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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: HoMM 3 (Small tricks vs AI)
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revolut1oN
revolut1oN


Famous Hero
posted March 10, 2014 01:36 PM
Edited by revolut1oN at 13:38, 10 Mar 2014.

Have you tried Way Home? It's insane. Also, what's with the Chaos Hydra bug? Haven't heard of that one.

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Also, I never gamble on typical "High Moral" or other low posibility case. It's really a waste of time.


Respect, I couldn't finish Unleashing the Bloodthirsty under 180 days without some morale-reload stuff.

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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted March 10, 2014 02:05 PM

revolut1oN said:
Have you tried Way Home? It's insane. Also, what's with the Chaos Hydra bug? Haven't heard of that one.

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Also, I never gamble on typical "High Moral" or other low posibility case. It's really a waste of time.


Respect, I couldn't finish Unleashing the Bloodthirsty under 180 days without some morale-reload stuff.


I played Way Home 2 years before and still no more than 200 days (but I cannot remember), if it beyond 200 days I must remember and try my best to retry it. My strategy is not pursuing the minimum time but as soon as possible, for finding a fastest movement and a typical battle (without morale reload and bugs, I hate them).

Chaos Hydra bug is for some garrison (anti-magic garrison as well) and event battle. If you carry 150 Chaos Hydra in one troop (only, no any other creature) to defeat 7*500 Phenix in anti-magic garrison (Hero: not armorer or offence specialty, stat: 30/30/30/30, no artifacts), I believe no one can make it. But if you click "Quick Battle" and intrude this garrison, you may make it (Save/Load), even lost only 9 Chaos Hydra to defeat them if you are extremely lucky! Sometimes works on 7*9999 Azure Dragons in Anti-magic garrison/Cursed Ground if you have enough Chaos Hydra (Level 59 Tazar with 99/99/99/99 stat + Orb of Vulnerbility and Armor of Damned + 2265 Chaos Hydra may make it, even only lost 135 Chaos Hydra).

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 30, 2014 10:12 AM

So when are the new tricks coming?
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted March 30, 2014 05:52 PM

master_learn said:
So when are the new tricks coming?


Yeah!!! Please something new, I caught myself watching an entire BoardGamerGirl video. I don't need to think I'm such an amazing player...

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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted March 30, 2014 07:46 PM

master_learn said:
So when are the new tricks coming?


Haha, seems like you guys really like my video^^, and I really appreciate it! Because my computer is broken, I just want to repair it first and release my new tricks to you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBFnoRuLfME
This is the link of my "Heroes III (The Shadow of Death): Trick 15 - Gold Dragon & Ghost Dragon", it's my pleasure to release it to you. But the tips (subtitles) have not been uploaded on this video because of my broken computer. You can have a previous watch and think about how my trick works on it.

It's a great battle when you use a weak team to defeat 7*9999 dragons without the Orb of Vulnerability!

Trick 15 - Gold Dragon & Ghost Dragon
Battle: The Orb of Inhibition Battle - Last battle!
Map: Unleashing the Bloodthirsty
Battle Field: Sand + Magic Plain
Hero: Loynis (Specialty: Prayer, 95/95/90/92, mana: 3396)
Skills (All Expert):  Archery, Wisdom, Air Magic, Water Magic, Tactics, Intelligence, Offense, Armorer

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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted March 30, 2014 07:55 PM

bloodsucker said:
master_learn said:
So when are the new tricks coming?


Yeah!!! Please something new, I caught myself watching an entire BoardGamerGirl video. I don't need to think I'm such an amazing player...


Thanks. You will find my Trick 15 link on my previous reply to master_learn. And I will show you my other play in Xiedu map in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPde8YiDdVE (but I don't want to make this video in my trick compilation^^ just for fun)

Trick 15 is a great battle to defeat 7*9999 Dragons with out the orb of vulnerability - the last battle of map "Unleashing the Bloodthirsty". Hope you enjoy it!

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heroes_player
heroes_player


Known Hero
posted March 30, 2014 08:08 PM

It's a nice video but it is way too long imo maybe you could speed up in the moments when they become repetitive and then slow down when something different is happening btw are the goldies immune to fear? If it is so, then it is a new thing to me

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted March 30, 2014 08:48 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 10:45, 09 Apr 2014.

Richard_Chen said:
Trick 15 is a great battle to defeat 7*9999 Dragons with out the orb of vulnerability - the last battle of map "Unleashing the Bloodthirsty". Hope you enjoy it!


It was great, only when they were just a stack of Crystal and a stack of Rust Dragons I don't know why you kept on casting force field. Fear that one of them could get a moral bonus?

I saw also your video about Xiedu and I found it even more interesting. I've been seeing a lot of videos lately, trying to became a good enouch player to finnish all of those famous maps. Most of the videos I saw were from a complete map not just a single battle and I think I like those better.
I know sometimes u take more then 20 minutes to make just a single battle a full game must take hundreds of hours of streamed videos but the thing is, most of the videos I saw were made by noobs.
I don't learn nothing from seeing them, I've fought much better players on GameRanger.

I would (and I believe I'm not the only one) like to see more videos of really skilled players building up their strategies for the entire map, specially for those really ticky like "Unleashing the Bloodthirsty".


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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted March 31, 2014 04:20 AM

heroes_player said:
It's a nice video but it is way too long imo maybe you could speed up in the moments when they become repetitive and then slow down when something different is happening btw are the goldies immune to fear? If it is so, then it is a new thing to me


Gold Dragons are immune to all Fearie Dragon's magic, and Ghost Dragons are immune to fear, so they are the key to the victory in this battle. Gold Dragon was fear in this video if you see carefully^^

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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted March 31, 2014 04:24 AM

bloodsucker said:
Richard_Chen said:
Trick 15 is a great battle to defeat 7*9999 Dragons with out the orb of vulnerability - the last battle of map "Unleashing the Bloodthirsty". Hope you enjoy it!


It was great, only when they were just a stack of Crystal and a stack of Rust Dragons I don't know why you kept on casting force field. Fear that one of them could get a moral bonus?

I saw also your video about Xiedu and I found it even more interesting. I've been seeing a lot of videos lately, trying to became a good enouch player to finnish all of those famous maps. Most of the videos I saw were from a complete map not just a single battle and I think I like those better.
I know sometimes u take more then 20 minutes to make just a single battle a full game must take hundreds of hours of streamed videos but the thing is, most of the videos I saw were made by noobs.
I don't learn nothing from seeing them, I've fought much better players on GameRanger.

I would (and I believe I'm not the only one) like to see more videos of really skilled players building up their strategies for the entire map, specially for those really ticky like "Unleashing the Bloodthirsty".

P.S. Is there other people who is posting their videos regularly besides Richard and Maretti?


The reason why I always cast Force Field is that Crystal Dragon has 30% chance to resist my magic since I have no Orb of Vulnerability.

I will take your suggest into consideration, and I will try to post all the run through (not only the battle) in vids.

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Aron
Aron


Known Hero
posted March 31, 2014 10:37 AM
Edited by Aron at 10:50, 31 Mar 2014.

Ah, I really don't understand where you find the passion to battle a force of 9999 Azure dragons using a few hundred arch devils and what not. It must take forever.

It's just different interests/playstyles but just to comapare to my way of playing. I almost have a hard time using such simple tricks as attracting AI units to the bottom of the map using fast units as to delay their movement to my shooters up north.

The next time I play I think I'll go with Auto-Combat everytime it's not a decisive battle just to even out the score a bit. I don't fancy doing this since the most fun I have in HoMM3 is fighting the battles, it's just something I think is necessary the better I get to make the battles more fair.

These type of thigns IMO don't challenge me. Once you figure them out once (and figuring them out can be fun) they become abusive. But that's just me.

It's an interesting contrast. You seem to enjoy buffing up troop numbers, giving yourself almost impossible tasks and finding any way to beat them.

I try to cripple myself and defeat the enemy on a strategic level instead.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted April 08, 2014 01:03 PM

Richard_Chen,would you post some movement tricks vs the adventure map?
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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted April 08, 2014 02:35 PM

master_learn said:
Richard_Chen,would you post some movement tricks vs the adventure map?


OK, I will open a new topic and post videos of whole run through of the map "The Lord of War". I hope you enjoy it!

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted April 08, 2014 03:58 PM

Richard_Chen said:
master_learn said:
Richard_Chen,would you post some movement tricks vs the adventure map?


OK, I will open a new topic and post videos of whole run through of the map "The Lord of War". I hope you enjoy it!


That would be great. Building orders, chainning and secondary skills choice are always between a beginner major doubts.

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
posted April 08, 2014 04:01 PM

Richard_Chen said:
master_learn said:
Richard_Chen,would you post some movement tricks vs the adventure map?


OK, I will open a new topic and post videos of whole run through of the map "The Lord of War". I hope you enjoy it!

A new thread would be more fitting, yes
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted April 21, 2014 01:34 PM

Richard_Chen said:
master_learn said:
Richard_Chen,would you post some movement tricks vs the adventure map?


OK, I will open a new topic and post videos of whole run through of the map "The Lord of War". I hope you enjoy it!


Please hurry up. I get tired of waiting, it's like waiting for the next volume of "A song of Fire and Ice", I go to bookshop tons of times before they came out.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted April 21, 2014 01:45 PM

In other words,Richard,it's better to say at least when we should expect the new thread or we tend to think it would appear any minute.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted April 21, 2014 03:09 PM

master_learn said:
In other words,Richard,it's better to say at least when we should expect the new thread or we tend to think it would appear any minute.


I have to agree with Angelito, I'm not tailed for Diplomacy

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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2014 04:52 AM

bloodsucker said:
master_learn said:
In other words,Richard,it's better to say at least when we should expect the new thread or we tend to think it would appear any minute.


I have to agree with Angelito, I'm not tailed for Diplomacy


Hello, guys! I am very sorry to be late for the video. I want to play it without any S/L and bring it in original version to you guys. It is very hard to make it, and takes much time to edit it afterwards.

Now I am working in a listed company as a CEO in Aussie, so it's a little bit busy on my job. But I will catch up with the video.

The first video will posted on Youtube by May 11. Sorry again for the delay~!

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted April 24, 2014 06:12 AM

Richard_Chen said:

I want to play it without any S/L and bring it in original version to you guys. It is very hard to make it, and takes much time to edit it afterwards.



Thank u for your awser.
Don't u think that a map made without safe and load will be to short on your famous tricks?

As a matter of fact, IMHO it's precisely the safe/load that permits to discover an imaginative tactic to win a totally unbalanced battle on an hard fixed map instead of all those trivial battle tricks that excel on early map attack for the competitive games.




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