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posted October 18, 2013 12:18 AM |
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JJ I do not no why but for some reason I've never been able to get inside KC. I don't know why, I can see the talent easily enough and in the past, have liked groups like Sabbath and/or Iommi's darker style (not making an exact comparison) but I just don't "feel" the songs.
Any of the "famous groups" strike you that way?
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posted October 18, 2013 12:25 AM |
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markkur said:
JJ I do not no why but for some reason I've never been able to get inside KC. I don't know why, I can see the talent easily enough and in the past, have liked groups like Sabbath and/or Iommi's darker style (not making an exact comparison) but I just don't "feel" the songs.
Any of the "famous groups" strike you that way?
When I said "classics" I meeant it. 
Anayway, The full concert
is just amazing.
Loved Ronert Fripp's guitar playing, from since 40 years ago. "Songs?" Don't know.
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posted October 18, 2013 02:48 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
Easily on par with the classics
No offense meant, JJ, but I think this is terrible...
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posted October 18, 2013 10:41 AM |
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You know what they say about taste, Cor.
I, for example, find the singing in most operas terrible.
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posted October 18, 2013 12:09 PM |
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The concerts that stand out in my memory besides Yes & Deep Purple, and for different reasons, were Humble Pie (1st album), Frampton's "Comes Alive" and Rush 2112.
I have another couple of memories that are more...just fun. I saw Foghat at an amusement-park and ZZ-Top was almost as unknown when they opened for James Gang and played from their Rio Grand Mud. 
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posted October 18, 2013 11:14 PM |
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Even though I've seen a lot of very memorable concerts, for example Black Sabbath in December 1971, my very first rock concert, or the Stones, Bowie, Santana, Zappa, Lenny Kravitz, U2, Gary Moore, Pink Floyd and lots more, easily the most memorable concert has been
Portishead 1998 in Düsseldorf.
They were supposed to play in the Stahlwerk, but moved to the 5 times bigger PHilipshalle in Düsseldorf due to massive ticket demand, and the hall was packed at the event. Anyway, I'm a sucker for punctuality, and it was scheduled to start at 8 pm. At half past a guy came on stage the background music stopped and he started scratching a bit - nothing too fancy, mind you. I was there with my wife, and we starting to get pissed some. Must have been around 9, when the concert started. Hall was pretty noisy at the point.
First song quieted things pretty fast - when Gibbons started to sind, basically, and when in the pause between that and the next song she started excusing for being late, since they had never played before such a a big crowd, it became magic fast. Ambiance was like in an opera: utter quietness while a song would be performed, which is very unusual for a rock concert, because there will always be some pissed nerd yelling something in quieter song parts, a little awe pause of 2 or 3 second after a song would be finished, before applause would explode.
When it all was over, it was like, WOW.
Somehow it wasn't my kind of music - but it would seem it was.
I'd have liked to see Massive Attack as well - didn't manage, sadly.
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posted November 21, 2013 12:18 AM |
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All hail the viola organista, a new instrument based on a design by Leonardo da Vinci. It really feels weird to watch a keyboard sound like that, I wonder if it's going to catch on:
Viola organista made by Slawomir Zubrzycki
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posted December 02, 2013 05:07 AM |
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Gotta agree with Cor. I have never really found King Crimson any good. I also don't rate Emerson, Lake and Palmer very much but their Fanfare for a Common Man is one hell of a track.
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posted December 02, 2013 11:01 AM |
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I think, the brain (whichever half of it) must DIG music, that is, you must be able to reproduce music in your brain to really appreciate it.
That's the "secret" behind simple or "catchy" tunes are so successful in modern music.
That's also the reason why our forefathers initially didn't like fairly catchy stuff like the Beatles - it was too wild and the rhythm and the wooohs would - for THEIR ears - made the music wild and chaotic for them; (lots of them had accustomed themselves with simpler forms of Rock Music after some time, though).
I have no problem memorizing most of their music and reproducing it in my head, and *I* find a lot of their work quite "catchy", although it's clear, for others it's not, since the arrangement and song structure is partly a little bit more complex, and the "melodies" may sound somewhat unusual, even atonal at times, especially the guitar play - but that's what makes thing fascinating.
King Crimson has been called "Progressive Rock" for a reason. In my opinion the albums "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" and "Red" are highlights of that Genre.
Larks' Tongues is quite a soundscape with Songs like the two parts of the title track, "Exiles" or "Easy Money", and for me the first side of the album "Red" with the 3 tracks "Red", "Fallen Angel" and "One More Red Nightmare" is standout work.
The later work starting with Discipline in the 80s is mostly pretty good as well, and how good they were they have shown live. I mean, it's no POP music - it's SERIOUS music, and one attribute of most KC records is - you cannot really give their music a time stamp. Part of their work sounds much more at home in later periods.
ELP is also not POP music. Since I'm a guitar man, so-to-speak, they are obviously not my favorites or something, but the studio work hasn't been too bad, although live they tended to lengthen things to boring dimensions.
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posted January 18, 2014 03:59 AM |
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I'm a huge fan of Chopin and I'm a huge fan of Chopin's Waltzes. Really there aren't any I don't like. Here is one of my favorites, by one of the best Chopin pianists around.
I'm actually learning this piece myself at the moment but there are a few tricky measures about halfway through that are giving me the hardest time to get right.
Speaking of Chopin, this is the piece I just recently mastered. If any of you are fans of the Walking Dead, listen for it in Season 3, as one of the Governor's background themes.
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posted January 18, 2014 10:25 AM |
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@JJ
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I think, the brain (whichever half of it) must DIG music, that is, you must be able to reproduce music in your brain to really appreciate it.
That's the "secret" behind simple or "catchy" tunes are so successful in modern music.
You might find this book really interesting:
This is Your Brain on Music
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@Corribus
If you're that into Chopin I recommend to check out the Polish jazz pianist Andrej Jagodzinski, he has many albums adapting Chopin's work to jazz. Kind of like Jack Loussier always does Bach but I think Chopin pieces are much more suiting for jazz than the Barok of Bach. His adaptation of Prelude in E Minor is the best classical to jazz conversion I ever came by.
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posted January 18, 2014 12:09 PM |
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I might try it, although there are alternatives.
Thanks, anyway, for the hint.
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posted January 18, 2014 04:10 PM |
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artu: I will check it out, thanks.
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posted January 18, 2014 04:59 PM |
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They sound like noise, I suggest only playing one at a time 
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artu said:
All hail the viola organista, a new instrument based on a design by Leonardo da Vinci. It really feels weird to watch a keyboard sound like that, I wonder if it's going to catch on:
Viola organista made by Slawomir Zubrzycki
Weird but well played, "Hail viola organista!"
It remembered me of another "new" way of playing: 2 Cellos who have done classical covers of many rock songs like Welcome to the Jungle. I first heard them on the radio playing Oh Well with Elton John. Cool but not always better than the original by Fleetwood Mac.
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posted January 21, 2014 03:24 PM |
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lol, that "welcome to the jungle" cover was entertaining, to say the least. but, i still prefer the original. the intro to one of the best rock albums that ever was, and still the best "rowdy, out on the town" album there is. i've loved that album since i was a kid, and never stopped loving it. 
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posted January 21, 2014 07:15 PM |
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Right, so what about DREAM THEATER?
I mean, as the vanguard of contemporary "high quality music"?
Take for example Home - a 13 minute piece, performed live.
Alternatively you might want to watch their Dark Side of the Moon Live rendition of that record. Or most any others piece of them, for that matter.
Any takers?
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posted January 21, 2014 07:20 PM |
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If the vocalist sounds like Jim Morrison a little bit, I vaugely remember listening to them years ago and thinking "adequate" It was a concept album or some sort of musical... All faded out now..
Edit: The one in the link is definetly too 80's HM for my taste.
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posted January 21, 2014 07:30 PM |
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80s HM? You mean part of the vocal part?
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