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War-overlord
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posted September 24, 2014 02:10 PM

Stevie said:
I think we can survive one Heroes without it as a Champion.

We already did.
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Steyn
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posted September 24, 2014 02:12 PM

What is a Black Knight? Is it:
A: An evil knight
B: An animated knight (skeleton or zombie)
C: An empty suit of armour
D: A vampire knight
or
E: something else

And what makes a Black Knight different from a Death Knight (hero class)?

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LizardWarrior
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posted September 24, 2014 02:14 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 14:19, 24 Sep 2014.

Steyn said:

A: An evil knight
B: An animated knight (skeleton or zombie)
C: An empty suit of armour
D: A vampire knight
or
E: something else



The mystery adds immersion and makes it more interesting, it's better to don't know what hides behind that suit of armor. That's why I didn't like the vampiric nature of h5 knight

Steyn said:


And what makes a Black Knight different from a Death Knight (hero class)?


Death knights are knights resurrected as liches. While they maintain their former martial leanings, their new forms open them more freely to the learning of magic. Death knights wear the tattered and rusting armor they were buried in.

Yeah, they were quite similar

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RMZ1989
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posted September 24, 2014 02:17 PM

Stevie said:
Galaad said:

Stevie said:
The creature I want the most is Death/Reaper as Champion.

I would find it pretty awesome to have Death Reaper as a Champion, fits much more than Fate Weaver imo lol.


Yea. Even though I like the Fate Weaver, but it's not at the top of my champion list. Dread Knight and Reaper are. Was never that fond of Bone Dragon, I think we can survive one Heroes without it as a Champion.

And we had one Heroes without it, H6.

But seriously, if they don't plan to do something amazing with Bone Dragons, we are better off without them. Their design, stats and abilities are so... uninspiring that I've skipped them in H5 most of the time. Literally I would get them so late that they would be there just to reduce moral of enemy stacks... they would be useless for fighting/tanking.

Now that we have 2 Champions, if they don't design them well enough I can't see myself ever building them.
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War-overlord
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posted September 24, 2014 02:19 PM

They were Vampire Knights in HeroesV and DMoMM. In all other incarnations it's not known.

However, I have many times said that Empty/Haunted Armours should be creatures in their own right and be different from Black Knights.
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Stevie
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posted September 24, 2014 02:21 PM
Edited by Stevie at 14:21, 24 Sep 2014.

We had a discussion about Angel heroes. Why couldn't a Death Knight assume hero role? If you do it a good bio description, I think it could work. Same with Lich and Vampire, I totally see them as hero classes. Remember Heroes 3?

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War-overlord
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posted September 24, 2014 02:23 PM

Stevie said:
Same with Lich and Vampire, I totally see them as hero classes. Remember Heroes 3?
They weren't classes back then. They were different forms of undeath, and some heroes fell into the category of Liches and others into Vampires. However the Death Knight class and Necromancer class both had a fairly even distribution of Humans, Vampires and Liches.
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LizardWarrior
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posted September 24, 2014 02:23 PM

Stevie said:
We had a discussion about Angel heroes. Why couldn't a Death Knight assume hero role? If you do it a good bio description, I think it could work. Same with Lich and Vampire, I totally see them as hero classes. Remember Heroes 3?


In h2, h3, h4 we had: vampire heroes, skeleton=lich heroes, zombie heroes and human heroes. Then in h5 they had some "vampires", 1 lich and 1 zombie, then H6 they went full haven

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posted September 24, 2014 03:12 PM

LizardWarrior said:
then H6 they went full haven


Never go full Haven. I feel not even Haven should go full Haven.

If I had to choose, I'd like H3 the most (I enjoy seeing Nosferatu-like vampires) but I however do not like H2/H4 vampires. I can see the appeal of the "blah", but that just seems campy. I'd like my Heroes games to be a bit of seriousness, but not overly so. I feel like if the H5 Vampires had some idle animation where they "clean" their blade and consume the blood on it, they would be the best form. As for bat/teleportation, I'd rather them becoming a swarm of bats that reform into a Vampire at their destination.

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hammerhand
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posted September 24, 2014 04:35 PM
Edited by hammerhand at 16:37, 24 Sep 2014.

weapon can be use to injury enemies so they can't resist vampire biting£¬so weapon is useful.

but armor is not necessary. vampires should fade and dodge£¬not stand still and get hit.

I think vampire warrior should wear light leather armor or no armor£¬fight like assassin.

we already have black knight/death knight£¬ don't need another copycat

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TDL
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posted September 24, 2014 05:07 PM

Vampires should be like in H4, but should conform to the style of the town. They should be majestic Draculas with their effing vampiric life drain, not sword mashing elder-scrolls-wannabes.
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posted September 24, 2014 05:23 PM

TDL said:
Vampires should be like in H4, but should conform to the style of the town. They should be majestic Draculas with their effing vampiric life drain, not sword mashing elder-scrolls-wannabes.


+1 couldn't agree more.

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yogi
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posted September 24, 2014 06:13 PM

Galaad said:

I would find it pretty awesome to have Death Reaper as a Champion


me too

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ChrisD1
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posted September 24, 2014 06:14 PM

PLOT TWIST!!
Female vampires!
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LizardWarrior
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posted September 24, 2014 06:19 PM

ChrisD1 said:
PLOT TWIST!!
Female vampires!


Jeremiah would get a heart attack

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EPICUSDOOMICUS
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posted September 24, 2014 07:11 PM

ChrisD1 said:
PLOT TWIST!!
Female vampires!

Aha!! Combined with the succubi...
Also bring back blood sisters, female H5 shamans, female seraphs...Am I forgetting some unit?...and all of them armorless!! How much kinkier a game that would be
I'm just kidding. If implemented the right way, a female vamp could be ok. It depends on design, abilities (apart from life drain which I presume is essential) and getting it to fit the rest of the Necro lineup.
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yogi
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posted September 24, 2014 08:24 PM

ChrisD1 said:
PLOT TWIST!!
Female vampires!


yes!

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Elvin
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posted September 24, 2014 10:10 PM

ChrisD1 said:
PLOT TWIST!!
Female vampires!

Age of wonders 2 female vampires were awesome with life drain and seduction


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LizardWarrior
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posted September 24, 2014 10:14 PM

You want female vampires? Don't worry my country has something similar, yet very original

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Samca is a character in Romanian legends, a very ugly and scary evil spirit: she most commonly takes the appearance of a naked woman with disheveled hair growing down to her heels, with dried out breasts that touch the ground, with small eyes that shine as brightly as the stars, with iron hands and long nails sharp as knitting needles or hooked as sickles and a tongue of fire.

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Storm-Giant
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posted September 24, 2014 10:17 PM

ChrisD1 said:
PLOT TWIST!!
Female vampires!

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YES PLEASE
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