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orzie
orzie


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Reinventing the Steel
posted November 23, 2014 09:41 AM

But the Project rank will be lost in this case, won't it? I'm kinda new to HC organization to be honest.

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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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Age of erwins is over
posted November 23, 2014 10:45 AM

So far so good, edited the first post a couple of times and it works smoothly.

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Stevie
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posted November 23, 2014 11:07 AM

This is a good solution. Editing can be turned on and off and a copy of the edited text gets saved as a failsafe measure. I don't see how this can fail aside from technicalities. Good job Val, we really appreciate you upgrading the forums

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OhforfSake
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posted November 23, 2014 11:16 AM

Yes. Thank you Val, it's very much appreciated.

Corribus said:
Such as a specialized graphic in one of the far left columns?


Good idea.
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Valeriy
Valeriy

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posted November 23, 2014 11:45 AM
Edited by Valeriy at 11:58, 23 Nov 2014.

You're welcome, guys. Good on you for suggesting constructive ideas - you've helped me to design this solution I think we have a much better balance now between useability and protection.

It seems that everything is working - rating, editing, and backup files are generating. Feel free to flood Corribus with project rating requests

About highlighting a thread with project rating - it would only signify that the thread is a long-term project thread that is likely being kept up to date. You can use a filter to find all of them - in the middle of green bar on forum display page (choose "rated project"). Why do you think we need to highlight project threads more than this? I suppose one easy way to highlight them would be to make the "project" rating show up in bold font.

EDIT: another tweak - made it so that only moderators can re-rate a thread that is rated 'project' - to avoid accidental (or even deliberate ) removal of project rating by high QP users.
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bloodsucker
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posted November 23, 2014 12:29 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 23:04, 23 Nov 2014.

Valeriy said:
Why do you think we need to highlight project threads more than this?


I don't, even the search for project seems cool but meaningless to me. It was absolutly necessary to have a way of edit the older threads with an active first page but this could (not should) perfectly be done in a need to know base, the only persons who need to be aware of this rate are the specific project modders and moderators.
Why would users need to know that now every time a link drops dead in the "60 mods for Era" main page it can be refreshed? They only need to know the link is working again, I guess. But they will notice the difference when posts with 20 or more links no longer appear in middle pages, no second threads will be opened aparently for no reason and main pages will grow  more interesting over the years instead of becoming desactualized .

Thank you Valeriy, it's a great progress.

P.S. It can became extremely complicate both ethically and pratically but you should consider this possibility: give the one time hability to alter a thread with a specific purpose to people that aren't the original posters (with expressed autorization of the posters if they are still active).
This because certain mods or threads may need to be altered (bugs corrected) while the original poster is not around anymore.  

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
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posted November 23, 2014 12:30 PM
Edited by Maurice at 12:31, 23 Nov 2014.

Valeriy said:
If a nuke is detected, the moderator just needs to contact me and tell me the ID of the thread/s and I can send them the backup files for restoration. Upon restoring the post, they can change thread rating from 'project' to something else to prevent re-nuking.


This also applies when after all your hard work on this website you finally lay down a towel on the sands of Waikiki beach, relaxing while being treated by beautiful local women with a fan of palmleaves, sipping on some pineapple-infused beverage for about three weeks?

But overall, nice work Val . Much appreciated.

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Salamandre
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posted November 23, 2014 12:54 PM

Not sure I understand: what is this project rating? Not all threads needing updates are project related. Also, as Orzie said, project rating is no longer describing the thread purpose, which was "community", "informative", or just rated "inspiring", "to delete" etc.
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Stevie
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posted November 23, 2014 12:59 PM

Does it need regular updates beyond 1 year if it's not a project? What better word would you find for it?

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Salamandre
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posted November 23, 2014 01:04 PM

Threads with indexes to mods download links and advertising pics were labeled before as "informative" or "community". Their purpose is to guide users to find  their way without browsing the whole forum. Such threads may need quite often updates.
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
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posted November 23, 2014 04:42 PM
Edited by Corribus at 16:43, 23 Nov 2014.

One other question, elaborating on Bloodsucker's point.

In some of the larger project threads that have gone on for a long time, it is possible the original poster is no longer around but the first post needs to be updated by a new manager of the project.  Is it possible to "transfer authorship" of the opening post to someone else, should the need arise? I seem to recall I have been asked to edit the first post of a project thread in the past by an individual who didn't actually write the post.

Not an urgent requirement, but thought I'd ask nonetheless.
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orzie
orzie


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Reinventing the Steel
posted November 23, 2014 10:12 PM

That'd be very useful since I wouldn't have to create a third thread for The Succession Wars Mod instead of editing the master post of the current one.

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Salamandre
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posted November 25, 2014 04:33 AM

ok, so what we do about informative threads, like Era mods, I need to update it regularly, but its rating better not change to project, is it possible?

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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted November 25, 2014 05:42 AM

Does anyone even look at the thread ratings? If you need to update it regularly, we'll change it to project and be done with it.
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Valeriy
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posted November 25, 2014 06:36 AM
Edited by Valeriy at 06:37, 25 Nov 2014.

bloodsucker said:
P.S. It can became extremely complicate both ethically and pratically but you should consider this possibility: give the one time hability to alter a thread with a specific purpose to people that aren't the original posters (with expressed autorization of the posters if they are still active).
This because certain mods or threads may need to be altered (bugs corrected) while the original poster is not around anymore.


One-off editing permissions, especially to a non-author are actually much more complicated to implement. The best solution here is to ask a moderator to edit the thread. If the moderator agrees, they can also provide the "source code" of the post to the user who wishes to correct it, and then perform the edit on behalf of that user.

Ownership transfer of posts/threads - at this stage there is no such function. And making it would undermine the concept of the forum a bit.

Maurice said:
This also applies when after all your hard work on this website you finally lay down a towel on the sands of Waikiki beach, relaxing while being treated by beautiful local women with a fan of palmleaves, sipping on some pineapple-infused beverage for about three weeks?


Ahhhhhhh that's the life. If I have some of that, seriously who cares about some lost post?? But really at this point the back-up text files do not expire. There may be a delay if I am away, but the backup will still be there when I return.

Salamandre said:
ok, so what we do about informative threads, like Era mods, I need to update it regularly, but its rating better not change to project, is it possible?


Making and maintaining a list of mod downloads is a project. The word project applies to many undertakings, not just to making downloadable content for the game. So I see it perfectly fitting in this case.

So, on an earlier point, should the "project" rating show up in bold in the ratings coloumn, or should it remain just like the others - what do you guys think?
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Orzie
Orzie


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Reinventing the Steel
posted November 25, 2014 07:16 AM

Pokebold, I choose you!



Now the only feature I will dream of will be the post preview.

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Salamandre
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posted November 26, 2014 08:32 AM

All good, thanks to Bloodsucker for succeeding where I failed several times.

And thanks to Valeriy for accepting and coding a friendly compromise.

Then thanks to Corribus for setting project rate shortly after I asked.

Everyone's ass enough licked?

If so, now going to update that long time dilapidated Era thread.
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orzie
orzie


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Reinventing the Steel
posted November 26, 2014 10:50 AM
Edited by orzie at 10:50, 26 Nov 2014.

I noticed a new strange line in the profile info - "Supporter". What does it stand for?

And btw, is there any possibility to change the author ID of the master post of a selected thread if the 'previous author' and the 'new author' confirm the operation?

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted November 26, 2014 02:54 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 15:01, 26 Nov 2014.

Valeriy said:
One-off editing permissions, especially to a non-author are actually much more complicated to implement. The best solution here is to ask a moderator to edit the thread. If the moderator agrees, they can also provide the "source code" of the post to the user who wishes to correct it, and then perform the edit on behalf of that user.

Ownership transfer of posts/threads - at this stage there is no such function. And making it would undermine the concept of the forum a bit.


You're right, the old way is the better in this case. Moderators are the best judges one can find to "should this guy be given permission to alter that guys thread", it will always have to be a case by case decision.

Salamandre said:
Everyone's ass enough licked?

If so, now going to update that long time dilapidated Era thread.


Guess I prefer the pratical result (Era thread finally working) but it's just me.

Thank you for making this necessary. Without your mods and updates I probably wouldn't have a "cause" to fight for.



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Storm-Giant
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posted November 26, 2014 04:50 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 16:51, 26 Nov 2014.

orzie said:
I noticed a new strange line in the profile info - "Supporter". What does it stand for?

The answer you seek lies in the FAQ
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