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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: HoMM 3 (Small tricks vs AI)
Thread: HoMM 3 (Small tricks vs AI) This thread is 5 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 · «PREV
Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2014 10:46 AM



Thank u for your awser.
Don't u think that a map made without safe and load will be to short on your famous tricks?

As a matter of fact, IMHO it's precisely the safe/load that permits to discover an imaginative tactic to win a totally unbalanced battle on an hard fixed map instead of all those trivial battle tricks that excel on early map attack for the competitive games.



Don't worry. I will use my tricks to defeat all of them without any bugs (Admiral's Hat bug, Cast & Escape trick, Chaos Hydra bug, NWCZION bug and Others). And you will see I beat this map in only 100 days.

It won't be very short because "The Lord of War" is a completely insane map. You can have a try when I haven't posted it on Youtube. Moreover, I have added something more horrible in this map.

1. I banned the hero Gem in case she can summon boat since hailed.

2. I banned the Deadman's Boot and delete all of them in the map in case that we can get the Cloak. The Deadman's Boot appeared in the valley guarded by Behemoths has been changed into Helm of Chaos (Intel+3 hat). Also, all Helm of Chaos has been banned and deleted.

3. I banned the Bowstring of the Unicorn`s Mane in case that we get the Sharpshooter's bow too early. Now we are able to get it only after we killed Queen Ashari.

4. I added a place to defeat 7*9999 Dragons, and some heroes' creatures has been increased. Some heroes are no longer in the castle.

5. I changed the special victory condition into "Bring artifact (Armageddon's Blade) to Lymbrinth (The Dungeon town on the cursed ground)", and the creature in this castle has been changed into 7*9999 Minotaur Kings, leaded by a hero.

(Final Battle: Level 59 Thorgrin with all magics, 7*9999 Minotaur Kings, Cursed Ground + Underground, 99/99/99/99, 100% Resistance, Expert Tactics, Armor of Damned, no Orb of Vulnerability).

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted April 25, 2014 01:43 AM

Richard_Chen said:
You can have a try when I haven't posted it on Youtube


The Lord of War is one of the maps I already tried more then once. I succed to beat the Heroes IV version but not this one. As I remember it took me much more then a year and the map had a thousand tricks.


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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
posted April 25, 2014 01:05 PM

Richard_Chen said:
Hello, guys! I am very sorry to be late for the video. I want to play it without any S/L and bring it in original version to you guys. It is very hard to make it, and takes much time to edit it afterwards.

Now I am working in a listed company as a CEO in Aussie, so it's a little bit busy on my job. But I will catch up with the video.

The first video will posted on Youtube by May 11. Sorry again for the delay~!

No worries, we can wait
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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted April 25, 2014 05:43 PM

bloodsucker said:
Richard_Chen said:
You can have a try when I haven't posted it on Youtube


The Lord of War is one of the maps I already tried more then once. I succed to beat the Heroes IV version but not this one. As I remember it took me much more then a year and the map had a thousand tricks.




It's a very good map for us to go through, and I have set 5 rules in my video.

1. No Cast & Escape!
2. No Liches/Power Liches in the battle
3. No Save & Load in the game!
4. No Grail!
5. Less than 200 days!

Wish you love it! (How good can you play as my rule?)

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted April 25, 2014 05:59 PM

I am not really sure what "No save and load" mean.

Example:
Some battles take awful ammount of time.
Game weeks could take real life days to be completed.
If the computer and the game is turned on 24h per day,I suppose it can be done by an outstanding player.

My imagination doesn't allow me to see how it possibly can be done without reload,but I know there are players,who do miracles in their games and achieve battle results I could be in ave at.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted April 26, 2014 12:02 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 01:54, 26 Apr 2014.

Richard_Chen said:
(How good can you play as my rule?)


Are u kidding? I stoped editing the map to cheat a few months ago and every time it becomes hard I feel tempted to do it.

I'm not in a masoquistic club.

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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted April 26, 2014 04:03 PM

master_learn said:
I am not really sure what "No save and load" mean.

Example:
Some battles take awful ammount of time.
Game weeks could take real life days to be completed.
If the computer and the game is turned on 24h per day,I suppose it can be done by an outstanding player.

My imagination doesn't allow me to see how it possibly can be done without reload,but I know there are players,who do miracles in their games and achieve battle results I could be in ave at.


Sorry, I misunderstand it. I mean I won't reload it if there is anything changed or badly happened. Maybe I will save it every 2-3 hours, but there is no reloads within the video to be posted.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted April 27, 2014 12:16 AM

Re-reading my last post I want to add that I'm implying you are masoquist, I simply lack the talent so it would be too frustrating.

Definitively if want the enemie to declare war send me to negociate peace...

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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Hired Hero
posted April 27, 2014 02:15 AM

bloodsucker said:
Re-reading my last post I want to add that I'm implying you are masoquist, I simply lack the talent so it would be too frustrating.

Definitively if want the enemie to declare war send me to negociate peace...


Haha, I don't think I am a masochistic, I just figure out that the enemies are quite simple if I find a right way to defeat them. So I just want to strengthen them to balance the level. Never mind plz^^

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relax
relax


Hired Hero
posted May 01, 2014 09:13 AM

Great videos, ty for sharing, waiting for the next ones . I'm already using your tricks in these hard custom maps.

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fred79
fred79


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted May 04, 2014 10:18 PM

hey ohfor: 100 evil eyes vs. 100 grand elves. evil eyes melee only in battle. which terrain should i test this on?


(sorry for going off-topic in the other thread, elvin)

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Kicferk
Kicferk


Known Hero
posted May 07, 2014 06:06 PM
Edited by Kicferk at 18:10, 07 May 2014.

Richard_Chen said:


Don't worry. I will use my tricks to defeat all of them without any bugs (Admiral's Hat bug, Cast & Escape trick, Chaos Hydra bug, NWCZION bug and Others). And you will see I beat this map in only 100 days.

It won't be very short because "The Lord of War" is a completely insane map. You can have a try when I haven't posted it on Youtube. Moreover, I have added something more horrible in this map.

1. I banned the hero Gem in case she can summon boat since hailed.

2. I banned the Deadman's Boot and delete all of them in the map in case that we can get the Cloak. The Deadman's Boot appeared in the valley guarded by Behemoths has been changed into Helm of Chaos (Intel+3 hat). Also, all Helm of Chaos has been banned and deleted.

3. I banned the Bowstring of the Unicorn`s Mane in case that we get the Sharpshooter's bow too early. Now we are able to get it only after we killed Queen Ashari.

4. I added a place to defeat 7*9999 Dragons, and some heroes' creatures has been increased. Some heroes are no longer in the castle.

5. I changed the special victory condition into "Bring artifact (Armageddon's Blade) to Lymbrinth (The Dungeon town on the cursed ground)", and the creature in this castle has been changed into 7*9999 Minotaur Kings, leaded by a hero.

(Final Battle: Level 59 Thorgrin with all magics, 7*9999 Minotaur Kings, Cursed Ground + Underground, 99/99/99/99, 100% Resistance, Expert Tactics, Armor of Damned, no Orb of Vulnerability).


Nice final battle, but I think it will take you entire eternity I guess you will take "ballistics", to prevent your catapult from destroying walls, block the gate and proceed just as one of your previous videos? Obviously with using some buffs and protections... Oh, if it is under 200 days then maybe you will get some of these iferno time events in which 666 devils can be hired.
Anyway, I would love to see such video walkthrough of this map
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kko
kko


Hired Hero
posted June 11, 2014 12:25 AM
Edited by kko at 04:45, 11 Jun 2014.

Love the videos and commentary. You've got some sneaky, cunning tactics there.

Any more of them planned? I found those vids very valuable and some of your tricks... I would have never thought of doing that
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scbw1234
scbw1234


Hired Hero
posted June 15, 2014 04:17 PM

firewall and force field are good ones~

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted May 03, 2018 06:03 PM

Sorry about the of topic but I want to kill a legion of azures with a bunch of Titans, Force Field and ammo cart but I'm afraid they freeze in one of the turns where I have to cast FF. Is there a trick to avoid freezing?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 03, 2018 06:31 PM

two ways, one is using an immune to freeze creature near titans, hasted/prayer, also you can cast 2 force fields, one every turn and reinforcing the second. But if they freeze twice in a row, then only 1st solution. In wog I use 1 sharpshooter.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted May 04, 2018 12:09 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 00:12, 04 May 2018.

Salamandre said:
In wog I use 1 sharpshooter.

So sharpshooters are immune to freeze? I tought it was only Lava Sharpshooters...
I have almost the same strength in Sharpshooters or can assemble it, since I have Gelu, 2 Castles and one Rampart, plus some joiners from Diplomacy. I wasn't thinking of using them cause I don't have any speed artifact but the necklace and I wanted to use the Wizards's Ring to help with the lack of spellpoints, since I don't have Intelligence.

I think I can do it other way, by cloning Archangels but I really wanted to try the FF trick.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 04, 2018 12:12 AM

Sorry my bad, lava sharps.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted May 04, 2018 03:26 AM

Did it. 1127 azures with 95 Titans, 358 Enchanters and 25 Archangels. Prims were 40/34/31/41, with Archery, Ring of the Magi and Golden Bow.
My first "expert" battle.

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