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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted April 10, 2017 02:44 PM
Edited by Louis_Cyphre at 15:20, 22 May 2017.

Heroes of Might and Magic III Re-make of original Campaigns

After many years of playing this wonderful game i decided to create the remake of original Campaigns of Heroes of Might and Magic III. I started from Armageddon's Blade expansion.

The conception of the idea is saved and significantly scaled in difficulty, size and gameplay. This should be a good challenge for advanced and experienced players as each scenario is set to 200% of difficulty without opportunity to change.

Here is the project list:

[Dragon Slayer]

- Crystal Dragons
 Size: 108 x 108 [L]
 Win: Defeat Crystal Dragons
 Loss: Lose hero "Dracon", Time expires: 3 months

- Rust Dragons:
 Size: 144 x 144 [XL]
 Win: Capture all mines
 Loss: Lose hero "Dracon", Time expires: 6 months

- Faerie Dragons:
 Size: 144 x 144 [XL]
 Win: Defeat Faerie Dragons
 Loss: Lose hero "Dracon", Time expires: 7 months

- Azure Dragons
 Size:  180 x 180 [XXL]
 Win: Defeat Azure Dragons
 Loss: Lose hero "Dracon", Time expires: 9 months

Download: Dragon Slayer
Last Update: 22.05.2017
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[Armageddon's Blade] In progress

- Catherine's Charge
 Status: Finished
 Size: 108 x 108 [L]
 Win: Defeat all enemies
 Loss: Lose hero "Catherine"
 Link: Download
 
- Seeking Armageddon
 Status: Finished
 Size: 108 x 108 [L]
 Win: Get Sword of Hellfire, Breastplate of Brimstone, Shield of the Damned
 Loss: Lose hero "Xeron"
 Link: Download

- Shadows of the Forest
 Status: Finished
 Size: 108 x 108 [L]
 Win: Defeat all enemies
 Loss: Lose hero "Gelu"
 Link: Download

- Maker of Sorrows
 Status: In progress
 Size: 144 x 144 [XL]
 Win: Acquire Armageddon's Blade
 Loss: Lose hero "Xeron"
 Link: N/A

- Return of the King TBA
- A Blade in the Back TBA
- To Kill a Hero TBA
- Oblivion's Edge TBA
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Campaign Installation Guide:
Download the  file and put it in Maps folder. Start the game, select "New Game" -> "New Campaign" -> "Armageddon's Blade" and choose Dragon's Slayer campaign.
Do not run the map from "Custom" option as it will break some rules of the game.

If you wish to see how mapping process goes then visit my youtube channel and watch a livestream here: Youtube/LouisCyphre


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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted April 12, 2017 08:34 AM
Edited by Baronus at 08:35, 12 Apr 2017.

Great work! Thanks! We need another viev! A lot of original campaigns are to easy for veterans. RoE campaigns are in fact only tutorials for beginners and need modding.
You modded texts too or only objects?

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Promising
Famous Hero
posted April 12, 2017 08:49 AM

Hahah, finally someone did this. I hope your project will grow also at RoE and Chronicles Campaigns!
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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted April 12, 2017 09:32 AM
Edited by Louis_Cyphre at 11:58, 12 Apr 2017.

Baronus said:
Great work! Thanks! We need another viev! A lot of original campaigns are to easy for veterans. RoE campaigns are in fact only tutorials for beginners and need modding.
You modded texts too or only objects?


I didn't touch texts, but added some additional. The conception as i said was left untouched, just harder, wider, better, greater.

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted April 12, 2017 10:46 AM

Great! Its very good choice. I want it once again but on higher map level design. Tell us what you do!

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted April 12, 2017 11:50 AM

Baronus said:
Great! Its very good choice. I want it once again but on higher map level design. Tell us what you do!


Now i think about to start re-making Armageddon's Blade or Festival of Life. And i really like to hear comments, critics and suggestions on this. I spent 3 months to make it D:

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted April 12, 2017 05:04 PM

Hard work. All map making manually done. Only ground from picture but its small part of work. Congratulations. And a lot of succeses in work :-)

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kicferk
kicferk


Known Hero
posted April 12, 2017 06:36 PM

Just done with first map, much more fun than original one.

A few notes:
Monolith on 107/46/0 is a totally dead end. Of course earth book is by far best start option and has TP, but I suppose there should be a way out of there
Seer hut at 12/27/0 doesn't have a reward for beating diamond golems, perhaps intentionally to slow people down.

Also, I found upgrading mages to enchanters too costly in terms of movement, since HotA removes a feature(they call it bug) of neutral creatures allowing to avoid terrain penalty. So I did it for the underground only.

All in all fun map, probably it's possible to finish it and get all upgrades a month early or so, but I like dwellings and hillfort in it that allow for building up a bit more of an army if you spend a bit longer in it.

I assume we don't get the choice of second map(like in original) for balance reasons?

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted April 12, 2017 07:58 PM
Edited by Louis_Cyphre at 20:19, 12 Apr 2017.

Thanks a lot kicferk for showing me my mistakes and for response. Glad you liked it. I've updated the map with fixed monolith and seer's hut issues.

Quote:
I assume we don't get the choice of second map(like in original) for balance reasons?

As in original - you have a choice between Rust and Faerie Dragons. I have tested playing Rust and Faerie as a second scenario, must be okay.


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kicferk
kicferk


Known Hero
posted April 13, 2017 10:55 AM

Done with Rust dragons, no errors found.

Is the army supposed to transfer to next scenario(Faerie dragons for me)? I got the whole huge army from Rust Dragons scenario, so I checked in campaign editor and it seems it's how it's set. I think it might ruin the balance of 3rd map a little

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted April 13, 2017 12:49 PM
Edited by Louis_Cyphre at 12:55, 13 Apr 2017.

kicferk said:
Done with Rust dragons, no errors found.

Is the army supposed to transfer to next scenario(Faerie dragons for me)? I got the whole huge army from Rust Dragons scenario, so I checked in campaign editor and it seems it's how it's set. I think it might ruin the balance of 3rd map a little


I don't know why it happened to you. I've just tested and nothing was transfered. Do you play the campaign from Custom Campaigns options?

You supposed to add slayer.h3c to maps folder and to execute it like you start the original compaign. So it is "New Game" -> "New Campaign" -> "Armageddon's Blade" -> "Dragon Slayer".

EDIT:

Yes, you're playing with custom campaign option. It shouldn't be like that, since loss conditions, other scripts can't be activated fully. You still continiue the game when Dracon dies for example. My bad, i should have been said it in first post

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kicferk
kicferk


Known Hero
posted April 13, 2017 01:34 PM

Alright, no worries Gonna replay it, thanks.

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Famous Hero
posted April 13, 2017 01:57 PM

I played 1st scenario so far on HotA. So far tome of Earth is best option. Did you ban slow in mage guild? I restarted like 15 times and i could get haste, bless, magic arrow, bloodlust etc. but no slow.

For starting skills i recommend logistics, pathfinding, archery, Dracon don't need wisdom in first scenario, becuase mage guild is capped to level 2.

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted April 13, 2017 02:07 PM
Edited by Louis_Cyphre at 14:40, 13 Apr 2017.

zmudziak22 said:
I played 1st scenario so far on HotA. So far tome of Earth is best option. Did you ban slow in mage guild? I restarted like 15 times and i could get haste, bless, magic arrow, bloodlust etc. but no slow.

For starting skills i recommend logistics, pathfinding, archery, Dracon don't need wisdom in first scenario, becuase mage guild is capped to level 2.


Slow magic and Berserk are banned from all scenarios. However, you're able to get them through spell scrolls (only Faerie Dragon Scenario)

Quote:
For starting skills i recommend logistics, pathfinding, archery, Dracon don't need wisdom in first scenario, becuase mage guild is capped to level 2.

you forgot about next scenarios, where wisdom is needed.

And i guess i gonna ban Tome of Earth magic from starting options.

Quote:
Alright, no worries  Gonna replay it, thanks.

Just delete your whole army from previous scenario and continiue on your own) no need to replay. Thanks for support!

EDIT: issues fixed and link updated

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Famous Hero
posted April 13, 2017 05:54 PM

Yeah I know, about wisdom, but you don't need it in 1st scenario, because you limit mage guild to level 2.

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kicferk
kicferk


Known Hero
posted April 14, 2017 11:43 AM

Faerie dragons went fine, started mission with azures.

I see the original concept of no mana regen on the entire map was discarded in favor of less army and larger battles. If it makes map too easy maybe you could replace it with occasional pandora boxes with mana?  

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted April 14, 2017 01:22 PM

kicferk said:
Faerie dragons went fine, started mission with azures.

I see the original concept of no mana regen on the entire map was discarded in favor of less army and larger battles. If it makes map too easy maybe you could replace it with occasional pandora boxes with mana?  


Actually "no Mana" concept was removed. Since the map is huge. But i liked the idea with pandora boxes. Gonna think about it.

Once again thank you kicferk for replies.

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kicferk
kicferk


Known Hero
posted April 14, 2017 05:35 PM

Finished.

Good map, but I would think twice about putting air book in(seer hut at 93/16/0). I managed to beat pandora box guarding one of occurrences of white tent on 326, and with DD/fly you can bypass quite a chunk of map.

As for mana, I used a ton for the 'stucked sword'(probably 200 or so) and then again for hydras(more like 1300 for both fights). Then for box guarding white tent(around 500 I guess) and for series of events leading up to set of gold bags(1000 or so for all). After that I generally had enough army to smash through everything without too many spells, especially with Armor of the Damned, I only needed to resurrect stuff after faeries. And of course the final fights with azure dragons and that garrison.

The above could be reduced by quite a bit by bringing some magi, but since I had intelligence, 90+ knowledge and knew mana is everywhere I didn't bother.

Great job on the campaign!

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted April 14, 2017 05:55 PM
Edited by Louis_Cyphre at 18:03, 14 Apr 2017.

kicferk said:


Good map, but I would think twice about putting air book in(seer hut at 93/16/0). I managed to beat pandora box guarding one of occurrences of white tent on 326, and with DD/fly you can bypass quite a chunk of map.  

lolwhat, it supposed to be a trap! And you passed it
I'll just increase the amount of army in that garrison, in order to prevent everyone to pass it.

Thanks a lot for critics and testing!

EDIT:

Map updated!

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted May 12, 2017 04:06 PM

You are makinig new one! Fantastic news! Good work and very needed. Campaigns for champions. Past a lot of years it needed remake but in master level. NWC creators havent time to do it brilliant. They ,,produced" it fast and in HCh very weak. But it was economic reason. Bad financial situation of 3DO. Now we can extract all good and repair it.

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