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Mitzah
Mitzah


Promising
Supreme Hero
of the Horadrim
posted July 01, 2011 09:47 PM

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wow, the cyclop can move up to 8 tiles?
is movement supposed to make any sense in this game, like, why do crossbowmen and sisters move as far as angel and sun crusaders? and seriously, a goblin is faster than a cavalry unit??


Also, upgraded centaurs have 8 speed and are as fast as blazing glories and cyclops, rofl. Meanwhile, vampires are amongst the slowest units in the game.
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Acciolv
Acciolv

Tavern Dweller
posted July 01, 2011 09:50 PM

Wow! You did one really good job!
Are you going to do the same thing with the neutrals? It would be nice if you do that!
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Mitzah
Mitzah


Promising
Supreme Hero
of the Horadrim
posted July 01, 2011 10:15 PM

Speaking of neutrals, how the hell are you supposed to recruit them?
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted July 01, 2011 10:32 PM

You kill them till only one unit remains and right click to get its stats screen
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spamm
spamm


Hired Hero
posted July 01, 2011 11:02 PM

All 5 races: [url=https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj5I7_BjhTG6dFN1MndfMjhpdWlxWDRFeDhTLTdhSFE&hl=ru&authkey=CI39hqwM]creatures[/url]
Neutrals will be later..

@Cepheus:
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We just received an updated list of all creature stats from the beta and I'll post the information here ASAP.

Our table is the same as your list?

@Elvin:
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It is not simpler. Now you have both hero defense AND the % reductions, there is a specific formula to calculate properly.

The first draft of the formula by alexrom66 for manual: [url=http://forums.ag.ru/?board=heroes5&action=display&num=1309274870&goto=6372006]in Russian[/url]
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 01, 2011 11:23 PM

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wow, the cyclop can move up to 8 tiles?
is movement supposed to make any sense in this game, like, why do crossbowmen and sisters move as far as angel and sun crusaders? and seriously, a goblin is faster than a cavalry unit??


Also, upgraded centaurs have 8 speed and are as fast as blazing glories and cyclops, rofl. Meanwhile, vampires are amongst the slowest units in the game.

well, I would expect centaurs to be quite fast. but not sisters to beat vampires in a race for example...

phoenix : initiative 25 speed 4
special abilities :
-this unit is so damn fast that the haste spell has no effect on it.

-in an attempt to give some hope to an enemy unit facing their incredible speed, phoenix will let them retaliate before they attack.


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Davy
Davy


Known Hero
posted July 01, 2011 11:37 PM

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Project finished. I hope you can enjoy it in the opening post. for further projects please tell me what you want!


Thanks for all those pics,but hasn't the fate weavers spider form also different stats?If so,could you also post them?

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Vangelis21
Vangelis21


Supreme Hero
Manchild
posted July 02, 2011 06:33 AM

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You kill them till only one unit remains and right click to get its stats screen


As i saw there is no difference in stats for some reason between let's say 5 compared to 1 creep. I will recheck it though!

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Project finished. I hope you can enjoy it in the opening post. for further projects please tell me what you want!


Thanks for all those pics,but hasn't the fate weavers spider form also different stats?If so,could you also post them?



very good spot! I totally forgot about that! I will do my best to find it and post it.

* and yes to someone that asked, i will post neutrals too when i find them!
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spamm
spamm


Hired Hero
posted July 02, 2011 09:03 AM

+ Neutrals (Without Mermaid): [url=https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj5I7_BjhTG6dFN1MndfMjhpdWlxWDRFeDhTLTdhSFE&hl=ru&authkey=CI39hqwM]creatures[/url]
Not sure about the proper division in the "Active\Passive" for them.

Example of the calculation of damage by alexrom66:[url=http://forums.ag.ru/?board=heroes5&action=display&num=1309274870&goto=6372417]in Russian[/url]


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i will post neutrals too when i find them!

Wolfs - 1 Slava mission;
Phoenix - Central town on Broken Alliance
Elementals - Forts on Broken Alliance
Mermaid - not found.
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 02, 2011 04:55 PM

so the phoenix isn't the fastest creature anymore??

there should better be no stormwind perk, or flying creatures will struggle to reach anything

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Vangelis21
Vangelis21


Supreme Hero
Manchild
posted July 02, 2011 05:12 PM

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so the phoenix isn't the fastest creature anymore??

there should better be no stormwind perk, or flying creatures will struggle to reach anything


they are killers anyway. probably slower than in H5 but dare hit them! the were killing the 1/3 of my stack by ME hitting them!
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 02, 2011 05:44 PM

but I don't understand, since creatures deal little damage now, what is the point of reducing speed that much for most flyers? it's not like their first round attack will destroy half of your army?

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Vangelis21
Vangelis21


Supreme Hero
Manchild
posted July 02, 2011 06:14 PM

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but I don't understand, since creatures deal little damage now, what is the point of reducing speed that much for most flyers? it's not like their first round attack will destroy half of your army?


why do they deal little damage? 10 sisters kill 1 (at least) of any elite creature. this is not little! imagine that late game you will have 100+
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 02, 2011 06:24 PM

it's just from what I read, and so far it doesn't make much sense, like a big badass juggernaut gets owned by nuns lol

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Vangelis21
Vangelis21


Supreme Hero
Manchild
posted July 02, 2011 07:12 PM

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it's just from what I read, and so far it doesn't make much sense, like a big badass juggernaut gets owned by nuns lol


unfortunately you cannot copy from reality. In "reality" no vampire would ever die from a peasant's fork! or no dragon would die from a half inch goblin! that's why it is just a game!

I find the damages quite decent until now. it is early though
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Zenofex
Zenofex


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Kreegan-atheist
posted July 02, 2011 07:22 PM
Edited by Zenofex at 19:29, 02 Jul 2011.

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big badass juggernaut gets owned by nuns each of which deals more damage than two professional soldiers
Just to stress on the "this is a fantasy world" and "this is a game" point that somebody; always; inevitably makes.

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 02, 2011 08:12 PM

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A well-known Elven ballad recounts a battle with Vestals, claiming that each blow they delivered felt like being slapped on the face by your mother.


goddammit! I don't want to know who is your mother!

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spamm


Hired Hero
posted July 02, 2011 10:44 PM

[url=https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj5I7_BjhTG6dC1jWlVOT0VuTEVRd29yNm53Smc3b0E&hl=en_US]Town buildings[/url]
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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted July 02, 2011 10:58 PM

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goddammit! I don't want to know who is your mother!

Well you know, what with elves being pussies and all that

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted July 03, 2011 02:29 AM

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unfortunately you cannot copy from reality. In "reality" no vampire would ever die from a peasant's fork!

Bram Stoker disagrees. If Count Dracula fell to a bowie knife..
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