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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Rejuvenation process
posted April 17, 2016 12:00 AM

Too bad I can no longer give qps Thank you for sharing, may your efforts inspire the team to do what should be done. Or at least, give some people the chance to enjoy the game.
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Stevie
Stevie


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posted April 17, 2016 12:13 AM
Edited by Stevie at 11:03, 17 Apr 2016.

@ AcidDragon,

I believe myself to be an open-minded person, so if Heroes 7 can become better with the skill changes, dwarfs and possibly extensive modability and map making, then why not? I've never been definitively on one side or the other, I'm one of those customers that expects to be won over. The M&M team showed me a lot of good will and gave me reasons to hope, and so I did, I pre-ordered the deluxe versions for 60, but the game didn't live up to the advertised "best of" expectations and it actually disappointed me immensely with its near alpha state on release. I even gave it a hopeful review within the community and also on steam just pinning what little hope in the post support process I had. But in the end I felt like I've been suckered in, my trust betrayed and probably most importantly left with a product that didn't satisfy me. Do you know who played Heroes 7 most during Beta 1 and reporting issues all day long? Yea, that was me. Do you know who came back from the Paris fan day and immediately tried to raise awareness within the limit of the NDA just so people could raise their voice and make a difference? Me. Do you know who went to the extent of creating visual representations of a possible skillwheel implementation and bullet pointing the greatness they failed to extract from Heroes 5? Me. Do you know who's been active on a daily basis both on the forums and on the shadow council for the last years? Me. Helping Ubisoft with Uplay / Laptop issues by testing fixes on my rig for them? Also me. Sure, it's nowhere near the level of modding, but that's all I could bring to the table and I'm sorry if it was not enough, but it was rendered moot at the end of the day anyway. So when you come here telling me I've ruined Heroes 7's chances and whatnot, it's not only untrue but it also puts me in a foul mood. But I'll take it as a misunderstanding (which it is), and not take the spotlight furthermore and wish you good luck with modding the game, I'm positively rooting for you on whatever good changes you manage to bring.
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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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Undefeatable Hero
On to the Other Side
posted April 17, 2016 12:13 AM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 00:13, 17 Apr 2016.

Elvin said:
Too bad I can no longer give qps

Don't worry, Bruker got you covered
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AcidDragon
AcidDragon


Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
posted April 17, 2016 12:42 AM
Edited by AcidDragon at 02:15, 17 Apr 2016.

@stevie
I obviously don't know you and everything that you've done. But I can can tell with 100% certainty that your latest actions, along with Galaad and friends were destructive for Heroes fan communities, for the VIP fans and as a consequence - also for the game. If it wasn't for that we had a chance of building something. And right now we don't. Because it is fully understandable for Ubisoft to protect their property and strategies.

I understand that you and many other fans may feel ignored, betrayed and let down. Believe me, I've been there too. But I also know that spewing venom in every second post doesn't make things better, but worse.

I decided to concentrate not on the things I cannot do, but can do.
Like this mod. I probably cannot tell the whole story of how it came to be, but in a very short way it went like this:
"We want alternative creatures!"
"That won't happen."
"Oh yes it will!"

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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
posted April 17, 2016 12:47 AM

I thought mods came after the game was polished. In a sense that mods keep the game alive (hence why there are so many for Heroes II, III and V as well). So, uh, to say that fans should save the game is an overstatement, don't you think?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted April 17, 2016 01:01 AM

Respect AD, nice to see you still active and creative.

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Stevie
Stevie


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posted April 17, 2016 01:13 AM
Edited by Stevie at 01:15, 17 Apr 2016.

@ AcidDragon,

For the record, and you can go tell people in high places so that they stop giving me personally and others in general the cold shoulder (yes, I'm talking about the community managers): I have not been part of the leaking scheme, I just put two and two together and was also filled in shortly, and whatever I found out later was and still is for myself to keep. I admit the one venomous post I made was to twist the dagger a bit, but I expect you to understand that it was out of pent up frustration and nothing else. I fully agree with you that constructive thinking and actions are preferable, yet to me they haven't bore any sizable fruit and I see no reason why they should now. I've become ever more disconnected and even acidic yet I consider it at least half warranted if not fully. But let's change the page a bit and see things from a different perspective - the fault also lies on your side, and by that I mean the VIPs. I'm not gonna argue over it because I feel it stands to reason as to why, wouldn't you agree? I'm sure you understand what I mean by that. Furthermore, you claim that you had a good thing going on for you before they stopped the communication plan, but how am I to believe that when all we've seen so far pointed into the other direction? If you want my honest opinion, I think Ubisoft and Limbic as accomplices were playing the VIPs just like they've been doing all along with the communities and forums. And I have two compelling arguments for that - JJ's controversial removal from the group on one hand, and Natalka losing hope right in the middle of your recent endeavor on the other. If you can provide any tangible evidence to the contrary I'll be more than happy to hear you out.
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AcidDragon
AcidDragon


Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
posted April 17, 2016 01:42 AM
Edited by AcidDragon at 01:49, 17 Apr 2016.

I definitely cannot talk about internal discussions and I am not here to prove anything. Nor can I prove anything without talking about internal discussions.
So you will believe what you want to believe, I'm afraid. I can only say that you have said several things in your last post that are definitely not true.

However, I need to apologize to you. Indeed, I went back to the "situation" and although I was sure that you went along with "Galaad and friends", you actually responded to them. I remembered it wrong. I am sorry for that. Please, forgive me. While you were indeed involved in the disproportionate negative flooding present in this forum, you are not directly responsible for the current situation.

As for the "good thing going" - well I wouldn't call it that good. But I'd still call it better than nothing. The Random Skill System being a good example. But of course it's not like the VIP fans could ever pick a faction or increase the game's budget.

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
HC SUPPORTER
posted April 17, 2016 01:57 AM

I accept the apology and apologize in return for derailing the thread a bit. I knew from the beginning it had to be a misunderstanding.

Wish you all the best with modding and good luck with the current state of affairs.
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AcidDragon
AcidDragon


Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
posted April 17, 2016 02:18 AM
Edited by AcidDragon at 02:19, 17 Apr 2016.

So getting back to modding, this is what KUREK, one of our members is currently working on:

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applekzz
applekzz

Tavern Dweller
posted April 17, 2016 06:29 AM
Edited by applekzz at 06:31, 17 Apr 2016.

So happy to see some live modding going on! Thanks AC TEAM
I'm one of the some who still wishing mmh7 can be done better...

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted April 17, 2016 10:42 AM

Articun said:
It's not bad at all, although i would also feel more at ease if Air elementals were in Stronghold instead of the Efreet.

Swapping Air Elemental and Efreet would also be my suggestion. Efreet seems to fit well in the arabian/desert theme of Academy. Like the evil counterpart to the Djinn (it could even be alternative to the Djinn, although my guess is the stats don't match?).

Anyway, props for giving this project a go. I do agree with those who think this is probably too little too late, but I still think anyone who fights to save the franchise deserve applause.

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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted April 17, 2016 11:16 AM

Guys, you are being very unfair here. Saying "too little too late", "this is dead" and so on discourage anyone willing to give modding a go and thus condemning the game. The thing is, it is truly unfair to  treat modders that put hard work into seeing their vision of the game come to life, like the developing studios which do their own thing, fail and get paid for it. I for one fully support this mod and the modders in general like 3Lion which try to bring us what we ask as best they can.

So, please, refrain from saying that the game is dead or it is too late and so on. It is never too late for players to try and give the game their own treatment. And who knows maybe a team of modders with good spirits will fix things that the game developers aren't willing to. This mod, with alternative units have been something that i believed Heroes should have from the start. I am happy to see it manifest even in this form. And i will support it. You know, it opens much more possibilities for new factions as well. So, why not?

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Stevie
Stevie


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HC SUPPORTER
posted April 17, 2016 11:42 AM
Edited by Stevie at 11:43, 17 Apr 2016.

I have some suggestions that I believe will make the creatures fit better thematically.

Efreet to Academy like others have said, as far as I know the story involves wizards drawing the powers of djinn resulting in being absorbed by them and turned chaotic. It's way better than having it in Stronghold.

Air Elemental and Earth Elemental to Stronghold, goes hand in hand with their magic inclination to earth and air, or mother earth and father sky as the orcs say. Stronghold still gets to have one flier alternative, but gets another melee instead of a shooter. Given their physically offensive nature, I'd take that trade.

Mermaid or more preferable the Sea Elf to Sylvan. The white tiger is a good fit. The earth elemental also, but there's not too many options left. I'd favor the Mermaid for having another shooter alternative, though the Sea Elf fits more because of the same race.

Just my 2 cents.
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AcidDragon
AcidDragon


Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
posted April 17, 2016 11:58 AM

Swapping Efreet for Air Elemental is possible and is indeed something already suggested to me.

However I don't see moving two elementals to Stronghold. First thing - balance (right now every faction gest one alternative strong elite - two would be too much) and secondly - in my opinion Earth Elementals definitely fit Sylvan better. Besides mythology and tactics, have you seen their catapult?

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Selpen
Selpen


Adventuring Hero
posted April 17, 2016 12:01 PM

@AcidDragon

Great stuff. Even if i don't like this game, your work is really good.
So KUREK is making new faction with new units? I don't understand Polish and google translate doesn't help either.

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AcidDragon
AcidDragon


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who lost his body somehow...
posted April 17, 2016 12:13 PM

Yes, KUREK is trying to add the Elemental Conflux faction and is currently experimenting with adding creatures from Heroes 6.

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Selpen
Selpen


Adventuring Hero
posted April 17, 2016 12:20 PM

AcidDragon said:
Yes, KUREK is trying to add the Elemental Conflux faction and is currently experimenting with adding creatures from Heroes 6.


Every elemental is elite level i think.
There will be no core and champion units?

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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
HC SUPPORTER
posted April 17, 2016 12:23 PM

I was under the impression that balance could be easily changed so as to make any creature be of any tier.
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Selpen
Selpen


Adventuring Hero
posted April 17, 2016 12:25 PM

http://snag.gy/LfAgS.jpg

In this picture it's Psychic Elemental?

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