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RMZ1989
RMZ1989


Supreme Hero
posted May 21, 2014 12:21 PM

DoubleDeck said:
Elvin said:
I ****ing love Ignatius Aggressive and fun.

And you don't need any creatures either!

@Stevie: what is your uPlay name?
If you're using Seria, try incorporate 4 x banshees, 4 x Seria's last order and the unique Seria's legion, which will be a 4/4/4 build. You only go up to Soul Reaver in spells. It is highly efficient and one of the top decks (in standard)...once you recurse those lovely banshees, you won't be needing enthrall

From my experience, 4x Seria's Last order isn't worth it at all. It costs too much and it banishes the creature after, 1-2 are fine but if you play 4 of them, you get them in your hand way too early and they are just like dead cards before Banshees.
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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted May 21, 2014 08:15 PM

From Facebook:

"The Banshee Alternate art card is on sale in the Shop for 250 seals! It’s time to add this Unique alternate to your deck!"
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted May 21, 2014 08:28 PM

Pretty ugly.
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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted May 21, 2014 08:35 PM

Elvin, when you have some time, can you please make me some decks with some heroes I got? I have no clue how academy, haven and inferno work.

Plis?

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RMZ1989
RMZ1989


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posted May 21, 2014 09:08 PM

Stevie said:
Elvin, when you have some time, can you please make me some decks with some heroes I got? I have no clue how academy, haven and inferno work.

Plis?

Inferno rushes are easy to make, and on low level can work wonders, but Academy and Haven pretty much need good cards for them to be consistent.
So I guess you will play Inferno.

Also, when you said Elvin, did you mean me or other Elvin?
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DoubleDeck
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posted May 21, 2014 09:36 PM

Stevie said:
Elvin, when you have some time, can you please make me some decks with some heroes I got? I have no clue how academy, haven and inferno work.

Plis?

What Inferno hero have you got?
Inferno is the best faction (in my opinion) to climb up for beginners...Xorm rush gets you quickly up!

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RMZ1989
RMZ1989


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posted May 21, 2014 09:43 PM

DoubleDeck said:
Stevie said:
Elvin, when you have some time, can you please make me some decks with some heroes I got? I have no clue how academy, haven and inferno work.

Plis?

What Inferno hero have you got?
Inferno is the best faction, period!

There, fixed that for ya!

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted May 21, 2014 10:23 PM
Edited by Stevie at 22:24, 21 May 2014.

Got Dhamiria and Kal-Azaar inferno heroes.

AND! By some miracle, I ended up dueling an 198 level behemoth of a player and I valiantly won!






Special thanks to poly

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DoubleDeck
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posted May 21, 2014 10:42 PM

Nice Stevie! You don't need anyone's help, you seem to be doing just fine!

So, Emp and I have been debating how the MMR and progression points are linked to your ELO, so I tested it.

Won a duel : 1468 ELO : Progression 18% (to get to Champion III)
Won a duel : 1488 ELO : Progression 21%
Won a duel : 1500 ELO : Progression 26%
Lost a duel : 1518 ELO : Progression 22%

Okay this is where I stop and think....no point trying to figure this out!!! The duel I lost was also to someone with less ELO at 1480...so not sure why my ELO increased with the loss!

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watcher83
watcher83


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Child of Malassa
posted May 22, 2014 07:10 AM

DD yesterday at a point I had a 20 win streak with Myranda and still I was only at 30%, I give up on getting to champ III because I cannot win all games, and it's not fair. e.g. won a game against allyofjustice ( u know, he was the first player to dethrone al-kazaar) and my progression went up 1%, then I wanted to get 20 wins with charity, and after 4 wins and 5 losses I got -11% progression; this is just insane and not fair; I cannot win 200 games in a row just so I can get to champ III again so I can experiment again.
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DoubleDeck
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posted May 22, 2014 08:08 AM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 08:09, 22 May 2014.

@Watcher: I hear you and it's difficult which is good. Champ III was too easy previously.

My purpose is just to figure out at what ELO one is to get Champ III.
And actually, I just realised that MMDocking replays shows your ELO going into the duel, not after.

So actually:

1488 ELO : Progression 18%
1500 ELO : Progression 22% (up 4%)
1518 ELO : Progression 26% (up 4%)
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???? ELO : Progression 100%

Mathematical calculation:

Progression went up 4% both times but ELO increase was different.
(100% - 26%) / 4% = approx 19 times

1500 - 1488 = 12
1518 - 1500 = 18
(18-12) / 18 = 0.33
18 x 0.33 x 19 = 113

ELO would be 1518 + 113 = 1631 ELO to get to Champ III.

I don't know, my mathematics could be flawed

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watcher83
watcher83


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Child of Malassa
posted May 22, 2014 08:42 AM

I do not mind the new league system, but since I was 1500+ and after last reset I'm pretty sure I wasn't anymore I would like to know the reasoning behind it, since I never lost that many games in a row to explain the elo drop.
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RedEmperor30
RedEmperor30


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posted May 22, 2014 09:00 AM

DoubleDeck said:
Nice Stevie! You don't need anyone's help, you seem to be doing just fine!

So, Emp and I have been debating how the MMR and progression points are linked to your ELO, so I tested it.

Won a duel : 1468 ELO : Progression 18% (to get to Champion III)
Won a duel : 1488 ELO : Progression 21%
Won a duel : 1500 ELO : Progression 26%
Lost a duel : 1518 ELO : Progression 22%

Okay this is where I stop and think....no point trying to figure this out!!! The duel I lost was also to someone with less ELO at 1480...so not sure why my ELO increased with the loss!


Surprisingly enough both Elvin and i think DJ [may be mistaken] have both said when they lost a battle they actually were promoted up a rank???

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Elvin
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Endless Revival
posted May 22, 2014 09:29 AM

No, when I lost I dropped to 97%. I had to reach 100% and win the next game.
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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 22, 2014 09:45 AM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 13:35, 22 May 2014.

I think I actually was. From Champ 1 to Champ 2

I as well gave up on any progress.
I had aprox 500 points.. PLayed few swiss ended with more then 1100! points. Then played Inf. and Haven for DQ and bam.. lost 400 points in on day

My champ 3 progression is 0% for long time. So I jus play for Dayly quests. Achievements and I'm rather OK with Champ 2¨

What I'm not OK with is the tournametn cycle. Come one. if I'm lucky I encounter 1 Standard Swiss a week.. this sucks. Swiss is my favorite format.
I see mostly weekly format that I dislike more then open. And On tom I got 2 swiss  related DQ, so if I like it or not it looks like I'll just  have to make one. Since playing open is no fun in swiss :-(.

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RedEmperor30
RedEmperor30


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posted May 22, 2014 12:46 PM

shot watcher for the games today, was awesome to play against some open hero's - although i know if you played your uniques my std ari and hak would be obliterated!!!

refreshing to face most of your heroes ^^

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DoubleDeck
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posted May 22, 2014 01:12 PM

Dave_Jame said:
What I'm not OKwith is the tournamen Cicle. Come one. if I'm lucky I encounter 1 Standard Swiss a week.. this sucks. Swiss is my favorite format.
I see mostly weekly format that I dislike more then open. And On tom I got 2 swiss  related DQ, so if I like it or not it looks like I'll just  have to make one. Since playing open is no fun in swiss :-(.

Completely agree with this DJ. The thing is, one should be able to play a standard tournament from swiss or JP both in one day.

@RedEmp: Also not sure why promotion happens after losing a battle when one is 100%, but check my other mathematical workings above, I was mistaken....MMDocking's replay's show ELO before the duel....so I corrected above....1631 ELO for Champ III predicted.

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RedEmperor30
RedEmperor30


Famous Hero
posted May 22, 2014 01:22 PM

wouldnt it be amazing if you as a player could choose std, weekly or open as initial selection, which then takes you through to, ladder, jp or swiss - oh dreams!!!

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted May 22, 2014 01:26 PM
Edited by watcher83 at 13:28, 22 May 2014.

RedEmperor30 said:
shot watcher for the games today, was awesome to play against some open hero's - although i know if you played your uniques my std ari and hak would be obliterated!!!

refreshing to face most of your heroes ^^


anytime man, my pleasure; also what I found out during those very entertaining games is that a bad deck is a bad deck no matter the format, my Kenage and Phrias come to mind, although won a swiss with kenage today but that doesn't say much.

I agree with DJ also, had to wait 3 days to complete my 3 swiss daily quests, since open was only today.
How can I see my elo? I would love to know.
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The_Polyglot
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Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
posted May 22, 2014 01:29 PM

Replay manager still displays a number which may or may not be your MMR, aka ELO.
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