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infinitus
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posted February 10, 2011 11:51 AM |
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I still claim the same thing. In H6 you're as inexperienced as the rest of us.
If i good to drive formula 1 car, i will be good to drive other cars too, right ?
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And MP is not all there is to the game.
For me is all
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kodial79
Promising
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posted February 10, 2011 11:54 AM |
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If i good to drive formula 1 car, i will be good to drive other cars too, right ?
Irrelevant analogy, really. Let me give you another:
You're good aiming with a pistol but are you good aiming with a machine gun? See, totally different things.
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For me is all
And this is why you're not suitable for testing the game.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted February 10, 2011 11:59 AM |
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Irrelevant analogy, really. Let me give you another:
K more close analogy, many pro WC3 players switch now to Starcraft 2, WC3 and Starcraft 2 are different games, still they are good as Starcraft 2 players, maybe not the best but good ...
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kodial79
Promising
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posted February 10, 2011 12:07 PM |
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Irrelevant analogy, really. Let me give you another:
K more close analogy, many pro WC3 players switch now to Starcraft 2, WC3 and Starcraft 2 are different games, still they are good as Starcraft 2 players, maybe not the best but good ...
I never heard of anything like that, so I can't say. But I can tell you for sure that many COD:MW2 players got their arse kicked when they switched over to BFBC2. Both are FPS games and they're way of playing, is very similar. However, they were not as good there.
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infinitus
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posted February 10, 2011 12:22 PM |
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However, they were not as good there.
Not as good, but i assume good enough compared to ordinary players.
K, one more example -
Let's say in H5 was one good option in game, in H6 let's say this option no more exist. Experienced, good H5 player will notice this and will ask developers to bring it back ...
Or was imbalanced option in H5 and it's still remain unchanged in H6, again good H5 player will notice this ...
And if you are multiplayer newbies and have no idea of this options at all in h5, h6 or in any other games existing on this planet... How this testers can help bring balance it this case, if they are blind to see deep tactics etc ...
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kodial79
Promising
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How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted February 10, 2011 12:30 PM |
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However, they were not as good there.
Not as good, but i assume good enough compared to ordinary players.
K, one more example -
Let's say in H5 was one good option in game, in H6 let's say this option no more exist. Experienced, good H5 player will notice this and will ask developers to bring it back ...
Or was imbalanced option in H5 and it's still remain unchanged in H6, again good H5 player will notice this ...
And if you are multiplayer newbies and have no idea of this options at all in h5, h6 or in any other games existing on this planet... How this testers can help bring balance it this case, if they are blind to see deep tactics etc ...
That would be nice but wether an option is good or not, is a subjective opinion. For example, from what I gather many people did not like how Blood Rage and Rune Magic worked. I loved them though and would not want to see them changed. Such options can also be noticed in the SP or Hotseat modes, which I have spent countless hours of playing.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted February 10, 2011 12:58 PM |
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That would be nice but wether an option is good or not, is a subjective opinion.
Some things look more like absolute. For example - RMG h5, two players, 8 towns on map. We generate map and get sometime very unbalanced situation, 1 native town for one player and 5 native towns for another !
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from what I gather many people did not like how Blood Rage and Rune Magic worked. I loved them though and would not want to see them changed.
They are ok to me too ...
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Such options can also be noticed in the SP or Hotseat modes, which I have spent countless hours of playing.
Not bad too, but you will never know how good you are compared to others, if not play games vs real opponents. Also in this case you know only tactics elaborated by you, or from internet. Multiplayer allow to know all existing tactics, humans are much more deadly compared to AI.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted February 10, 2011 04:21 PM |
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No idea why i miss this example in first place ...
Heroes Kingdoms is very different game compared to H5, still ToH Alliance finishes with Strong Win on the Zombie Assembly Server ...
Take a look click here to see TOH alliance stats
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Willis
Known Hero
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posted February 10, 2011 06:42 PM |
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And what makes you great gamers? What makes you better than those that Ubisoft would otherwise choose to beta test the game?
I never said they were great gamers. I'm not a part of ToH, and I know very little about them. That said, I do think certain gamers are more about finding optimal strategies and exploits, and they approach playing games in a much more methodical way than your average gamer. As other people have said, a great Warcraft player will probably get really good at Starcraft if they try it, where someone who just plays games casually probably won't.
Hell, I'll use myself as an example. When I play Starcraft, I just play to have fun and don't really look under the hood much. My friend, on the other hand will figure out what types of damage are good against what types of armor, and will use abilities I don't even know about. He reads the stats of units and figures out the best ways to use them.
edit: So yeah, I hope Ubi picks a wide range of gamers, but I don't have much opinion about them picking ToH or not.
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SwampLord
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Lord of the Swamp
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posted February 10, 2011 06:50 PM |
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Indeed their experience playing the past games is great. But this one, will be new and not just in title but in gameplay too. In the end, even those players will be as inexperienced in it as the rest of us.
I answered once in this topic to similar question, still if it's not clear to a multiplayer newbies like you, i recommend you to try play H6 then it appear vs good TOH player. Believe me you will feel the difference 
Multiplayer newbies like me? You know that kind of attitude won't earn you our support, and if you don't have it, a clear message won't ever reach Ubisoft.
I still claim the same thing. In H6 you're as inexperienced as the rest of us. And MP is not all there is to the game.
Someone who's experienced in HV or even HIII is still going to have an upper hand in HVI against a multiplayer newbie; while much has changed, the fundamentals behind the adventure map and combat stay the same. Hero chaining, fodder stacks, resource management, creature movement, etc are applicable across all Heroes games.
I agree that MP is not everything, but MP balance for HVI means SP balance as well; making sure creatures are not OP or UP is good for both modes. And the best people to test that would be people experienced in the game, not necessarily TOH players, but some kind of veteran player. A good tester is someone who has a lot of experience with the type of game they're playing so they can address issues.
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Lichking012
Known Hero
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posted February 10, 2011 07:01 PM |
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I think that beta testers should just simply be people who have pre-ordered the game. Take someone who is really into heroes, but doesn't play ToH or isn't very active in the online community. There is no good way to include them in the testing other than letting pre-orderers test.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted February 10, 2011 07:55 PM |
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted February 10, 2011 09:44 PM |
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Edited by KingImp at 21:46, 10 Feb 2011.
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I think that beta testers should just simply be people who have pre-ordered the game. Take someone who is really into heroes, but doesn't play ToH or isn't very active in the online community. There is no good way to include them in the testing other than letting pre-orderers test.
Problem with that is there seems to be no way to even pre-order yet. The link on the official site just takes you to the infamous "Coming Soon" page. Other major stores like GameStop don't even have this game listed on their page.
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kodial79
Promising
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posted February 10, 2011 09:49 PM |
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Anyway, it is not a really good idea to pre-order a game you don't know even its requirements yet.
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SwampLord
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posted February 10, 2011 09:52 PM |
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I'm dying on a preorder option here; I can't wait to get mine in but there's no option to do so as of yet, leading me to think maybe the game has been delayed.
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted February 15, 2011 05:33 PM |
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loooooll all of us who buy the game will be beta testers -- because there will be bugs to fix on release, and so we will all have to wait for the inevitable patch, since they will have friends, not hardcores 'beta' test.
One way or another, I am extremely excited about the game, and maybe they will actually deliver with minimal bugs/disbalance on release this time.
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted February 20, 2011 11:20 PM |
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looks more like a high-budget expansion of V rather than 'new'. And thats the reason, i hope, that wont have so many bugs and black spots as traditionally a new homm realease does. Seems like they didnt make it from scratch as in H5 comparing to H4.
And that's all brilliant! i wouldn't touch it if it was too different
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khan2013
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posted April 28, 2011 07:01 AM |
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Interesting that this thread seemed to die after the pre-order was established. Looks like June 21st will be the opening day. As for the beta, ......
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 28, 2011 07:06 AM |
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Make that 8 September.
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