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Corribus
Corribus

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posted May 07, 2012 06:53 PM
Edited by Corribus at 18:55, 07 May 2012.

Another blow to gamers' rights

Next gen consoles to restrict the sale of used games.

That'd be ridiculous.  I haven't bought a new console game in probably a decade.
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Doomforge
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posted May 07, 2012 07:06 PM

Yup, exactly what I predicted: they will actually try to limit second-hand selling. Gaming is the only branch where money-grubbing developers see everything as "loss of profit", and a branch where they are actually most insolent and unstoppable.

Beyond retarded, I'd say.


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Seraphim
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posted May 07, 2012 07:32 PM

Amaizing.... just amaizing.

Greed. Greed never changes.

I dont think there is a point to get consoles now. Seriously, one time usage?

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posted May 07, 2012 07:38 PM

The article itself seemed to lean towards there being little chance of this happening though.
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Corribus
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posted May 07, 2012 07:43 PM

Yeah, it did.  Posted the link before I read it.  So that's encouraging.  Thank god there are two major console manufacturer's that can't afford to give the other an edge.
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posted May 07, 2012 08:17 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 20:19, 07 May 2012.

I'm not presently worried about this sort of thing. There's too much opposition working against it, and I'm not talking about opposition from broke, C-student college kids. I mean real opposition.

I'm financially Jewish. I buy my games from ebay and other outlets. If this ever did pass, I would be a hot little potato.
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posted May 07, 2012 09:29 PM

I still think that DLCs is a bigger threat, and is a much more grave issue. Mainly because the pirate in me already knows how to pirate on console, so eliminating second hand sales is not that much of a issue for me.
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posted May 08, 2012 12:14 AM
Edited by Darkshadow at 00:27, 08 May 2012.

Didn't Microsoft already say that claims about the next Xbox not having used games is bogus

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I still think that DLCs is a bigger threat, and is a much more grave issue. Mainly because the pirate in me already knows how to pirate on console, so eliminating second hand sales is not that much of a issue for me.


Why? I mean, on-disc DLC is outright robbery, but why do you think DLC in general is bad?
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Doomforge
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posted May 08, 2012 05:57 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 05:57, 08 May 2012.

DLC is 1% of the game's content at best (usually much less) priced at 10-20% of the game's original price. In other words, robbery.
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posted May 08, 2012 06:47 AM

I'm sure I overlook something here, but no one is forcing anyone to buy - neither games nor DLC nor consoles.

So how can it be robbery?

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posted May 08, 2012 06:55 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 06:58, 08 May 2012.

I think DS can hook up that recorded conversation with that EA 'guy'.



But incase he's incapable of doing so, DlCs only come out once you're into a game and invested significant time into it, ergo to expand on that experience you're much more likely/willing to purchase extra content without hesitation, rather than a raw rookie to the game or franchise.

You do have choice, but it's a heavily manipulated .


(there's a whole penny-pinching pscychology research behind this)
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2012 07:07 AM

That's called CAPITALISM, which is about getting people to spend the money they make, because otherwise it wouldn't work.

You still are free to decide whether to spend it or not.

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posted May 08, 2012 07:09 AM
Edited by Darkshadow at 07:10, 08 May 2012.

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CAPITALISM


Professor! I think I have pinpointed the cause of the problem!

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I think DS can hook up that recorded conversation with that EA 'guy'.


Huh?
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted May 08, 2012 07:10 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 07:12, 08 May 2012.

You get a million dollars, or my boot in your ***, decide, you have a choice, really.

You always have a choice, the difference is one is only ever picked if you're an anarchistic socialist rebel.

Edit: I have a memory wedged deep that you were involved in that, if that's not the case, then, LOL I'm never wrong, think harder .
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posted May 08, 2012 07:12 AM

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Edit: I have a memory wedged deep that you were involved in that, if that's not the case, then, LOL I'm never wrong, think harder .



I know of alot of outrageous snow EA has said, you'll have to be more specific.
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posted May 08, 2012 07:14 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 07:16, 08 May 2012.

nevermind now, I'll dig it up myself, and in the process get caved-in and call EA services for an excavation in exchange for my soul, thank you sir, you've officially ruined my day!

Wait, shouldn't this thread be in the VW and the overdone babby eaters of the land of China be dicussed to death in the OSM>?
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DarkShadow
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posted May 08, 2012 07:16 AM

Fine, tread on in solitude, ye of no faith.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2012 07:26 AM

Well, I, at least, am fairly sick about hearing consumers whine about items of entertainment and luxury being expensive.

If you don't like what you see - don't buy. For those unnecessary stuff that's actually all the options you need.
And best of all, if enough people don't buy, the outrage dies a natural death.

And speaking of consumer's rights. THAT'S IT! You have the right NOT to buy. Robbery is different.

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DarkShadow
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posted May 08, 2012 07:30 AM

So it's okay for the entire industry to stagnate and devolve due to Publisher greed?
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master_learn
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posted May 08, 2012 07:30 AM

My opinion

As I can see this subject,if the gamers are not united in the defending of their rights,then the corporations,which produce games will take this as advantage for themselves in order to do what they want!
IMO thats one of the main goals(to defend gamer rights) of HC!
I am not forgeting map-maker or scripter rights as well!
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