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kiryu133
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posted March 18, 2015 06:56 PM

here's a lore-question: where do they get those feathers? never seen purpler (totally a word) feathers and certainly not underground where strong colours would make no sense.
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Sligneris
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posted March 18, 2015 07:15 PM

They use dyes, of course.

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posted March 18, 2015 07:24 PM

kiryu133 said:
here's a lore-question: where do they get those feathers? never seen purpler (totally a word) feathers and certainly not underground where strong colours would make no sense.



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posted March 18, 2015 07:45 PM

uh...

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What if Elvin was female?
posted March 18, 2015 10:46 PM

Sligneris said:
Speaking of awkward similarities...



I... must admit I didn't notice that until a friend of mine asked whether person on SoD's cover was Markal....

LOL!

Agraelag is also Markal in disguise
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posted March 19, 2015 11:52 AM
Edited by Avonu at 11:57, 19 Mar 2015.

What these two have in common is colour (purple) and long hair but even hairs have different patterns, not to mention their ears.

Sligneris said:
They use dyes, of course.

Of course, not to mention most of Dark Elves dyed hairs black.
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Sligneris
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posted March 19, 2015 12:57 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 12:57, 19 Mar 2015.

Avonu said:
What these two have in common is colour (purple) and long hair but even hairs have different patterns, not to mention their ears.

They have exactly the same eyes, the same hair, the only difference seem to be skin tone, outfit and ears.

Not to mention that Markal is alive at the time, so his pale skin is probably mostly just a matter of lighting.

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posted March 19, 2015 04:03 PM

Agraelag is everyone

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Sligneris
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posted March 19, 2015 11:43 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 23:46, 19 Mar 2015.

I love how all the official sources are all like:

"Sar-Elam reached the conscience of Asha, which turned him into the Seventh Dragon. He had seven disciples. He prophesied that the world of men will live as long as the Falcon line does. He imposed the peace treaty between Angels and the Faceless. He sealed the demons in the prison world of Sheogh.

Oh, and by the way, we don't know his gender."


I mean, by now it's kinda obvious it was a guy, when literally the whole universe puts it that way.

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posted March 20, 2015 12:21 AM

Why is that obvious?

I don't get the impression that Ashan is significantly more progressive on gender equality than we are, in modern times. Being a male is probably the norm so I don't find it strange that people assume that the Seventh Dragon was a male.

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posted March 20, 2015 07:38 AM
Edited by Elvin at 07:45, 20 Mar 2015.

Sligneris said:
I love how all the official sources are all like:

"Sar-Elam reached the conscience of Asha, which turned him into the Seventh Dragon. He had seven disciples. He prophesied that the world of men will live as long as the Falcon line does. He imposed the peace treaty between Angels and the Faceless. He sealed the demons in the prison world of Sheogh.

Oh, and by the way, we don't know his gender."




Naturally we'll get the [writer perceives Sar Elam as male] treatment but that's just convenient. There was never any ambiguity like say with Jack's appearance in mass effect 2 where they deliberately avoided mentioning a him or her. But Sar Elam is more of a symbol than a person so a gender distinction matters little.
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posted March 20, 2015 08:06 AM

i like the lack of gender. nice touch
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Sligneris
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posted March 20, 2015 08:15 AM

I wouldn't mind, if it wasn't for the fact that it was more of a retcon... but now that he was male from the start, I kinda do.

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posted March 20, 2015 08:19 AM

Sligneris said:
I wouldn't mind, if it wasn't for the fact that it was more of a retcon... but now that he was male from the start, I kinda do.


retcons are fine as long as they improve the thing it retcons, which this one does. though do put in the effort of actually changing any male pronouns...
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posted March 20, 2015 08:34 AM

Sar-Elam doesn't strike me as a particularly feminine name.
Maybe it's the whole 'Elam' being 'Male' backwards thing

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Sligneris
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posted March 20, 2015 08:40 AM
Edited by Sligneris at 08:41, 20 Mar 2015.

kiryu133 said:
retcons are fine as long as they improve the thing it retcons, which this one does. though do put in the effort of actually changing any male pronouns...
I... don't exactly see it as improvement.

Avirosb said:
Maybe it's the whole 'Elam' being 'Male' backwards thing

Hahahah

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posted March 20, 2015 09:54 AM

I think he's male out-universe, but in-universe nobody remembers his gender.
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posted March 20, 2015 10:10 AM

How is it that a person as important as Sar-Elam has his/her gender forgotten to time, did they not record these things or were books not invented? It was not even that long ago from what I gathered only around 1500 years we remember that Julius Caesar was male and that was over 3000 years ago, yet the only mortal to ever attain godhood has something as simple as his/her gender forgotten?

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What if Elvin was female?
posted March 20, 2015 10:15 AM

He was VERY mysterious.
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Sligneris
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posted March 20, 2015 10:52 AM

Sandro400 said:
I think he's male out-universe, but in-universe nobody remembers his gender.


Nobody except for Arantir or Kha-Beleth, it seems.

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