Republicans and Democrats alike were falling off their chairs, rolling in the isles with tears streaming down their faces.  My estimation of him rose considerably after that, probably for the wrong reasons but nonetheless.


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mvassilev
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posted August 31, 2010 06:44 PM

Quote:
Now that these corporations have achieved it, it's time they start getting taxed appropriately.  After the sunset on the Bush tax cuts is achieved, it's well nigh time we jack up the upper echelon of wage earners back to their pre-Reagan rates.  70% is a good start.
Terrible idea.
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The_Gootch
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posted August 31, 2010 07:40 PM

Explain yourself.
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"The trouble with America is
that when the dollar only earns
6 percent over here, then it
gets restless and goes overseas
to get 100 percent. Then the
flag follows the dollar and the
sold... too long to display...

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mvassilev
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posted August 31, 2010 07:48 PM

Higher taxes reduce productivity. If you tax people more, they will work less. Just look at Europe.
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The_Gootch
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posted August 31, 2010 07:57 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 20:03, 31 Aug 2010.

A sensible case for soaking the upper echelons.

You're comparing apples and oranges.  I'm talking about changing tax brackets to include the super stupid rich and not just the meh rich.  

What you're talking about would require a cultural shift in this country.  That isn't going to happen anytime soon.

Edit:  And if you want to pull the godless, heathen, commie socialist card about European productivity, let's take a look at Germany.  Let's take a look at their industries such as health care, banking, and the way they finance education and train their workers.

Even this American will concede these guys are light years ahead of us.

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posted August 31, 2010 08:01 PM

Okay, sure. But it's better to have lower taxes overall. We should be focusing more on reducing spending. That's where the true challenge lies.
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The_Gootch
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posted August 31, 2010 08:21 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 20:21, 31 Aug 2010.

Not going to happen anytime soon without gutting both the official and ancillary military budget.  

We had a rubber stamp congress of Repugnantcans during the Bush years who gave us more of the same supply side nonsense we got during the Reagan years.  These jagoffs blew up the deficit and now they want a chance to do what--give us more of the same failed economic policies?

And since they don't have any good ideas on what to do about the deficit or anything else, they're reaching into their Lee Atwater playbook of fearmongering and paranoia.

It's a beautiful thing really.  They can make their arguments in under five seconds and the time it takes to refute them is longer than the average american television viewer's attention span.

Watch and observe.

Immigration Reform.

Far right Republican argument:  Omg we're getting overrun by brown people!!  They're taking our jobs!  Grab your guns boys and let's defend our borders!

Lib left argument:  You know, if there's an influx of illegal immigrants into this country it has more to do with our economic policies than anything else.  For instance, because of NAFTA and the way we subsidize corn, we put over a million and a half Mexican farmers out of business.  And if you want real immigration reform,  you're going to have to start by hammering the companies that exploit illegal immigrants.  Instead of punishing those who just want to be able to earn a living and take care of their families, you should hammer the companies that hire them.  Those corporations profit in several ways off of the backs of these immigrants.  First, they benefit from paying out a lower wage.  Second, illegal immigrants have no rights.  Therefore, they won't organize to collectively bargain.  Their wages are fairly locked in.  And on top of that, they have noone to go to over unsanitary, unsafe working conditions et al.  *more lib left elitist socialist marxist blather*
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"The trouble with America is
that when the dollar only earns
6 percent over here, then it
gets restless and goes overseas
to get 100 percent. Then the
flag follows the dollar and the
sold... too long to display...

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Corribus
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posted August 31, 2010 08:32 PM
Edited by Corribus at 20:34, 31 Aug 2010.

EDIT: You know what, forget it.  I'm not really interested anymore.

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Peacemaker
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posted August 31, 2010 08:46 PM
Edited by Peacemaker at 20:49, 31 Aug 2010.

What wasthat you said about the average American attention span?

Quote:
EDIT: You know what, forget it.  I'm not really interested anymore.
ROFL

Gootch, I think you just pushed him beyond his five-second, one-sentence limit.


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The_Gootch
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posted August 31, 2010 08:51 PM

Nah.  Corribus is good.  Real good.  

If the Libertarians ever needed a poster child for their cause, they'd dump Rand Paul and draft Joel Salatin.  Now that is a man who's Kool-Aid I'll drink.
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"The trouble with America is
that when the dollar only earns
6 percent over here, then it
gets restless and goes overseas
to get 100 percent. Then the
flag follows the dollar and the
sold... too long to display...

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Corribus
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posted August 31, 2010 09:06 PM

I just reminded myself that I've done that political discussion to death.  I'll save my old and rusty* sword for another battle.

*[But, mind you, still sharp and precise enough to geld a catepillar!]

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Binabik
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posted August 31, 2010 09:34 PM

Quote:
I just reminded myself that I've done that political discussion to death


But it's sooooo tempting isn't it?

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Corribus
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posted August 31, 2010 10:11 PM

oh yes, hence the edit.

But if it's one thing that I've learned in my old(ish) age, it's restraint.  Of course, sometimes that's easily confused indifference, so who knows.

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Binabik
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posted August 31, 2010 11:49 PM

I'm indifferent about restraint being confused with indifference. I'm also indifferent about restraint or indifference being confused with conceding a point by lack of response.

*reads thrice*

I think I said that right. Well, maybe not, but whatever.

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Elodin
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posted September 01, 2010 03:46 AM

Quote:
It's a beautiful thing really.  They can make their arguments in under five seconds and the time it takes to refute them is longer than the average american television viewer's attention span.

Watch and observe.

Immigration Reform.

Far right Republican argument:  Omg we're getting overrun by brown people!!  They're taking our jobs!  Grab your guns boys and let's defend our borders!

Lib left argument:  .....*


Nah, its more like:

Republicans: We need to protect the borders and ensure people come here legally.

Demoncrats: RAAAACCCCCIST!!!

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del_diablo
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posted September 01, 2010 08:11 AM

Elodin: Prove it!
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posted September 01, 2010 08:16 AM

Aaaand there goes the thread.
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Binabik
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posted September 01, 2010 08:21 AM

LMAO

Although I completely agree with Elodin

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