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Dave_Jame
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Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted January 26, 2013 04:17 PM |
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I actually like both versions
The Fan made re-designe is more fitting to "deep underground"
But I like the play of lights in the original work
What I do not like on the original work is the "ro bright purple" it just shines to much. The modified one is a bit better.
What I do not like on the re-designed is the fact that all "pright purple" was tuned down. In case of some buildings (Like the marketplace or "manticora" dwelling (the one left from the faceless pyre) gould be a bit more brighter.
But if You asked me which one I would like in the game, I would say the re-designed
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The game hasn't been even released, and people are already modding it :/
Editig a pictire in Photoshop (or etc. program) just cant be considered modding......
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 26, 2013 04:25 PM |
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The game hasn't been even released, and people are already modding it :/
Editig a pictire in Photoshop (or etc. program) just cant be considered modding......
Changing? Interfering? Call it what you like, the original sense of my statement doesn't change, right? What I mean is that I would rather wait for the games release, and an optional mod...
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted January 26, 2013 04:28 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 16:29, 26 Jan 2013.
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Well, you start to complain about fans modding it, it seems that you got a problem with that
Yes, because I'm a purist, and the only way of modding acceptable for me is to add new content like Horn of the Abyss for instance, or fixing some game mechanics or bugs, not changing it's art style or textures...
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Dave_Jame
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posted January 26, 2013 04:32 PM |
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Editig a pictire in Photoshop (or etc. program) just cant be considered modding......
Changing? Interfering? Call it what you like, the original sense of my statement doesn't change, right?
Well depends on how you look at it. Modding the game is changing the original content to your will. What these people did was basically giving feedback to the developers, a very good one since they also show an alternative or vision of how the see this. Now they just want to know if, or how many, people share this opinion.
And what better time to give this feedback then now, when the Devs still have time to think about it and change it. I doubt one artist would spend more than a half day work to implement these changes, so it is managable to still change this.
Offcorce this should not be forced on the devs. It is them in the end, who will decide what will make it into the game or not, and how it will look like.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted January 26, 2013 04:38 PM |
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Now they just want to know if, or how many, people share this opinion.
And what better time to give this feedback then now, when the Devs still have time to think about it and change it. I doubt one artist would spend more than a half day work to implement these changes, so it is managable to still change this.
Offcorce this should not be forced on the devs. It is them in the end, who will decide what will make it into the game or not, and how it will look like.
You are right of course. What I meant from the beginning of this whole dispute was that I don't like the new design and hope it will not be implemented...
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xerox
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posted January 26, 2013 05:09 PM |
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it looks like a billion times better
does anybody know if it's actually possible to recolor town screens?
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted January 26, 2013 05:13 PM |
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it looks like a billion times better
does anybody know if it's actually possible to recolor town screens?
I suggest ask it at the modding topic 
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KingImp
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posted January 26, 2013 05:22 PM |
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Question for Elvin and JJ.
If you guys are part of the testing that is going on, why hasn't anyone from Ubi let you know exactly where you can find these neutrals so you can test them properly?
From what I've gathered from both of your posts, you have no idea what all the neutrals are and are just finding them randomly. One would think if Ubi wanted this properly tested, they would make sure to tell you what to look for and where on the map(s).
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 26, 2013 06:17 PM |
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Neutrals don't need much testing.
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Storm-Giant
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posted January 26, 2013 06:25 PM |
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Neutrals don't need much testing.
Can you say if the have any special new abilities, or they use only existing ones?
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Dave_Jame
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Legendary Hero
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posted January 26, 2013 06:28 PM |
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I think he alrady said.
If there is anything interesting he ca give us info about it, but firs they have to make the nit public.
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GenYAarikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted January 26, 2013 06:36 PM |
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Tbh I find the whole "Dungeon is too bright" stuff too nitpicky. It's kinda like what Cameron said regarding Titanic, yes that crap is supposed to be like pitch black but you need light on the actors.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted January 26, 2013 07:14 PM |
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Tbh I find the whole "Dungeon is too bright"
As well as too uniform in color, which is just bad design.
Besides, all that light (especially in the middle) is frackin' distractin'!
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It's kinda like what Cameron said regarding Titanic, yes that crap is supposed to be like pitch black but you need light on the actors.
Funny you'd mention that, because the whole drat town looks like it belong underwater
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JollyJoker
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posted January 26, 2013 07:34 PM |
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I think I'm getting a little pissed now. Are you unable to envision SHADOW? Shadow is the consequence of ambient light that is BLOCKED.
Which means that you need INDIRECT LIGHT SOURCES to create pools of shadow, in which details are difficult to make out and, if done well, imagination fills in the blanks.
Which is exactly what this Elrath and Malassa stuff is all about. Elrath puts everything into light. NO shadow, NO doubt, just plain and glaring truth. While Malassa is exactly the opposite: too many uncertainties for something like one and only truth - SHADOWS in which many truth may exist.
Now, the ART - and it doesn't make sense to discuss something that is a simple graphic painting - the ART here is to SUMMON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, for darkness's sake.
It's like with the really good B/W movies. Psycho, for example, the scene when mother is finally shown, the masterful play of light and shadow.
So the townscreen is cute, but artistically it's crap.
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Storm-Giant
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posted January 26, 2013 07:45 PM |
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Funny you'd mention that, because the whole drat town looks like it belong underwater
Damn, you always take me out a laugh 
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted January 26, 2013 07:48 PM |
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Damn, you always take me out a laugh
Always a pleasure 
I tried to adjust the colors so the town screen becomes a tad darker while retaining as many details as possible,
but with my limited Photoshop skillz and the extremely limited palette, it's pretty much a lost cause.
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Storm-Giant
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posted January 26, 2013 07:52 PM |
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I think that's just dark, not shadow 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted January 26, 2013 07:56 PM |
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Now it is a true dark elf city
Lmao at the little mermaid.
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted January 26, 2013 07:57 PM |
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The bottom right one actually looks really nice. With some additional touches (not sure what they should be  ) I think it would look excellent. The rest (no offense) sort of look like they were just run though a bad Instagram filter. At least, in my inexperienced eyes.
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Avonu
Responsible
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 26, 2013 07:59 PM |
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Changing lights/palette swap won't help if all buildings are in same colour. It's not purple lights fault, it's all together (lights, buildings, background) in this town screen look bad - you have to change some buildings pallete here and there to correct this.
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Elrath puts everything into light. NO shadow, NO doubt, just plain and glaring truth.
Blinding "truth" - obey and don't ask the questions.
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