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Promising
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posted July 18, 2020 11:45 AM

Plamen4o0o said:
I'm sorry for the tread but don't know how to get them ((

In first post you'll get all informations.
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Plamen4o0o

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posted July 18, 2020 01:49 PM

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Plamen4o0o said:
I'm sorry for the tread but don't know how to get them ((

In first post you'll get all informations.


Ok. I think i'm not so stupid... but i told you that i build everything possible in town (even that new building that must for 3rd upgraded units). Even then i can get upgrade all units to they're 3-rd lvl. and still can't figure out how to upgrade 7+ lvl monsters to Supreme archangel, guardian of zeus, red bone dragon and etc.
After few hours of testing i find that all works only in Conflux. Only there when i build all i can get these Divine Phoenix. In not any other town i can't get these Super 8+ lvl units. Most of time when i try to start random map (with Wog option for 8 lvl dwellings and 8lvl dwellings function as normal ) the game crash. Only when i choose conflux i can start game and go and get Divine Phoenix in town.
Something doesn't work or i can't do it properly. Please help!
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Promising
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posted July 18, 2020 02:02 PM
Edited by kongsuni at 14:03, 18 Jul 2020.

plz build special building by right-clicking your townhall.

"Specials Buildings for Upgrades!

Now every town can have a new building that is used as a general 'upgrade guild'. Thanks to this the player will be able to upgrade creatures in the town to their new forms.
Each town type has a different building, a different description, a different animation and a different cost.
To try to build the new building RIGHT-click on your Town Hall (or Village Hall, City Hall, or Capitol).
You have always only one prerequisite to build - you must have a Castle. And of course, you have to have the right resources:

for the Heavenly Tower (Castle) you need:        22000 gold, 30 gems and 30 ore
for the Order of The Sun (Rampart) you need:     20000 gold, 25 crystal and 40 wood
for the Cloud Castle (Tower) you need:           25000 gold, 30 gems and 15 mercury
for the Kreegans' Gate (Inferno) you need:       19000 gold, 30 mercury and 15 sulfur
for the Hall of The Pit (Necropolis) you need:   21000 gold, 25 mercury and 35 wood
for the Underworld Entrance (Dungeon) you need:  23000 gold, 30 sulfur and 35 ore
for the Barbarian Citadel (Stronghold) you need: 19000 gold, 60 ore and 15 crystal
for the Temple of The Snake (Fortress) you need: 18000 gold, 50 wood and 20 sulfur
for the Escaton's Crystal (Conflux) you need:    20000 gold, 30 crystal and 15 gems"


Plamen4o0o said:
avatar said:
Plamen4o0o said:
I'm sorry for the tread but don't know how to get them ((

In first post you'll get all informations.


Ok. I think i'm not so stupid... but i told you that i build everything possible in town (even that new building that must for 3rd upgraded units). Even then i can get upgrade all units to they're 3-rd lvl. and still can't figure out how to upgrade 7+ lvl monsters to Supreme archangel, guardian of zeus, red bone dragon and etc.
After few hours of testing i find that all works only in Conflux. Only there when i build all i can get these Divine Phoenix. In not any other town i can't get these Super 8+ lvl units. Most of time when i try to start random map (with Wog option for 8 lvl dwellings and 8lvl dwellings function as normal ) the game crash. Only when i choose conflux i can start game and go and get Divine Phoenix in town.
Something doesn't work or i can't do it properly. Please help!

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Plamen4o0o

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posted July 18, 2020 02:10 PM

kongsuni said:
plz build special building by right-clicking your townhall.

"Specials Buildings for Upgrades!

Now every town can have a new building that is used as a general 'upgrade guild'. Thanks to this the player will be able to upgrade creatures in the town to their new forms.
Each town type has a different building, a different description, a different animation and a different cost.
To try to build the new building RIGHT-click on your Town Hall (or Village Hall, City Hall, or Capitol).
You have always only one prerequisite to build - you must have a Castle. And of course, you have to have the right resources:

for the Heavenly Tower (Castle) you need:        22000 gold, 30 gems and 30 ore
for the Order of The Sun (Rampart) you need:     20000 gold, 25 crystal and 40 wood
for the Cloud Castle (Tower) you need:           25000 gold, 30 gems and 15 mercury
for the Kreegans' Gate (Inferno) you need:       19000 gold, 30 mercury and 15 sulfur
for the Hall of The Pit (Necropolis) you need:   21000 gold, 25 mercury and 35 wood
for the Underworld Entrance (Dungeon) you need:  23000 gold, 30 sulfur and 35 ore
for the Barbarian Citadel (Stronghold) you need: 19000 gold, 60 ore and 15 crystal
for the Temple of The Snake (Fortress) you need: 18000 gold, 50 wood and 20 sulfur
for the Escaton's Crystal (Conflux) you need:    20000 gold, 30 crystal and 15 gems"


I made that. But even then i can't get 4th upgrade on 7 lvl unit. Work only on Conflux. I make same for all towns and doesn't work. Only in Conflux work these upgrades  

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posted July 18, 2020 02:11 PM

Plamen4o0o said:

Please help!

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=46241&PID=1518390#focus

From version 1.12.0 thse creatures are only available at lvl8 dwellings.
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Plamen4o0o

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posted July 18, 2020 02:43 PM
Edited by Plamen4o0o at 14:44, 18 Jul 2020.

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Plamen4o0o said:

Please help!

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=46241&PID=1518390#focus

From version 1.12.0 thse creatures are only available at lvl8 dwellings.


You mean that in latest version that i download from topic/first post i can't get them in town?
If i start random map with 8 lvl dwellings loading crash every time
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posted July 18, 2020 02:53 PM

Plamen4o0o said:

You mean that in latest version that i download from topic/first post i can't get them in town?
If i start random map with 8 lvl dwellings loading crash every time

Author said somewhere at forum, that you must remove manually old mod version, then install the newest.
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posted July 18, 2020 02:57 PM

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Plamen4o0o said:


Author said somewhere at forum, that you must remove manually old mod version, then install the newest.


I don't have any old mods. I downloaded ERA II from http://heroes3wog.net/era-2-download/ , next i download this mod from here ( first post version 1.12.2 ) and then... all this happen. Where i get wrong ?
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Supreme Hero
posted July 18, 2020 03:00 PM

ERA gaming build is more friendly for user.
http://heroes3wog.net/how-to-install-heroes-3-era-gaming-build/
Follow those intructions.
But please install this at clean Heroes3 version.
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Undeadgamer62


Hired Hero
posted July 18, 2020 04:08 PM

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ERA gaming build is more friendly for user.
http://heroes3wog.net/how-to-install-heroes-3-era-gaming-build/
Follow those intructions.
But please install this at clean Heroes3 version.

I'll second that. Every time I upgrade a mod now, I delete the old version first. If I'm going to upgrade something like ERA, I start in a clean HOMM3 installation, install the new ERA, then reinstall the latest versions of all the mods I use. The installation routines just extract files into appropriate folders. They don't delete any old files that might have different names, and these apparently can cause problems. I've had trouble every time I've tried to install over an old version.

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posted July 18, 2020 04:18 PM

Plamen4o0o said:
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Plamen4o0o said:

Please help!

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=46241&PID=1518390#focus

From version 1.12.0 thse creatures are only available at lvl8 dwellings.


You mean that in latest version that i download from topic/first post i can't get them in town?
If i start random map with 8 lvl dwellings loading crash every time

Consistent crashes like that may indicate some kind of compatibility problem, but since it's not happening to all of us, it suggests that you may have different settings that are causing a problem or that something went wrong with one of the installation processes.

I experience occasional crashes (somewhat more since the ERA scripts update that just came out), but normally, I just reload from the last save (I have autosave enabled), and the crash doesn't recur. I've never had a situation in which the crash occurs during the wogification process, though. I'd try again with a clean install and the gaming build, as suggested. If that doesn't work, you might want to experiment with different settings to see what happens. I had troubles recently with the game crashing at the end of the first turn, which I solved by disabling Battle Queue (which worked when it was included in the most recent gaming build but had problems when I installed the updated ERA scripts package).

Sadly, modding is a complicated process, and it's easy for small gitches to develop that only show up under some circumstances. I even had crashes sometimes with the original, unmodded game.

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posted July 18, 2020 05:46 PM
Edited by Plamen4o0o at 17:55, 18 Jul 2020.

Consistent crashes like that may indicate some kind of compatibility problem, but since it's not happening to all of us, it suggests that you may have different settings that are causing a problem or that something went wrong with one of the installation processes.

I experience occasional crashes (somewhat more since the ERA scripts update that just came out), but normally, I just reload from the last save (I have autosave enabled), and the crash doesn't recur. I've never had a situation in which the crash occurs during the wogification process, though. I'd try again with a clean install and the gaming build, as suggested. If that doesn't work, you might want to experiment with different settings to see what happens. I had troubles recently with the game crashing at the end of the first turn, which I solved by disabling Battle Queue (which worked when it was included in the most recent gaming build but had problems when I installed the updated ERA scripts package).

Sadly, modding is a complicated process, and it's easy for small gitches to develop that only show up under some circumstances. I even had crashes sometimes with the original, unmodded game.


Ok. I lost now almost all day and more to find out how to get these 7+ lvl creature upgraded. I uninstall all Heroes that i have on laptop, I buy that Heroes 3 complete, followed instruction how to install ERA II, i download that mod from from here, started the game, played, build all + that new right-click building on capitol , i get that blood dragon to see again that can't upgrade him to f*uckin Red bone dragon. Is there have something in Wog-option that i must to check to can get these creatures??? When i play with Conflux i don't have these problem, after gettin Sacred Phoenix i can upgrade it to Divine Phoenix, but for all other towns CAN'T GET THESE UPGRADES - WHY ? Why with Conflux don't have problems but with other towns can't these 4th upgrade ??
To be clear - with Conflux all run ok, but with other towns can't get upgrade them to red bone, master archangel, pure diamond, antichrist and etc.
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posted July 18, 2020 05:57 PM
Edited by avatar at 17:58, 18 Jul 2020.

I told you, VMaiko, author of this mod, from 1.12.0 version gave up with idead of fourth upgrades of 8 lvl creatures, except Conlux. So it's not a bug, it's a feature.
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Plamen4o0o

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posted July 18, 2020 06:14 PM
Edited by Plamen4o0o at 18:18, 18 Jul 2020.

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I told you, VMaiko, author of this mod, from 1.12.0 version gave up with idead of fourth upgrades of 8 lvl creatures, except Conlux. So it's not a bug, it's a feature.


Its only in these 8 lvl dwellings right? Do i need to check in wog-option "Level 8 dwellings" ? And today i played maybe 10 maps and didn't see any of them on map (with checked box in "Level 8 dwelling" )
And you told me that i can't upgrade to 8 lvl any of them exept Phoenixes in town and must to find that "lvl 8 dwelling" somewhere on the map right?
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posted July 18, 2020 06:27 PM

In the next update I'll specify in the original thread that only the fourth upgrades in level 8 dwellings can be obtained, the case of the Sacred Phoenixes to Divine Phoenixes I don't know how you players manage to obtain it in that way, but it should not be so, in the next update can be obtained in 2 ways, with level 8 dwellings or in Hill Fort (on Hill Fort in the next update).

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posted July 18, 2020 06:33 PM
Edited by fanofheroes at 18:39, 18 Jul 2020.

Plamen4o0o said:
avatar said:
I told you, VMaiko, author of this mod, from 1.12.0 version gave up with idead of fourth upgrades of 8 lvl creatures, except Conlux. So it's not a bug, it's a feature.


Its only in these 8 lvl dwellings right? Do i need to check in wog-option "Level 8 dwellings" ? And today i played maybe 10 maps and didn't see any of them on map (with checked box in "Level 8 dwelling" )
And you told me that i can't upgrade to 8 lvl any of them exept Phoenixes in town and must to find that "lvl 8 dwelling" somewhere on the map right?



This idea may work a little bit to help you get the units without having to do much. Before the authors made the change the progression was (IE for castle):

angel < archangel < supreme archangel < master archangel
now it's:
angel < archangel < supreme archangel

I haven't tried it yet but it should work, the only downside is that it will work only in "Hill Forts" i believe.  

If you open up the "MCrEdit.exe" file (located: thirdUpgradeMod/eraPlugins/MCrEdit) you can scroll through it and edit the units and what they upgrade to.  You can put supreme archangel (unit #150) to upgrade to master archangel (unit #202) and do so for the other level 7 units so that they can upgrade to the 4th unit as well.  

At least this way, you can't recruit the units from a town, but possibly upgrade them at a hill fort to get them in the game.  

a band-aid solution that can give you the units at least.


edit: I replied at the same time as VMaiko, but yes, we can always wait for the next update.  They get better each time and we are all greatful for the work put in







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posted July 18, 2020 06:42 PM

VMaiko said:
In the next update I'll specify in the original thread that only the fourth upgrades in level 8 dwellings can be obtained, the case of the Sacred Phoenixes to Divine Phoenixes I don't know how you players manage to obtain it in that way, but it should not be so, in the next update can be obtained in 2 ways, with level 8 dwellings or in Hill Fort (on Hill Fort in the next update).

Are you serious? That mod are released 5 months ago and didn't mention that we can't buy these 8 lvl creatures in town? And that with Conflux? Because of that i spend all day, money ( to buy this GOG heroes), nerves, 2 packs of cigarettes to find where i'm getting wrong...I'm really mad ind tired
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posted July 18, 2020 06:51 PM

Plamen4o0o said:
avatar said:
I told you, VMaiko, author of this mod, from 1.12.0 version gave up with idead of fourth upgrades of 8 lvl creatures, except Conlux. So it's not a bug, it's a feature.


Its only in these 8 lvl dwellings right? Do i need to check in wog-option "Level 8 dwellings" ? And today i played maybe 10 maps and didn't see any of them on map (with checked box in "Level 8 dwelling" )
And you told me that i can't upgrade to 8 lvl any of them exept Phoenixes in town and must to find that "lvl 8 dwelling" somewhere on the map right?

Yes, as VMaiko and Avatar said, you need to obtain the fourth upgrade creatures from level 8 creature dwellings.

Why the dwelling aren't appearing on any of the maps you're playing is a mystery to me. Some always appear on the random maps I've played. Double-check to make sure the option is still selected. (I've sometimes forgotten to save after checking an option, or I've accidentally hit load instead of save and wiped out all my changes.)

There is also another possibility. Did you remember to check *Replace Objects During Wogification*? Its at the top of the "New Advanture Objects" section of the Objects and Artifacts tab. (Level Eight Dwellings" is at the bottom of the same section.) And yes, I did make that mistake the first time I used ERA-Wog. I was playing along, wondering where all the Wog objects were. When I went back and checked my settings, sure enough, that option was unchecked, which meant that none of my Wog settings regarding objects were being implemented.

Finally, check the first tab to see if you've selected under the WoGify section of the first tab. I've found that sometimes the "WoGify all maps but ASK before WoGifying" setting doesn't work. I think that is related to the problem that the setting that displays wogification messages often fails to fire. This could mean that you won't get the message asking if you want to wogify. Or maybe the two problems are unrelated, but clearly, something is amiss in that area. So if you have the ask option enabled, pick a different one.

At least, it sounds as if you overcame the crashing problem, so you're making headway.

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VMaiko


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posted July 18, 2020 06:52 PM

All the information of the thread will be updated once the major update of the mod is release, excuse the inconvenience.

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Plamen4o0o

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posted July 18, 2020 07:25 PM

VMaiko said:
All the information of the thread will be updated once the major update of the mod is release, excuse the inconvenience.


Its ok dude but make it simple : "...must to make this, this, this and this. Don't make this, this and this if you want to run your game correct and play it happily..." that's all. Make it easy for us that are not master degree in computer science to install it and to play loved game. Cheers from me and be healthy
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