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War-overlord
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posted October 02, 2014 09:41 PM |
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Given they are Dragons and how big the lore is on them, they likely will be in every line-up.
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DarkLord
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posted October 02, 2014 09:42 PM |
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xerox said:
So ended up voting for Inferno for the time being. I didn't like H6 Inferno but I feel like people are probably not going to vote for Maniacs, Breeders and Tormentors. Rather, Nightmares, Efreets, Pit Lords and Devils have a better chance of getting in and I love those creatures. Fans will just end up voting for whatever line-up that has the Black Dragon, though if they're smart, they'll includee it in every line-up.
or they will do it the same way it happened with sylvan
split creatures like nightmares, efreets and devils into different line ups, so you will end up voting for line up you dont actually like that much, but thats better than the rest
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xerox
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posted October 02, 2014 09:45 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 21:46, 02 Oct 2014.
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that's a good point...
there's probably a higher risk of Inferno getting into a direction I dislike than Dungeon... The Dungeon faction has never been my favourite, but I've never hated it either. I hated Infernopolis in H4 and three of the creatures in H6 (Maniac, Tormentor, Breeder). H5 was my favourite Inferno. The H5 Pit Lord is imo one of the best and coolest creatres in the series.
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SepSpring
Known Hero
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posted October 02, 2014 09:53 PM |
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Undoubtedly Dungeon. Inferno is among the factions which I'm bored with.
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Dwarfurious
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 02, 2014 09:59 PM |
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Called it last month. Purple Sylvan will win, and we'll have no Fire faction. Way too much nostalgia at play here.
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jhb
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posted October 02, 2014 10:01 PM |
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Edited by jhb at 22:11, 02 Oct 2014.
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Hard decision, but I voted for inferno, for now.
2 elven factions might be an overkill for an initial release.
Edit: It might also be a good opportunity to see some different story without the bloodmoon eclipse.
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xerox
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posted October 02, 2014 10:20 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 22:24, 02 Oct 2014.
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I'm hoping for:
Dungeon
Core: Assassin, Beholder, Kobalos (essentially kobolds, with the original, greek name)
Elite: Minotaur, Gorgon (H4-style Medusa), Fury (I'm imagining sort of a hybrid between a Dark elf woman/black dragon/harpy, the idea is that they are ascended servants of Malassa)
Champion: Hydra, Faceless
The Manticore could also be replaced by, or upgraded into, a Chimaera.
or Inferno
Core: Hellworm, Cerberus, Incubus (guess why lol)
Elite: Nephilim (fallen, demonic angels), Nightmare, Efreet
Champion: Devil, Pit Lord (more like the spellcasting H5-version)
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Pawek_13
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Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted October 02, 2014 10:38 PM |
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xerox said:
Elite: Minotaur, Gorgon (H4-style Medusa), Fury (I'm imagining sort of a hybrid between a Dark elf woman/black dragon/harpy, the idea is that they are ascended servants of Malassa)
Champion: Hydra, Faceless
No dragons? Well, that would be interesting... As I have stated before, there were no transitions of units between factions so Medusa will stay in Sanctuary.
In my opinion hydras should be in Elite, while dragons with faceless are champions. The latter ones should have equal position to Angels, I must agree on that.
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OhforfSake
Promising
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Initiate
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posted October 02, 2014 10:40 PM |
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@Xerox
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted October 02, 2014 10:41 PM |
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xerox said:
I'm hoping for:
Dungeon
Core: Assassin, Beholder, Kobalos (essentially kobolds, with the original, greek name)
Elite: Minotaur, Gorgon (H4-style Medusa), Fury (I'm imagining sort of a hybrid between a Dark elf woman/black dragon/harpy, the idea is that they are ascended servants of Malassa)
Champion: Hydra, Faceless
The Manticore could also be replaced by, or upgraded into, a Chimaera.
or Inferno
Core: Hellworm, Cerberus, Incubus (guess why lol)
Elite: Nephilim (fallen, demonic angels), Nightmare, Efreet
Champion: Devil, Pit Lord (more like the spellcasting H5-version)
minotaur and bull with scales?(i refuse to call it gorgon because of this)
minotaur and manticore and some elf/witch would be nice!
as for the core line up i'd rather see the kobold as a replacement for the assasin (make it blind and maybe it will come off a troglodyte?), and some other creature to fill up the empty seat, like a mini darkness elemental?
for the champion i'd go full with the faceless. times change,nostalgia is overrated.
putting faceless as an elite was like seeing the seraph as an elite. no thanks.
nephilim was a good idea
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lokdron
Famous Hero
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posted October 02, 2014 10:51 PM |
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Edited by lokdron at 22:55, 02 Oct 2014.
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Eh we are doing a lot better than dwarves it will take a miracle to get more votes. Since we have to contend with notalgia and black dragons.
Plus the fact that no read's what the spy master says and saying inferno will make no sense on the council! Oh dear.
Well if inferno loses I am just going to murder them again and again on H6 and H5. That's how I will handle my butthurt.
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jackson
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Random Spirit Lover
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posted October 02, 2014 10:56 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
As I have stated before, there were no transitions of units between factions so Medusa will stay in Sanctuary.
Ubi might be a lot more resistant to unit swapping, but that doesn't mean they would never do it. Besides, technically, Medusa being in Dungeon wouldn't be changing factions because it was the Coral Priestess, not Medusa, in Sanctuary, right? I mean, am I missing a part of the lore wherein it says "this Naga is a Medusa"? The Coral Priestess was clearly intended as a replacement to Medusa, but as far as I know, technically, Medusa has yet to be introduced in Ashan.
Having said that, I think what's more significant in why we're unlikely to see the return of Medusa is that it would be considered too similar to the Naga... I was playing around with the idea of having Echidna as one of Dungeon's champions, and making her a spell caster, but was discouraged because I figured she, too, would be considered too similar to the Naga.
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted October 02, 2014 10:56 PM |
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56% vs 44%
Dare I hope there is some chance left or just wishfull thinking? ...
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lokdron
Famous Hero
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posted October 02, 2014 11:08 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
56% vs 44%
Dare I hope there is some chance left or just wishfull thinking? ...
I think the information they will release on the factions in the coming few days would either make or break inferno. Comes on urgash! Turn luck and destiny to our favor already.
Still I am most curious what the inferno story will be.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 02, 2014 11:09 PM |
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jackson said:
Ubi might be a lot more resistant to unit swapping, but that doesn't mean they would never do it. Besides, technically, Medusa being in Dungeon wouldn't be changing factions because it was the Coral Priestess, not Medusa, in Sanctuary, right? I mean, am I missing a part of the lore wherein it says "this Naga is a Medusa"? The Coral Priestess was clearly intended as a replacement to Medusa, but as far as I know, technically, Medusa has yet to be introduced in Ashan.
Naga that are part of the Cult of the Wrecker are called Medusa. The Cult of the Wrecker worships the destructive side of Water and Shalassa and wish to flood the world.
Coral Priestesses were supposed to play the Medusa roll to some extent, but according to the lore, all Female Naga have Snake hair, but some snakes are so small that they appear as normal hair.
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DarkLord
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posted October 02, 2014 11:14 PM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 23:24, 02 Oct 2014.
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here is solution to put Medusa in dungeon line up/..
just make it HoMM4 style, mean doesnt have to be a snake-like
but must keep the abilities to turn into stone
as for name, call it gorgon , or whatever not to contradict the lore
or they choose to side up with malassa / darkness
as for Dungeon faction itself, it shouldnt be solely focused on dark elves
as dungeon faction is about races siding up with darkness
thus doesnt mean it only have to be dark elves, there are faceless as elite race already, and many creatures can be associated with shadows as well, there is a room for possibilities if developers choose to not limit themselves
Inferno from the other side is made of demons and half demons(incubus/succubus). from the bright side demons can be by all size and shapes, however they will remain demons with no other purpose than be a re-usable recourse in battle, with no personal desires and intentions other than destroy everything around
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blizz
Known Hero
of temper grace
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posted October 02, 2014 11:18 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Coral Priestesses were supposed to play the Medusa roll to some extent, but according to the lore, all Female Naga have Snake hair, but some snakes are so small that they appear as normal hair.
I have to say Coral Priestess was a very poor take on medusa. If Sanctuary returns in H7 through expansion I would personally replace one of the boring spirits with an ice naga witch that could freeze with her sight.
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jackson
Known Hero
Random Spirit Lover
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posted October 02, 2014 11:23 PM |
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War-overlord said:
jackson said:
Ubi might be a lot more resistant to unit swapping, but that doesn't mean they would never do it. Besides, technically, Medusa being in Dungeon wouldn't be changing factions because it was the Coral Priestess, not Medusa, in Sanctuary, right? I mean, am I missing a part of the lore wherein it says "this Naga is a Medusa"? The Coral Priestess was clearly intended as a replacement to Medusa, but as far as I know, technically, Medusa has yet to be introduced in Ashan.
Naga that are part of the Cult of the Wrecker are called Medusa. The Cult of the Wrecker worships the destructive side of Water and Shalassa and wish to flood the world.
Coral Priestesses were supposed to play the Medusa roll to some extent, but according to the lore, all Female Naga have Snake hair, but some snakes are so small that they appear as normal hair.
Aw, thank you for clearing that up. I've never been an expert on Ashan lore.
...in my opinion, Ubi really messed up with that one...
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 02, 2014 11:29 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
56% vs 44%
Dare I hope there is some chance left or just wishfull thinking? ...
With enough posting, upvoting and propaganda, anything is possible 
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted October 02, 2014 11:30 PM |
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There would be a pretty good reason for having Medusae in the Dungeon line-up actually. Remember those renegade Nagas Raelag defeated in Shades of Darkness?
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