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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 10, 2017 06:44 PM
Edited by blob2 at 19:16, 10 Jul 2017.

Ah sorry it appears I misinterpreted the ability. Zombeast will not cost under 5 mana, but it's a sum of of two max 5 mana cost Beasts. So it still can cost 10 mana. That's actually a bit of a downer and makes the ability less useful if we're talking tempo. It might shine in Control though (if it will ever be a thing with Hunter)... and it's an interesting ability that will probably be fun to use. Stealth and Poisonous Huhuran anyone?

BTW: I've read aninterview on IGN with Team 5 here: http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/07/09/hearthstones-frozen-throne-everything-blizzard-would-tell-us?page=1. It has some interesting bits here and there. Maybe they're making it look more awesome then it really is but it appears they had a bit different approach this time around so the Campaign for instance might turn out really interesting (each class will have a different encounter with the final Lich King boss, art of hero as rewards for beating him for each class, introduction to the expansion etc). I'm getting more interested

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted July 10, 2017 08:05 PM

The campaign part is what I find most interesting.

I like their take on it. I like how it reminds me of adventures. Adventures is imo the most fun about Hearthstone. It encourages the player to think differently and change tactics. Not just netdecking to climb ladder.

I love the whole 9 different battles idea. Even if it is only 1 or 2 minor differences. It will just make the whole campaign feel more fresh.

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 11, 2017 08:02 PM

Freebies continue!

People datamined some stuff and it appears that we will be getting three weeks of sth called Frost Festival.

Each week there will be a free Arena run. If you complete three games in it, you will get a Frozen Throne pack. Moreover this Arena run will already have one win, so this means you'll autmatically get a tier 1 prize.

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted July 12, 2017 04:19 PM

blob2 said:

Each week there will be a free Arena run. If you complete three games in it, you will get a Frozen Throne pack. Moreover this Arena run will already have one win, so this means you'll autmatically get a tier 1 prize.


uh nice! I like arena, never play it though. This sounds great.

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blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 17, 2017 06:19 PM

Hearthstone is a fun game but they're marketing campaigns suck. The newest one with Lich King (ice scream) is just... ugh. Not my cup of tea.

They say that they're holding till 24th, cause supposedly reaserch shows that their 'succesive' reaveals are not good for the hype. Yeah. With as much free content as they're giving us I really am thinking that they just want more people to pre-order before they show what will we actually get

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted July 18, 2017 10:27 AM

1. Their marketing is different. My issue with it is not the humor. The humor is basically just Lich King Puns. My issue is the quality. I think it looks my b-movie-material. It just doesn't look good.

2. I like that they are waiting with the reveals. I do feel like the air went too fast out of the baloon with previous reveals. But I see your point. It can look like an obvious cash-grab. I don't see it like that.

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blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 18, 2017 06:21 PM
Edited by blob2 at 18:22, 18 Jul 2017.

Their marketing strategy aside they really made two crucial changes that will undoubtly keep me in this game for at least a few more months. KotFT might or might not be a great expansion, but for me the already implemented friend quests (they eliminate the frustration of completing dailies when odds are against you) and no duplicate Legendaries (opening packs without the 'fear' of getting a Legendary which you crafted just yesterday) are changes that entirely change my perspective on the game (so much less frustration). Even if they have some underlaying interests (hey, everyone wants to earn as much dough as possible ), they've kept me in this game.

I just so can't wait for the update, I'm already holding my extra Un'Goro and Classic packs (Pity Timer is high with this one).

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted July 18, 2017 09:41 PM

I cannot believe you settle with those two changes. I am impressed. I am not implying they are bad changes, they are welcome, but it is not enough to keep me interested.

Oh boy my pity timer is way over due! I have not seen a legendary in AGES! When I get the chance I really want to craft Elise Starblazer..

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 19, 2017 12:51 AM
Edited by blob2 at 00:52, 19 Jul 2017.

emilsn91 said:
I cannot believe you settle with those two changes. I am impressed. I am not implying they are bad changes, they are welcome, but it is not enough to keep me interested.


Ah yes more changes are welcome, alas I'm a total casual now - yet still a collector. Getting new cards and trying them out is a lot more interesting for me then grinding with the same deck over and over again to gain perfection with it. Especially cause Legendaries are sometimes cards you can build a deck around. But like I said, it will keep me for now, who knows how it will look after a few months.

BTW a bit more information regarding Legendaries in packs and in KotFT was released. Apparently you will get a random Hero card as a reward for the story campaign. A Legendary in first 10 packs aplies only to expansions that you didn't buy packs from before. So no Un'Goro 'bonus' Legendary in your 10th pack Also normal/golden Legendaries are treated the same in your collection (so no duplicates) and dusting a Legendary opens a possibility that you will get it once again. I feel that Lorewalker Cho will come back to me

EDIT: Your a lore fan emil. If they don't snow this expansion up, you're in for a treat!

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted July 19, 2017 04:05 PM
Edited by emilsn91 at 18:06, 19 Jul 2017.

Ahh so it is a death knight hero card you receive. Cool. I thought it was of all the legendaries in the set.

I do hope they don't screw this up. This is a sensitive expansion for many of the lore fans, I believe. I am so afraid of what could happen to Arthas. They did butcher quite a few huge characters (Illidan, Anuk'Arak )
Sindragosa.. I cannot wait!


I stumbled across this interview on Reddit.
Ben Brode interview.

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 19, 2017 07:04 PM
Edited by blob2 at 22:41, 19 Jul 2017.

Actually Anub'Arak is a good card. Its problem is that it doesn't fit into any played Rouge archetype cause it's too slow. Back in the day Deathrattle Rouge was popular and he worked there. Don't you think that it would be a good moment for him to make a comeback? He fits into the theme, Deathrattle is said to be plentiful in the expansion, and the Hero Card might actually create a new archetype if it's power will be control oriented. Maybe Lifesteal? Who knows. But yeah, I know what you mean with butchering.

But I agree, if they want to introduce Arthas into the mix, he must be a great Legendary, probably neutral. Good stats and imidiate effect. Maybe sth like 7 mana 6/6 add a Frostmourne to your hand. Frostmourne = freeze the attacked character or Lifesteal.

EDIT: So I played Arena because of the Frost Festival after so many months of pause. How can anyone even enjoy this RNG cr@p? It's an even bigger clownfest then I remember it. Mage with Elemental synergy, Paladin full of Taunts and go-face Hunter with Elemental synergy. No thanks... I'll grab my packs and never go back to this mode again.

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veco
veco


Legendary Hero
who am I?
posted July 20, 2017 03:39 PM

Try playing arena when most people are online around 17-19 before the casual players go to bed at 22 and only the tryhards remain.
It's funny how quickly you got so upset
____________
none of my business.

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 20, 2017 06:36 PM

veco said:
It's funny how quickly you got so upset


Whenever I want to get into tryhard mode in this game it hits me in the face. Guess casual is my place...

You can even read how people 'boast' about with "easiest 12 arena runs in their life" cause "so many casuals play because of the FF". Sigh...

Well it weren't such a bad run overall, 5 wins (actually 4 when you count the 'free' win) = 1 pack, 50 gold and 50 dust. It costed me nothing so I guess it's like 150-200 free gold

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Markmasters
Markmasters


Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
posted July 20, 2017 07:41 PM

I only play arena and I hope it doesn't sound arrogant but i'm sure i'm better then the average arena player....it requires more skill than ladder

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 20, 2017 09:37 PM
Edited by blob2 at 21:58, 20 Jul 2017.

Yeah Arena undenibly requires more skill then Ladder. It requires complete understanding of the game mechanics and out-of-the-ordinary prediction abilities. There's a difference between playing tried-and-true polished 'auto-pilot' deck or a patchwork Arena deck.

I don't think I'm a good Arena player by any means (though I did win a few 11s and and there was a time I went 6-7 wins on a regular basis). I also might've written my post on too big emotions (as always when I rant). But I won't back on my words that Arena is a mode where there is too big of a disonance between good draft decks and avarage draft decks. Hence I say RNG fest. There are just too many good cards that give too much value, that build a strong deck even if you have a lot of weaker/low value cards in it. The more you have the latter the better. I see that Elementals are a big problem. I thought that with Arena draft inconsistency it's hard too make them work in this mode. This test run showed me I was wrong. They're totally unbalanced in Arena. I drafted a single Fire Plume Phoenix and it was one of the stronger cards in my deck and it is not even considered a strong Elemental. My opponents had full decks of them... cards like Firefly (as an enabler), Tar Creeper or most importantly Blazecaller are cards which incredibly shift the tide of a match. My matches went good until my opponents played them. This is not balance... it's more complex then too put it in short words ofc but not when you are completly crushed and don't have any means of defending against it. At least that's my impression.

PS: Glad this thread went back to the living a bit

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blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 22, 2017 01:43 PM
Edited by blob2 at 20:05, 25 Jul 2017.

A little screen I made by chance. I think the 'Jungle Family of Dinos' theme turned out quite awesome:




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EDIT: I'm quite disappointed with recent reveals and how KotFT campaign is handled. It's not even because the expansion doesn't seem that great at this point (I haven't seen even one 'wow' card, not to mention the 'Abomination' fiasco), alas it's too early to judge, we should all wait for the full set reveal.

What I'm dissapointed in is how they handle the reveals and the expansions promotion. We've waited for 24th of July, cause they didn't want to 'extinguish the hype' like they said, yet what we are getting now is really weak! No stream, no special blog post and most importantly no release date. Sure we are getting some cards, but it all seems like it's something of a "oh look, some guy just posted this in a backwater forum somewhere..." thing. This is not how you handle one of the most imoportant and liked raids in WoW's history. The only good thing at this point are the Midsummer festivals, but those are semi-related (they wanted such events for quite some time now).

I think someone from Blizzard should think about Team 5's marketing strategies as imo they do not know what they're doing most of the time. Their humor resembles some geeky friends pack that only understands themselves, they destroy the hype with poorly picked cards (and this is not a trifle, people tend to remember things like Purify forever). And Ben Brode is their only saving grace to be honest, but this is because people like him as a personality. They are really chimeric: for all the good and fun ideas they make, there's a snowload of bad decisions: poorly executed responses for community uproars (mostly nerfing), bad design choices and 'wtf?' moments. I think Un'Goro was quite a good event for example even though I didn't watch those promo "dairies of an explorer" movies (not my style). But I was really hyped through almost the whole pre-release campaign.

This is not how I imagined it, I really hope they will surprise me in a good way still. Cause once again my hype has died down, this is how I feel atm and things like no-duplicate Legendaries won't keep me for long if the content is boring.

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted July 26, 2017 05:15 PM
Edited by emilsn91 at 17:18, 26 Jul 2017.

I would like to comment on those new revealed cards I find good or interesting. Those I do comment on is some I found boring or just plain bad.

1. Ice breaker. The idea is great! Easy to combo with frost shock. Viable? Not atm.
2. Professor Putricide. Why is this a hunter card?! Oh well. It is a pretty bad ass card. Low mana cost, fine stats, great effect (even thought it is a random secret). I can only think of one bad hunter trap (Dart trap). Great legendary.
3. Ghastly Conjurer. What I really really love about this card is that it combines a new expansion with basic cards. I find that a great .. what can I call it.. maybe just a red line across the various sets. That said it is a great card. Probably not the best card, but a solid addition to control typed decks.

JUST IN
4. Sindragosa. Imba legendary. I might overreact now but that is an instant craft!

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blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 26, 2017 06:43 PM
Edited by blob2 at 19:10, 26 Jul 2017.

emilsn91 said:

2. Professor Putricide. Why is this a hunter card?! Oh well. It is a pretty bad ass card. Low mana cost, fine stats, great effect (even thought it is a random secret). I can only think of one bad hunter trap (Dart trap). Great legendary.


I think it's because of Hunters Hero Card theme. His hero power is 'create a Frankenstein monster beast' and Putricide is a crazy scientist But yeah solid card. Good stats and a nice turn 6 play,


emilsn91 said:
JUST IN
4. Sindragosa. Imba legendary. I might overreact now but that is an instant craft!






She's incredible. The only thing that makes her not completly bonkers is that she isn't a Neutral card but a Mage one (balance if nothing else). She might also be too slow, but on paper everything is great about her: stats, not costing 10 mana (which still makes it possible to play her tokens on turn 10), incredible value with Spiritsinger Umbra (finally playable?), and she's a friggin Dragon! Mage never was either a Dragon class nor a Deathrattle class (aside from some occasional N'Zoth experiments). She might create something new And like you say emil, first insta craft. Good thing is you can now craft every Legendary without the risk of you getting teh same one in the next pack!

PS: I wonder why no Freeze effect? I thought of her as a potential Mage Legendary but I was thinking about a Freeze connection.

PS 2: The 'Icecrown Tours Part 1' blog entry is pretty funny: Putricide typing "Good news, everyone! (which is a clear reference to Profesor Farnsworth from Futurama) takes the cake

EDIT: Some more cards revealed by Blizzard. Interesting thing about that Coldwraith: it reads "If an enemy is Frozen...". Sindragossa text reads "Summon two 0/1 Frozen Champions". That probably means those will have a Freeze effect on them when played so that might mean some synergies maybe?

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Ereinion156
Ereinion156


Adventuring Hero
posted July 26, 2017 09:09 PM

blob2 said:

not costing 10 mana (which still makes it possible to play her tokens on turn 10)


But you do not even have to play the frozen champions!! It says summon!That's the really strong (maybe OP) part of it. You only need to ping the champions, which shouldn't be hard as a mage.

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted July 26, 2017 09:44 PM
Edited by blob2 at 19:31, 27 Jul 2017.

Ereinion156 said:
blob2 said:

not costing 10 mana (which still makes it possible to play her tokens on turn 10)


But you do not even have to play the frozen champions!! It says summon!That's the really strong (maybe OP) part of it. You only need to ping the champions, which shouldn't be hard as a mage.


Yeah, you're right! I don't know why I didn't notice this. That's cool, although in this case you need to have Umbra on board to trigger the effect. At least I hope it works, cause I don't know if summon means 'you summon' or Sindragossa summons. That would mean it won't trigger Umbras effect. Still, Sin looks like a great card, I really hope she will be a playable Legendary (cause many costly Legendaries that looked good on paper like Varian didn't work ultimately).

Meanwhile Shamans getting a card that makes the axe weapon seem a bit more useful: Vodoo Hexxer: 2/7 Taunt for 5 mana that freezes any character it damages. Nice! A Taunt which freezes (and has high health to boot) might be staple even. It's the ultimate Taunt! Oh wait it's a sister card of Alley Armorsmith!

BTW this expansion has some really cool art!

EDIT: Card reveal livestream Friday, July 28th at 11 AM PDT (2 PM EDT, 8 PM CEST)

EDIT 2: This is impossible, how can I be so unlucky in Arena... Lost one game cause Firelands Portal summoned me a Bomb Squad. I would somehow recover (even though I didn't draw that Ice Block) but that 5 Deathrattle dmg was enough for lethal. Next game lost with a mediocre Priest deck that literally had nothing, so he Thoughtsteal'ed my Cabalist Tome. Got two more CT from it, 2x Meteor, bunch of Secrets etc. Third game guy gets a Gorehowl from Malkorok. And yes I listened to your advice @veco and played in the so-called noob window between 17-19 for "eazee wins". Yeah.

Please tell me how can I not be negative about this...

This must be one of my favorite fan created cards


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