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blob2
blob2


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posted January 18, 2013 07:38 PM
Edited by blob2 at 19:39, 18 Jan 2013.

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In the faceless description, I wonder if "poorly trusted by their allies" will have any bearing on them with other friendly troops in gameplay?


Faceless I choose you!

-> Player chooses Fight! Headbutt!

Faceless won't obey!

-> Player chooses Fight!!! Puppeteer!

Faceless won't obey.
It hurt itself in its confusion...


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JollyJoker
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posted January 22, 2013 11:16 AM

It may be of interest to you that the Minotaur of the Addon is by far the mosst powerful Mino ever seen in any HoMM. Currently, just to give you an impression, even the basic Minotaur is one tough mother of 90 HPs. Add two abilities, preemptive strike on one hand (retaliation comes before the enemy attack), and Mighty Slash on the other, a special attack with a cooldown, that does regular damage, but without retaliation, while pushing small creatures back 2 squares ("No, you won't block the Stalkers!"), and you have one hell of a BASIC(!) unit.
They also look like they mean it.
Someone clearly loves Minos in this part of Ashan's history.

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blob2
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posted January 22, 2013 11:58 AM
Edited by blob2 at 11:59, 22 Jan 2013.

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Currently, just to give you an impression, even the basic Minotaur is one tough mother of 90 HPs. Add two abilities, preemptive strike on one hand (retaliation comes before the enemy attack), and Mighty Slash on the other, a special attack with a cooldown, that does regular damage, but without retaliation, while pushing small creatures back 2 squares ("No, you won't block the Stalkers!"), and you have one hell of a BASIC(!) unit.


So my predictions about Minos special ability (Mighty Slash) were right. I had a thought that it will be something similar to Annihilators and Jaguars ability (no retaliation)...

On a side note JJ, the fact, that you are telling all this means that the info sharing restrictions for insiders were lifted?

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JollyJoker
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posted January 22, 2013 12:07 PM

Nope. But at this point I feel that special info about a known creature, like how many HPs they come with - (currently!) - or what exactly is behind a known ability won't spoil anything for anyone, least of all for Ubi.

Anything known abot the 10 Dungeon reputation abilities, by the way?

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Storm-Giant
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posted January 22, 2013 12:12 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 12:13, 22 Jan 2013.

OMG, minos look as powerful as I could dream

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Anything known abot the 10 Dungeon reputation abilities, by the way?

Not yet
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Maurice
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posted January 22, 2013 12:25 PM

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I'm been sifting through, but I can't find anywhere -- is there going to be hard copies of SoD? All I can find for preorder is digital copies. I want a hard copy, and I also want to get free stuff.

P.S. for the next few hours all Heroes stuff is on sale up to 75% off
Ubishaftshop


I tried to pre-order SoD yesterday from the Ubi shop, but as soon I proceeded to checkout, it gave a "server error" message. Tried it twice in Firefox and once in IE, but kept getting the error on checkout ... I guess they don't want me to pre-order.

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DoubleDeck
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posted January 22, 2013 12:28 PM

Thanks for the info JJ, the 90 HP are in line with elites though but still nice.
If you had Counterstrike III, it would probably not "be used up" if mino retaliates first (as this is his ability)..
Also I wonder if Bloodrage IV would ignore this ability, probably not....


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JollyJoker
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posted January 22, 2013 12:28 PM

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OMG, minos look as powerful as I could dream

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Anything known abot the 10 Dungeon reputation abilities, by the way?

Not yet


That's too bad, because that's something I can't spoil then. Sorry.

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Avirosb
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posted January 22, 2013 12:29 PM

It's sounded dumb anyhow U_U

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lithium_111
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posted January 22, 2013 12:34 PM
Edited by lithium_111 at 12:35, 22 Jan 2013.

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It may be of interest to you that the Minotaur of the Addon is by far the mosst powerful Mino ever seen in any HoMM. Currently, just to give you an impression, even the basic Minotaur is one tough mother of 90 HPs. Add two abilities, preemptive strike on one hand (retaliation comes before the enemy attack), and Mighty Slash on the other, a special attack with a cooldown, that does regular damage, but without retaliation, while pushing small creatures back 2 squares ("No, you won't block the Stalkers!"), and you have one hell of a BASIC(!) unit.
They also look like they mean it.
Someone clearly loves Minos in this part of Ashan's history.


if the unupgraded has 90 hp what about the upgraded?
Also, are they slow?

i really love those mother f***rs and excited to know !

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DoubleDeck
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posted January 22, 2013 01:13 PM

Come on JJ, we won't tell anyone

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JollyJoker
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posted January 22, 2013 01:21 PM

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Thanks for the info JJ, the 90 HP are in line with elites though but still nice.
If you had Counterstrike III, it would probably not "be used up" if mino retaliates first (as this is his ability)..
Also I wonder if Bloodrage IV would ignore this ability, probably not....


Right, Counterstrike III is useless on Minos, but I and II are a nice plus. Bloodrage IV should NOT work on them (since they attack first).

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Locksley
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posted January 22, 2013 01:53 PM

I just came to wonder, is Dungeon overpowered?

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Storm-Giant
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posted January 22, 2013 01:59 PM

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I just came to wonder, is Dungeon overpowered?

From all JJ is saying (he's an insider), I'd say yes without any doubt.

But remenber that one or two balancing patches will happen, and I see our insiders doing a good job in that aspect
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DoubleDeck
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posted January 22, 2013 02:02 PM

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Thanks for the info JJ, the 90 HP are in line with elites though but still nice.
If you had Counterstrike III, it would probably not "be used up" if mino retaliates first (as this is his ability)..
Also I wonder if Bloodrage IV would ignore this ability, probably not....


Right, Counterstrike III is useless on Minos, but I and II are a nice plus. Bloodrage IV should NOT work on them (since they attack first).


You mean since they retaliate first....
The thing is Bloodrage IV counters Counterstrike III so maybe it works the same way and can counter the mino's retaliation (which would've come first)? Maybe overcomplicating things here but just saying.....

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JollyJoker
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posted January 22, 2013 02:30 PM

Yeah, well, with all these abilities and combinations of them it's next to impossible to get them to work properly.

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KingImp
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posted January 22, 2013 04:37 PM
Edited by KingImp at 16:38, 22 Jan 2013.

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I just came to wonder, is Dungeon overpowered?

From all JJ is saying (he's an insider), I'd say yes without any doubt.

But remenber that one or two balancing patches will happen, and I see our insiders doing a good job in that aspect


I'd say that depends on whether this Dungeon's growth rate is less than the other factions, just like in Heroes 5.

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Storm-Giant
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posted January 22, 2013 04:55 PM

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I just came to wonder, is Dungeon overpowered?

From all JJ is saying (he's an insider), I'd say yes without any doubt.

But remenber that one or two balancing patches will happen, and I see our insiders doing a good job in that aspect


I'd say that depends on whether this Dungeon's growth rate is less than the other factions, just like in Heroes 5.


JJ seems very convinced that Dungeon is overpowered, and remenber he is playing the expansion. I'd trust his words
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted January 22, 2013 06:39 PM

JJ, are Black Dragons worthy of their legacy? What I mean is are they a powerhouse that cost a lot of resources, or are they simple Champion tier units like the rest?

Also, do you know how many new neutrals there will be in the expansion, or when those will be revealed?

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DoubleDeck
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posted January 22, 2013 08:20 PM

I don't think dungeon will be overpowered....it all depends how you use them and any faction for that matter....most say inferno is very weak but if you use them cleverly they can be very strong....

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