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DarkLord
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posted June 19, 2012 05:04 PM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 16:35, 30 Jun 2012.
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M&M: Creatures of Ashan
*note
evolution thread moved HERE
this thread will be dedicated to Ashan only
and will be updated soon..
 HAVEN
PEASANT
  
CROSSBOWMAN
    
SQUIRE
  
SENTINEL
 
VESTAL
 
GRIFFIN
    
PRIEST
  
RADIANT GLORY
 
CAVALIER
    
ANGEL
    
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 INFERNO
IMP
  
MANIAC
 
HORNED DEMON
  
CERBERUS
    
SUCCUBUS
    
TORMENTOR
 
BREEDER
 
JUGGERNAUT
 
NIGHTMARE
  
PIT LORD
    
DEVIL
  
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 ACADEMY
GREMLIN
  
GARGOYLE
  
GOLEM
  
MAGE
  
DJINN
  
RAKSHASA
  
TITAN
  
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 NECROPOLIS
SKELETON
    
ZOMBIE
  
GHOUL
 
GHOST
    
VAMPIRE
    
LICH
    
LAMASU
 
WRAITH
  
FATE SPINNER
 
BONE DRAGON
  
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 SYLVAN
SPRITE
  
BLADE DANCER
  
HUNTER
  
DRUID
  
UNICORN
  
TREANT
  
GREEN DRAGON
  
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 DUNGEON
ASSASSIN
  
BLOOD MAIDEN
  
MINOTAUR
  
DARK RAIDER
  
HYDRA
  
SHADOW WITCH
  
BLACK DRAGON
  
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 STRONGHOLD
GOBLIN
    
MAULER
    
HARPY
 
CENTAUR
    
DREAMWALKER
 
SHAMAN
  
SLAYER
  
JAGUAR WARRIOR
 
WYVERN
  
CYCLOPS
    
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 FORTRESS
DEFENDER
  
SPEARWIELDER
  
BEAR RIDER
  
BERSERKER
  
RUNE PRIEST
  
THANE
  
FIRE DRAGON
  
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 SANCTUARY
SHARK GUARD
 
CORAL PRIESTESS
 
KAPPA
 
SPRING SPIRIT
 
SNOW MAIDEN
 
KENSHI
 
KIRIN
 
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 NEUTRAL
WOLF
  
FIRE ELEMENTAL
 
AIR ELEMENTAL
 
WATER ELEMENTAL
 
EARTH ELEMENTAL
 
LIGHT ELEMENTAL
DARKNESS ELEMENTAL
MUMMY
MERMAID
MANTICORE
DEATH KNIGHT
PHOENIX
 
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DarkLord
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posted June 19, 2012 05:05 PM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 13:03, 20 Jun 2012.
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* reserved for artwork (coming soon)
P.S. guys need your help to clarify some points
1)should i include other Ashan creatures?
(Dark Messiah/Clash of Heroes/Duel of Champions/Heroes Kingdoms/Heroes Online)
OR stick to HoMM?
2)should i make a group "creatures that never made it to Ashan"
and include previous HoMM creatures (HoMM1/2/3/4)?
3)will need help to clarify whether creatures are in right group of evolution..
for now starting from Haven
later will move on to other factions..
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HAVEN
 Peasant
  
 Squire
 
 
 Crossbowman
  
   
 Sentinel
 
 
 Vestal
 
 
 Griffin
  
 
 
 Priest
  
 Radiant Glory
 
 
 Cavalier
  
 
 
Angel
 
   
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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posted June 19, 2012 05:38 PM |
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WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
These are creatures of Heroes!!
Point one: Not All heroes games are from ashan
Point two: Not only Heroes games are from ashan
If you want to make a graphical list of Ashan cratures pleas use the fallowing games and their expansions
Heroes V
Heroes VI
Dark Messiah
Clash of Heroes
Duel of Champions.
You could also use Heroes kingdoms but that game uses only imges from Heroes V and VI
edit:
And how did you manage to put the pikemen in one grupe with the sentinels.
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Valen-Teen
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posted June 19, 2012 05:46 PM |
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No creatures from Duel of champions? 
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Look forward HEROES VII
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DarkLord
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posted June 19, 2012 05:47 PM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 18:05, 19 Jun 2012.
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I wanted to show creatures evolution..
The ones that made it into Ashan from Enroth and Axeoth..
will specify it in the post!
As for Duel of Champions, will add them when the game is out!
Regarding Dark Messiah creatures, will add them in near future..
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gnomes2169
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 19, 2012 05:49 PM |
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Settle Dave, settle. A better title would have been "An Evolution of HOMM Creatures," but that is easily fixed if you ask a mod to fix it for you. About your pikeman question, Sentinels are just the evolution of spearmen, so they <i>can</i> be put together.
On the whole, I find that I like the art of H6, as it is fancy. One notable exception to this rule is the angel. Because I ruv mah H5 angels...
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DarkLord
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posted June 19, 2012 05:53 PM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 17:55, 19 Jun 2012.
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I am going to post artworks for better representation
will take time though, as need to lurk for more then i have at the moment!
p,s.
also i will not post creatures who didn't make it to Ashan
example Ogre, Behemoth etc.
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Xerox
Promising
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posted June 19, 2012 05:54 PM |
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I think its amazing that such a boring and bland creature as the WOLF has been in EVERY SINGLE GAME.
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DarkLord
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posted June 19, 2012 05:59 PM |
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i find the most "amazing" to be Peasant!
whattaheck they are doing here in the first place!
glad they went back to their farms in H6..
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esvath
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posted June 19, 2012 06:41 PM |
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Trying to be picky here :
I think that Sentinels should be in the same group as Swordmen/Squires. They do use the same weapon (swords). While Pikemen use, well, pike.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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posted June 19, 2012 06:55 PM |
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OK now when the intension is cleared. I can actually help you
You can use this for Clash of heroes cratures. I made it for celestial heavens wiki
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Avirosb
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posted June 19, 2012 07:01 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 19:06, 19 Jun 2012.
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God I hate those CoH designs 
What's that green dragon doing among the red/black dragons?
Edit: Heroes Online
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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posted June 19, 2012 07:28 PM |
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I still think adding all MaM creatures would be bad. Either stay only in the dimension of Heroes (That means No Coh, DM, DoCh etc). Or stay onlyon Ashan.
@Avirosb I would leave Heroes online out of this, as well as i would leav out heroes kingdoms. But it is true that Online has some very nice artworks
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nerevar 
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 19, 2012 11:37 PM |
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Quote:
God I hate those CoH designs
What's that green dragon doing among the red/black dragons?
In HoMM2 the warlock had 3 dragons: green/red/black.
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Avirosb
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posted June 20, 2012 02:50 AM |
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Ya, but he added a green dragon evolution as well.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted June 20, 2012 05:50 AM |
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Still part of the Black Dragon evolution in Heroes 2.
Just one thing, why start at H6 and work back to H1, wouldn't it be better to start at H1 and work forward to H6?
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Avirosb
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posted June 20, 2012 08:14 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 08:14, 20 Jun 2012.
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And also parto of the green dragon evolution.
would have been better to call the 'nature dragons' then 
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Dave_Jame
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posted June 20, 2012 09:09 AM |
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It would actually be much harder then this. This page only shows the progres of each creature only by its current setting
But it does not for exaple take in care the shifts between factions. Like that Centaur was originaly a warlock creature. That the Dragons have splited into two branches in heroes III etc.
And also it takes the names as the basis The wraight and Wight from heroes III were more part of the Ghost evolution only with different names rather then the beginning of Wrights we know from Heroes V.
also I would like to know an opinions
Shouldn't Shama and dream walker and Vestal and Priests be the same evolution branches? Sswell as Cheiftain and aguar warrior?
All these units basicly represent the same part of the faction Spellcaster/big warrior.
And Also. I think the Crusader from HoMaM IV would fit into the squire branch rather then the squire himself, He was a new unit imho in that game.
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I'm just a Mirror of your
self.
We see, we look, we gather,
we
store, we teach. We are
many,
and you can be one of us.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted June 20, 2012 09:15 AM |
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Ya, it gets somewhat complicated when
H2 Druid -> H3 Monk -> H4 Monk -> H5 Warhammer Priest -> H6 Nun
And I don't care what other people say,
the Corall Priestess is totally a medusa, only with a funky name.
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DarkLord
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posted June 20, 2012 10:35 AM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 10:46, 20 Jun 2012.
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Lets list then "arguable" creatures..
If there are valid points to change them, i will..
for me personally..
(will start from Haven)
No doubt - Peasant/Crossbowman/Griffin/RadiantGlory/Cavalier/Angel
the rest will explain
Squire and Sentinel
i divided them by simple principal
1)one is a warrior with a pike
2)other is a warrior with sword
had doubts of including Crusader from HoMM4 or the Squire HoMM4
but i think Crusader is a successor of Paladin from HoMM1/2
plus he has many buffs against undead
Priest and Vestal
here i divided them as well because
Vestal is clearly a healer
while Priest is more offensive, and its ranged unit
if you disagree please explain why..
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