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Ghost
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posted January 14, 2023 11:53 AM |
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Yes you are right.. The God is one.. His Son isn't the God but king.. We aren't Christians, if we don't keep Jesus is the God.. That's why I wanted to destroy the religion..
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Drakon-Deus
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posted January 14, 2023 12:30 PM |
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But Jesus Christ is the Son of The God (Yahweh). Not the same as his Father.
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Ghost
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posted January 14, 2023 12:34 PM |
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The God is father.. and His Son is Jesus.. If you are disagree, so we read the Bible in different way.. And we aren't Christians..
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Ghost
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posted January 14, 2023 12:58 PM |
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And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. - John 17:3 (Jesus prayed to his father)
Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’” - John 20:17 (Jesus said to Maria Magdalena)
but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name. - John 20:31
..etc Jesus isn't YHWH, but his father is YHWH.. Father is the God.. Jesus is only His Son..
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Drakon-Deus
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posted January 14, 2023 01:11 PM |
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I agree with you Ghost. 
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Ghost
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posted January 14, 2023 01:11 PM |
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Edited by Ghost at 13:12, 14 Jan 2023.
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I'm sorry, DD
Ok your belief 
EDIT
Ok I misunderstood.. Ok we agree.. 
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Ghost
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posted January 14, 2023 01:31 PM |
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So.. I analyzed the life of tree.. You don't eat a "fruit".. Because "fruit" is strong drug also destroying your gene, DNA, RNA.. But someone can eat a "fruit", it gives health to someone.. And people can't eat a "fruit" in the paradise.. Someone people are 144.000 members, so their body is different, when they step on the paradise..
Isn't odd? First I thought special seedless fruit something..
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Drakon-Deus
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posted January 14, 2023 02:06 PM |
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There is great debate about the trees in the garden and fruit...
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ArdentWyrm
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posted January 14, 2023 07:17 PM |
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what are the theories of the debate, then?
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Drakon-Deus
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posted January 14, 2023 07:57 PM |
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ArdentWyrm said:
what are the theories of the debate, then?
That trees of life and knowledge are literally trees and fruit are like what we would call magic. Against the theory that it is all allegory for something different that we as humans would not comprehend.
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ArdentWyrm
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posted January 14, 2023 11:57 PM |
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interesting, so one says we can't comprehend it, but can sheep comprehend it?, it doesn't say sheep can't, does it?
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Gandalf196
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posted January 15, 2023 01:49 AM |
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@Drakon-Deus, how do you reconcile your religious beliefs with the mainstream belief in the modern synthesis
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Drakon-Deus
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posted January 15, 2023 02:53 AM |
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Gandalf196 said:
@Drakon-Deus, how do you reconcile your religious beliefs with the mainstream belief in the modern synthesis
What exactly do you mean by mainstream belief in the modern synthesis? I'm afraid I'm puzzled.
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Gandalf196
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posted January 15, 2023 04:03 AM |
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"You may recall the gist from school biology lessons. If a creature with poor eyesight happens to produce offspring with slightly better eyesight, thanks to random mutations, then that tiny bit more vision gives them more chance of survival. The longer they survive, the more chance they have to reproduce and pass on the genes that equipped them with slightly better eyesight. Some of their offspring might, in turn, have better eyesight than their parents, making it likelier that they, too, will reproduce. And so on. Generation by generation, over unfathomably long periods of time, tiny advantages add up. Eventually, after a few hundred million years, you have creatures who can see as well as humans, or cats, or owls."
Not even God can guide an unguided process. Ergo, the neo-Darwinian Modern Synthesis (MS) is contrary to any and all beliefs in a universe created by a "higher intelligence"
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Drakon-Deus
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posted January 15, 2023 04:15 AM |
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I reject evolutionism and darwinism in all of its forms.
There's nothing about it compatible with my beliefs.
edit: In my younger years I used to accept a "theistic evolution" system but now I am a full creationist.
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Ghost
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posted January 15, 2023 10:13 AM |
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Ok no discourse or debate.. When Gandalf mentioned evolution.. So we move to 6000 years of subject matter.. When Pentecostalism and JWs are a good example, they claimed agree with 5 things, sixth ape to human, they are disagree.. They "lied" to claim agree with 5 things.. But my style thus I analyzed..
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. - Genesis 1:1
It isn't first the God's year.. It can be billion years ago..
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And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness - Genesis 1:3-4
Sorry my English, so I quote from Internet says "The Sun and the planets formed together, 4.6 billion years ago, from a cloud of gas and dust called the solar nebula. A shock wave from a nearby supernova explosion probably initiated the collapse of the solar nebula. The Sun formed in the center, and the planets formed in a thin disk orbiting around it." When the Sun doesn't shine well also not 24h/day but 12h/day.. Because the Sun was immature..
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God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day. - Genesis 1:5
Ok it said the first day.. It means also 1000 years.. But Pentecostal and JW can't see the text..
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Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. - Genesis 1:11
The world's first Aglaophyton, etc plants gave different seed species.. A very good fact about the Bible.. When the Sun after water, and vegetations.. Water gave oxygen.. So you can do algae.. and you move to land, and so etc.. Then aglaophyton, etc means that the Bible knew earlier.. It should be UFO..
So Earth is more than 6000 years.. and 5 things are Ok..
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Gandalf196
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posted January 15, 2023 01:44 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
I reject evolutionism and darwinism in all of its forms.
There's nothing about it compatible with my beliefs.
edit: In my younger years I used to accept a "theistic evolution" system but now I am a full creationist.
Perfect!
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JollyJoker
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posted January 15, 2023 02:21 PM |
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How anyone can believe in a "God" who wasn't able to create anything better than this mess is beyond me.
And for beings who were created and aren't the actualy result of a long evolution we seem to have a lot of features and traits rather unnecessary and actually harmful.
But I suppose reason isn't the strong suit of the creationists, so never mind.
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Ghost
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posted January 15, 2023 02:50 PM |
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I think UFO created and left the Earth.. When in the future we want to create the Earth for know-how.. I've found a few verses about UFO..
Another thing if you believe in God.. No sense that you don't believe in the Bible..
And if you don't know and understand about the Bible yet.. Then the God takes you, but you live in about 100 years, so your enough time can do decision do you want to serve the God.. But I can't be live, thus I understood, etc
In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. - Acts 17:30
and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. - Acts 24:15
BUT HITLER, etc can't get a resurrection*.. How a wicked? An example average Joe doesn't break the law.. But average Joe doesn't believe in the Bible, etc so he gets a resurrection and lives 100 years in the paradise.. If Joe serves the God, and Joe gets extra 900 years.. When Satan releases from prison, and Satan tries Joe does the Sin.. If Joe says no.. Then Joe lives eternally.. *I'm not judge.. But I know about the Bible, so I can't get a eternal life surely.. Hmm only I've a chance.. When I believe in UFO..
Resurrection, paradise.. Who is an average Joe can't live eternally, if the Jesus is coming.. and Armageddon is coming.. Thus Joe should die before event.. Multitude people gets eternally, but it's 100 years too.. When they learn a right teaching, etc
JWs and Pentecostals are disagree about multitude.. Multitude in DD.. So I and Mormon are agree with multitude..
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Gandalf196
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posted January 15, 2023 02:54 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
How anyone can believe in a "God" who wasn't able to create anything better than this mess is beyond me.
And for beings who were created and aren't the actualy result of a long evolution we seem to have a lot of features and traits rather unnecessary and actually harmful.
But I suppose reason isn't the strong suit of the creationists, so never mind.
I used to think this way too. Gotta broaden your horizon, JJ.
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