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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 02, 2015 11:52 AM |
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Maurice said:
The Elven Campaign Hero is called Wysloth? Why Sloth? 
Wys: Wind
Loth: Leaf
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted September 03, 2015 04:54 AM |
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I hope the xpacks/dlc/whatever we get deals with Sandro and co because i want Lucretia.
I'm only feeling the academy and necropolis campaigns frankly. I'm not very fond of the blades of Erebos stuff.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted September 03, 2015 09:17 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
I'm only feeling the academy and necropolis campaigns frankly. I'm not very fond of the blades of Erebos stuff.
Funny, I don't think I'll be able to fully enjoy those two campaigns because your Heroes don't appear to carry over between missions - as you start each with (an)other Hero(es).
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 03, 2015 02:57 PM |
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That's nothing that would prevent me from enjoying a good story.
Yeah as if
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted September 03, 2015 03:00 PM |
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Maurice said:
GenyaArikado said:
I'm only feeling the academy and necropolis campaigns frankly. I'm not very fond of the blades of Erebos stuff.
Funny, I don't think I'll be able to fully enjoy those two campaigns because your Heroes don't appear to carry over between missions - as you start each with (an)other Hero(es).
That wouldn't be too bad, if they implement some reward carryover, like in H2 campaigns.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 09, 2015 05:49 PM |
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frostymuaddib said:
Maurice said:
GenyaArikado said:
I'm only feeling the academy and necropolis campaigns frankly. I'm not very fond of the blades of Erebos stuff.
Funny, I don't think I'll be able to fully enjoy those two campaigns because your Heroes don't appear to carry over between missions - as you start each with (an)other Hero(es).
That wouldn't be too bad, if they implement some reward carryover, like in H2 campaigns.
Maybe it is a way to experience all classes? H3 had some scenarios in which there weren't any carryovers.
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zmudziak22
Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
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posted September 09, 2015 06:01 PM |
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Atleast maybe artifacts from combination carryover? or I don't know, H2/H3 rewards?
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3lion
Known Hero
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posted September 10, 2015 01:15 PM |
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Since I am unable to comment on the official website due to neverending technical issues, I'll ask here:
Who the hell is Vassily?
He is not a son of Slava and Kate (obviously). And he is not a son of Anton (obviously as well). But he is a duke of Griffin Duchy (and a father of Ivan). Therefore I assume, that Vassily is a descendant of Anton and Gwendolyn somehow (great-grandson of Anton?).
Anyway.. Am I the one who confused with this huge time gap in Griffin dynasty description? We have detailed bio from Ishtvan to Anton, but have nothing since then, until... Vassily. So, who the hell is Vassily? I can't find any info about him except description from the article.
I guess we need a "Griffin Dynasty: Part III"
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted September 10, 2015 01:18 PM |
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3lion said:
He is not a son of Slava and Kate (obviously). And he is not a son of Anton (obviously as well). But he is a duke of Griffin Duchy (and a father of Ivan). Therefore I assume, that Vassily is a descendant of Anton and Gwendolyn somehow (great-grandson of Anton?).
Anyway.. Am I the one who confused with this huge time gap in Griffin dynasty description? We have detailed bio from Ishtvan to Anton, but have nothing since then, until... Vassily. So, who the hell is Vassily? I can't find any info about him except description from the article.
I guess we need a "Griffin Dynasty: Part III"
Vassily is a great-great-great-...-grandson of Anton. How many "great-" do we need to add? Good question. This huge has to be filled somehow.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 10, 2015 01:54 PM |
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He is Ivan's father.
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We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 10, 2015 02:49 PM |
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Here's full Vassily's bio:
"Ivan’s father, Duke Vassily was a just but stern ruler. It is said of him that he never unsheathed his sword without good reason, and under his guidance the Griffin Duchy knew many years of quiet and peace. In his private life, too, Vassily was blessed, for he was able to marry his childhood love (and distant cousin) Ilona, third daughter of Duke Ekhard of Wolf. Ilona soon gave birth to two strong sons, Fedor and Ivan, who filled Vassily’s heart with pride and joy.
But the Blind Brothers’ predictions, foreseeing a new Bloodmoon Eclipse in the next three decades, cast on the children a rather ominous shadow. Not wanting to increase their son’s considerable burden, Vassily and Ilona were probably too lenient and permissive when raising Fedor who as a result never quite showed his father’s morality and strength of character. Ivan, sent to the seminaries of Flammschrein at a young age, fared considerably better, all things considered.
Fedor managed to hide his darker side to his parents, but to those who thrive in the shadows his frequentation of the seedier districts of Eastalon was well known. A taste for gambling and a competitive strike proved his undoing, as he found himself indebted to the criminal organization known as the Blackfang. Rather than repay the fortune he owed them, Fedor raided the Blackfang’s hideouts across the Duchy and had the organization’s leaders publicly executed, making it look like justice was guiding his arm.
If Fedor had been smarter, he would have known that the Blackfang is not so easily destroyed. The thieves and cutthroats simply went into hiding, waiting for the storm to pass.
A couple of years of safety dulled Fedor’s vigilance, until the organization finally struck back. As Vassily and Fedor were hunting a Wyvern said to terrorize the eastern borders of the Duchy, they were separated from the rest of the party and ambushed by the Blackfang’s assassins. Both father and son were slain. As we all know this tragic turn of events led to Ivan inheriting the Duchy.
Ivan always suspected Vassily and Fedor’s deaths were not a simple hunting accident, despite the Blackfang’s best efforts to make them look that way. At the time, I was serving the Duchy as a simple spy and informant, but Ivan immediately guessed there was more to me than met the eye. He enlisted my help to discover the truth, which I did. I won’t detail what he did to the assassins – as well as a couple of corrupted nobles – when we tracked them down, but I will say as much: all debts with the Blackfang were settled, there and then.
You might wonder why Ivan didn’t go on a vengful rampage against the Blackfang as a whole, but even in his young age he understood that a thieves’ guild has its use… especially with a skillful Spy Master like myself to keep them on a leash."
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3lion
Known Hero
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posted September 10, 2015 02:52 PM |
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Edited by 3lion at 14:53, 10 Sep 2015.
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Avonu, I've read it. Still it doesn't explain who is Vassily...
Dave_Jame said:
He is Ivan's father.
You don't say?
There is another question: since Ivan actually is a grand-grand-grand ... grand-son of Anton and Gwendolyn, does it mean, that he has a blood of Falcons? Gwendolyn was a Falcon, right? And she was an Empress. Gwen and Anton have got a son Morvan who was an Emperor too. Is Morvan Falcon or Griffin? And after him Meave became Empress.. Somewhere here must be Vassily... And I am wondering, why he is just a Duke, not an Emperor? And that means that Meave and Ivan are relatives.. And I simply can't understand why Brandon (son of Meave) is so important, since the blood of Falcons flows through the Ivan's veins...
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 10, 2015 03:05 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 15:31, 10 Sep 2015.
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Well.. it's not an easy answer to that because:
1. Gwendolyn was Liam Falcon's niece, not his child. So with his death, we can say that Falcon line has ended... from a certain point of view. 
2. First Emperor of Falcon Empire (not "Holy" yet) - Ronan the Great - married Ishtvan Griffin daughter.
However in other lore book from MMX it is said, that he married his cousin Treva Falcon and only their first son, Brian the Blessed  , married Brietta Griffin in the 40 YSD.
Anyway - the result is the same - Falcon and Griffin lines were married with each other since beginning of Falcon Empire.
3. Anton and Gwendolyn had three children: Morvan became emperor Morvan Falcon. Their second son Vyacheslav bacame Duke of Griffin Duchy and ancestor of Vassyli.
So basically Griffin ruling family was something like that:
duke Ishtvan -> ... -> duke Serguei -> duke Pavel -> duke Slava -> duke Anton -> duke Vyacheslaw -> ... -> duke Vassily -> duke and later Emperor Ivan -> ... -> emperor Oleg -> emperor Alexei -> emperor Nicolai -> end of bloodline
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 10, 2015 03:22 PM |
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Avonu said:
duke Ishtvan -> ... -> duke Sergui -> duke Pavel -> duke Slava -> duke Anton -> duke Vyacheslaw -> ... -> duke Vassily ->duke and later Emperor Ivan -> ... -> emperor Nicolai -> end of bloodline
Doesn't before Nicolai come Alexei and his father (presumed to be King Oleg), while after Nicolai came Andrei?
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 10, 2015 03:23 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 15:38, 10 Sep 2015.
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Indeed. Thanks.
There are probably more characters which I missed.
EDIT:
Andrei was Nicolai's cousin, not a son, and he was killed by Biara, while she posed as "Saint" Isabel.
He was a child and didn't even have a chance to sit on Griffin Throne, althrough archbishop Randall and Duncan Stag had tried to do that.
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"Details are everything."
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3lion
Known Hero
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posted September 10, 2015 04:00 PM |
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Avonu said:
3. Anton and Gwendolyn had three children: Morvan became emperor Morvan Falcon. Their second son Vyacheslav bacame Duke of Griffin Duchy and ancestor of Vassyli.
Oh, yes, Vyacheslav! So Ivan is a descendant of Vyacheslav, not Morvan. Okay, it explains alot!
Avonu said:
Anyway - the result is the same - Falcon and Griffin lines were married with each other since beginning of Falcon Empire.
Then I guess that the Prophecy was about the imperial blood, not the blood of kinship. Many people have a Falcon's blood in theirs veins, but only Brendon's blood matters. Now I understand. Thanks )
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted September 11, 2015 05:26 PM |
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Can someone post Gloria's bio?
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 11, 2015 06:00 PM |
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Okay, here are the recent lore tidbits.
So, Lysander's brothers are Gauldoth and Waerjak... talk about a surprising twist. And from undead king Nicolas, whom the necromancers revived in Heroes III original campaign. Wow, truly astounding.
But, this means that something happened and Lysander lost his brothers and sisters somewhen during his childhood, right?
But, a more important question: these three brothers also have two sisters. Is it possible one of them is Queen Catherine (since she is Gryphonheart's daughter)? And if so, is it known who the other daughter is?
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted September 11, 2015 06:04 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
So, Lysander's brothers are Gauldoth and Waerjak... talk about a surprising twist. And from undead king Nicolas, whom the necromancers revived in Heroes III original campaign. Wow, truly astounding.
Not so surprising though. They have similar backstories, Waerjak's name means "Griffin", and more importantly... those chins don't lie 
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 11, 2015 06:08 PM |
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Marzhin said:
EnergyZ said:
So, Lysander's brothers are Gauldoth and Waerjak... talk about a surprising twist. And from undead king Nicolas, whom the necromancers revived in Heroes III original campaign. Wow, truly astounding.
Not so surprising though. They have similar backstories, Waerjak's name means "Griffin", and more importantly... those chins don't lie
It still is so strange, when they all had different backgrounds. Lysander's family was attacked by undead, Waerjak was adopted by Tarnum and Adrienne and Galudoth only remembers a bite of a vampire.
But, looking it from this angle, it makes the whole H6 campaign sponateously influenced by H4. Partially, that is.
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