Heroes of Might and Magic Community
visiting hero! Register | Today's Posts | Games | Search! | FAQ/Rules | AvatarList | MemberList | Profile


Age of Heroes Headlines:  
5 Oct 2016: Heroes VII development comes to an end.. - read more
6 Aug 2016: Troubled Heroes VII Expansion Release - read more
26 Apr 2016: Heroes VII XPack - Trial by Fire - Coming out in June! - read more
17 Apr 2016: Global Alternative Creatures MOD for H7 after 1.8 Patch! - read more
7 Mar 2016: Romero launches a Piano Sonata Album Kickstarter! - read more
19 Feb 2016: Heroes 5.5 RC6, Heroes VII patch 1.7 are out! - read more
13 Jan 2016: Horn of the Abyss 1.4 Available for Download! - read more
17 Dec 2015: Heroes 5.5 update, 1.6 out for H7 - read more
23 Nov 2015: H7 1.4 & 1.5 patches Released - read more
31 Oct 2015: First H7 patches are out, End of DoC development - read more
5 Oct 2016: Heroes VII development comes to an end.. - read more
[X] Remove Ads
LOGIN:     Username:     Password:         [ Register ]
New Server | HOMM1: info forum | HOMM2: info forum | HOMM3: info forum | HOMM4: info forum | HOMM5: info forum | MMH6: wiki forum | MMH7: wiki forum
Heroes Community > Heroes 7 - Falcon's Last Flight > Thread: Heroes 8 confirmed!
Thread: Heroes 8 confirmed! This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
EnergyZ
EnergyZ


Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
posted April 28, 2017 11:30 PM

The images from that site sometimes resize itself, when they are placed on an another site like that.
____________
Come and visit the Might and Magic Wikia!

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
PandaTar
PandaTar


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
posted April 28, 2017 11:36 PM

#selltherightsalready
____________

Heroes-based proposal thread On hold, while I'm writing my book. =)

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted April 29, 2017 11:57 AM

From viki so small. Yes we need big. It must be finished! We need HV!

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 04, 2017 12:11 PM

EnergyZ said:
The images from that site sometimes resize itself, when they are placed on an another site like that.


Oh it's because of the wiki, I never understood why they resize sporadically.
____________
Even Italian restaurants seemed to betray me. -Neraus

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Julien851
Julien851

Tavern Dweller
posted February 02, 2019 10:04 PM

Not a rumour (or a joke) :
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-US/careers/search.aspx#sr-post-id=743999672718060

But we don't know what king of game they want to do...

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
EnergyZ
EnergyZ


Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
posted February 02, 2019 10:27 PM

To be fair, I don't expect any such big projects in a long time. They seem to be more happy with the Chinese market.
____________
Come and visit the Might and Magic Wikia!

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted February 02, 2019 10:32 PM

Julien851 said:
Not a rumour (or a joke) :
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-US/careers/search.aspx#sr-post-id=743999672718060

But we don't know what king of game they want to do...


Old news. We've known about this since June last year.
____________
Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Rakso
Rakso


Adventuring Hero
posted February 02, 2019 10:37 PM

I'd just make a HoMM3 Complete remake in 3D(big creatures also 2hex - it wouldn't look awful) with HD mod UI shortcuts ideas. Wish they do models like HoMM5. HoMM6 and HoMM7 units are too much expensive-looking for my eyes.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Gandalf196
Gandalf196


Known Hero
posted February 02, 2019 11:26 PM

Rakso said:
I'd just make a HoMM3 Complete remake in 3D(big creatures also 2hex - it wouldn't look awful) with HD mod UI shortcuts ideas. Wish they do models like HoMM5. HoMM6 and HoMM7 units are too much expensive-looking for my eyes.


While some part of me sympathizes with the idea of remaking Heroes III Complete, my good sense urges me to repel the thought, because, truth be told, it is not going to work, not matter how hard they try. Heroes III is superb, no question about that, but the mere idea that a product which mimics its carcass could be nearly as superb as the original is foolish, and I give you two reasons for that: first, Heroes III is widely reguarded as the pinnacle of the series, it stands unscathed in the peak of the gaming art. Games can (and constantly are) be compared to it, but itneeds no comparison; it simply is enough in itself, period. That is, a remake would not be a product on its own, but merely a shadow of the original. The second reason is quite more clear in showing why it would not work: nobody can pin the reason(s) why Heroes of Might and Magic III is so goddamn epic. Is it the music ? (Then why is Heroes IV regarded as the ugly duckling of the series?) Is its tremenduously atmospheric graphics ? (could be that too!) But what if we need to include every single element of Heroes III in order to capture its soul? Well, in that case, it just begs the question: "why remake it, then?"
That said, we all love Heroes III, because it has an ineffable ingredient that we cannot describe, but we all recognize as deeply significant. Nothing more can be said. Also, I honestly do not the reason why we should pursue this line; the HotA crew is doing an amazing job, this game is more alive than ever, there's even a new faction coming (soonish), what more could we want?(besides doing some justice to the wizard class, let us not forget that
____________
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Rakso
Rakso


Adventuring Hero
posted February 02, 2019 11:36 PM
Edited by Rakso at 23:38, 02 Feb 2019.

@Gandalf196 Yes, you're right. I didn't reconsider it through, out from the developer's point of view on that case.
Yup, HotA is doing a marvelous job.
Seeing HoMM3 copied 1:1 as a whole, with only 3D graphics in the everywhere would be funny tho. I've just started to immagine how would look like Mountains in 3D, whose use same ammount of red squares as H3 ones. hehe

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
zydar
zydar

Tavern Dweller
posted February 03, 2019 04:03 AM
Edited by zydar at 04:07, 03 Feb 2019.

Make Heroes Great Again!

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted February 03, 2019 02:18 PM

Heroes 3 is not the future of the series. Heroes 8 should stand at the top of that list. It all depends on Ubisoft and their development studios. I personally wouldn't care for a remake of Heroes 3 of any kind. That game continues to live to a niche portion of players through mods, but in the grand scheme of things it's old and outdated. Today's standards have shifted and would not welcome a title that tries to get by as a carbon copy of something else. Hopefully future devs won't make the same mistake Heroes 7 did, there is no reason for them to pigeonhole themselves into thinking they have to live in the shadow of Heroes 3, or Heroes 5 or any other game in the series. Either they look beyond that or they have already failed.
____________
Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted February 03, 2019 06:17 PM
Edited by blob2 at 18:17, 03 Feb 2019.

Stevie said:
Hopefully future devs won't make the same mistake Heroes 7 did, there is no reason for them to pigeonhole themselves into thinking they have to live in the shadow of Heroes 3, or Heroes 5 or any other game in the series. Either they look beyond that or they have already failed.


Being similar to it's predecessors is the only thing this series can go for. We have a few TBS games on the market, but in Heroes series people are looking for something familiar. Let's face it, TBS is a niche genre, and Heroes games will only find buyers in the fans. Which Ubisoft totally blew away. You're able to make a succesful game in the genre (like Age of Wonders 3 for instance), but it will always be a low tier game. That's why it's important to have a solid fanbase which is willing to pay for the games. So the question people at Ubisoft asked themselves was if there is sense in continiuing the franchise in its previous form, or try a different approach which they did.

I understand your point Stevie, it is valid, but frankly I think things look rather grim... the franchise was killed off two times already.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted February 04, 2019 09:50 AM
Edited by Elvin at 09:51, 04 Feb 2019.

Well, good luck winning back the community. And ubi is more interested in mass appeal so they'd rather have the series as dumbed down as humanly possible. This isn't even my own conjecture I'm afraid.
____________
DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted February 04, 2019 10:27 AM

Elvin said:
Well, good luck winning back the community. And ubi is more interested in mass appeal so they'd rather have the series as dumbed down as humanly possible. This isn't even my own conjecture I'm afraid.


That's why I mentioned things look grim. I'm almost certain Ubi won't go back to traditional Heroes games, as it just simply doesn't calculate. The only chance would be if some kind of renaissance of TBS games happened and they used a popular IP to attract people, which is very unlikely. Plus they probably wrote off the Heroes community as "toxic" and they won't count on us.

In the meantime I'm focusing on TBS games for which the developers actually care for (and which generate satisfactory sales as it appears from their blog posts) like Endless Legend, Endless Space 2 and Wargroove...

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Czarlson
Czarlson


Hired Hero
posted February 04, 2019 10:53 AM
Edited by Czarlson at 11:17, 04 Feb 2019.

Stevie said:
Heroes 3 is not the future of the series. Heroes 8 should stand at the top of that list. It all depends on Ubisoft and their development studios. I personally wouldn't care for a remake of Heroes 3 of any kind. That game continues to live to a niche portion of players through mods, but in the grand scheme of things it's old and outdated. Today's standards have shifted and would not welcome a title that tries to get by as a carbon copy of something else. Hopefully future devs won't make the same mistake Heroes 7 did, there is no reason for them to pigeonhole themselves into thinking they have to live in the shadow of Heroes 3, or Heroes 5 or any other game in the series. Either they look beyond that or they have already failed.


@Stevie I totally agree with you that Heroes 8  should stand at the top. Remake it's the last thing which should be done. Heroes 3 has almost 20 years old and in my opinion this world and the narration should move forward → new race, heroes, factions, technologies, planets, terrains etc.

Because I'm rather prefer multilayer mode, so from my point of view this game should back to 2D.
2D doesn't mean that game will be awful (example is Hearthstone) but for sure will be more playable. The biggest advantage of H3 it's playable (especially adventure map is transparent and easier to fast game).

I have to admit that H7 has beautiful graphics of units and quite nice development of heroes, but this is the end of pros. Development of town has grown too much and for multilayer game this is too slow. At the end I need to mention about technical aspect of H7. Loading times, time of AI turn, and AI are really on  the low level. (Doesn't help when the product is released with big number of bugs).    

In my opinion the core should be prepared for multilayer online game. Like we see HotA online works great lot of accounts and  quite big number active player can be step to success.

P.S.
I hope that in Ubi will be some charismatic and full of passion people like in NWC.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted February 04, 2019 11:15 AM

Czarlson said:

2D doesn't mean that game will be awful (example is Hearthstone) but for sure will be more playable. The biggest advantage of H3 it's playable (especially adventure map is transparent and easier to fast game).


You do realize that the boards in Hearthstone are actually full 3d models? Made with Unity.

A good example how nice 2D can work are various indie games or Gwent: Thronebreaker.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Jump To: « Prev Thread . . . Next Thread » This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
Post New Poll Post New Topic Post New Reply

Page compiled in 0.0394 seconds