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Heroes Community > Heroes 7 - Falcon's Last Flight > Thread: Battle of the Bluebirds - The Phoenix / Magic Bird issue
Thread: Battle of the Bluebirds - The Phoenix / Magic Bird issue This thread is 6 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 · «PREV / NEXT»
Ehlesgens
Ehlesgens

Tavern Dweller
posted September 20, 2014 10:19 AM
Edited by Ehlesgens at 10:20, 20 Sep 2014.

I don't see that much similarities aside from birds with blue-ish color scheme ...
The Magic Bird is more perrot-like and egypt inspired, with many shades of blue (of actual, vibrant blue)
whereas the phoenix seems more peacock-like to me, with a much less blue color scheme (I'd say he's predominantly white) and no apparent real life inspiration (civilization wise)and in lore, they're not similar either.
But I have to say I was surprised to read that the phoenix is a Light aligned creature, I thought he was more Order aligned (with him being a servant (?) of Asha/the representation of her rebirth aspect in his h6 description, iirc).
I just wish they drew more inspiration from the NWC H5 phoenix, because it is gorgeous

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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


Supreme Hero
posted September 20, 2014 10:40 AM

Well at first everyone said how fury is full of humanoids and how similar pixie and dryad were and then it was said that they are not so similar, no one cared. And now we are debating that the blue birds are not that similar? You gotta be kidding me. The are extremely similar and everything screams that phoenix does not simply belong in sylvan.
As for retconing we could retcon everything,even demons in sanctuary, but we don't have to do that,do we?
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted September 20, 2014 12:28 PM

jhb said:
I also agree that this would be ideal. And you can be 200% sure that phoenix will be in the game, they were in EVERY single HoMM game.


well, who would have thought unicorns wouldn't be in H6? and hydras? and minotaurs barely made it in.

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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posted September 20, 2014 02:17 PM

Ehlesgens said:
I just wish they drew more inspiration from the NWC H5 phoenix, because it is gorgeous

Hear, hear!



Just beautiful
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Doomhammer
Doomhammer


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posted September 20, 2014 02:27 PM

^^ Yeah it's hard to beat that, that's what you think of when someone says phoenix

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adriancat
adriancat


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posted September 20, 2014 03:23 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Ehlesgens said:
I just wish they drew more inspiration from the NWC H5 phoenix, because it is gorgeous

Hear, hear!



Just beautiful


This is majestic indeed. But that damn blue chicken isn't . Goooo FURY !!!

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 20, 2014 04:34 PM

adriancat said:
But that damn blue chicken isn't . Goooo FURY !!!

Check again, we get golden/blazing red phoenix upgrade
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hammerhand
hammerhand


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posted September 20, 2014 04:49 PM

Elvin said:
adriancat said:
But that damn blue chicken isn't . Goooo FURY !!!

Check again, we get golden/blazing red phoenix upgrade

some people hate chicken,  not blue.

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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


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posted September 20, 2014 04:54 PM

Elvin said:

Check again, we get golden/blazing red phoenix upgrade




blazing you say...
mostly kidding here

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jhb
jhb


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posted September 20, 2014 04:57 PM

Fauch said:
jhb said:
I also agree that this would be ideal. And you can be 200% sure that phoenix will be in the game, they were in EVERY single HoMM game.


well, who would have thought unicorns wouldn't be in H6? and hydras? and minotaurs barely made it in.


But unicorns, hydras and minotaurs are a different story, they are tied to a faction. Phoenix is not. ^^

And minotaurs were there.

I still prefer phoenix as a strongh summoning spell (Heroes V style)

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hammerhand
hammerhand


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posted September 20, 2014 04:58 PM

ChrisD1 said:
Elvin said:

Check again, we get golden/blazing red phoenix upgrade




blazing you say...
mostly kidding here

check this


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Royin
Royin


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posted September 20, 2014 05:07 PM



All this pushing and pulling of the Phoenix makes him sad :<

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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


Supreme Hero
posted September 20, 2014 05:12 PM

Royin said:


All this pushing and pulling of the Phoenix makes him sad :<


His tears are a healing elixir! GRAB THAT BIRD NOW!!!!!

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adriancat
adriancat


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Protector Of The Peace
posted September 20, 2014 07:27 PM

Elvin said:
adriancat said:
But that damn blue chicken isn't . Goooo FURY !!!

Check again, we get golden/blazing red phoenix upgrade


Blue Chicken, Red Chicken, Yellow Chicken . It's still a chicken

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 20, 2014 07:57 PM

adriancat said:
Blue Chicken, Red Chicken, Yellow Chicken . I still can't see straight

Fixed.
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Sorts
Sorts


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posted September 20, 2014 07:58 PM

adriancat said:
Elvin said:
adriancat said:
But that damn blue chicken isn't . Goooo FURY !!!

Check again, we get golden/blazing red phoenix upgrade


Blue Chicken, Red Chicken, Yellow Chicken . It's still a chicken


So overgrown goats who are upgraded to a different gender and some skimpy clothed elf boys are better?

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alex_yakub
alex_yakub


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posted September 20, 2014 08:01 PM
Edited by alex_yakub at 20:01, 20 Sep 2014.

Sorts said:
adriancat said:
Elvin said:
adriancat said:
But that damn blue chicken isn't . Goooo FURY !!!

Check again, we get golden/blazing red phoenix upgrade


Blue Chicken, Red Chicken, Yellow Chicken . It's still a chicken


So overgrown goats who are upgraded to a different gender and some skimpy clothed elf boys are better?

And don't forget two defensive champions in a SO TOTALY OFFENSIVE LINEUP. Also, five humanoids in a row.

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DarkLord
DarkLord


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Fear me..
posted September 20, 2014 08:34 PM

why ? just why Phoenix is not academy champion instead of magic bird???

that would have put everything in the right place

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SepSpring
SepSpring


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posted September 21, 2014 01:11 AM

Quote:
what do you think - is Phoenix and Magic Bird too similar

They have some similarities in terms of appearance, of course. But for me their abilities and specialities are the key point. They're not revealed yet, so I think it's too early to state that these creatures are similar.

Quote:
If Phoenix gets voted in, should developers find another champion for Academy instead of Magic Bird?

I don't like the idea of this Magic Bird at all. Sylvan Phoenix symbolising the natural change of seasons is OK for me. But Academy could definitely have a more interesting alternative Champion like Dragon Golem or Sphinx, IMO.

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yogi
yogi


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Famous Hero
of picnics
posted September 21, 2014 01:32 AM

SepSpring said:
or Sphinx


ooh cool idea!

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