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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: The ideal HoMM: where do Dwarves belong?
Thread: The ideal HoMM: where do Dwarves belong? This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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posted June 18, 2020 01:46 AM

Well, they had both human-looking golems and monster-looking golems, so I don't see the problem here.
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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


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posted June 18, 2020 12:39 PM

Armageddon Blade Crystal Dragon was also Golem. He was made by Dracon's Mother using Crystals and Bones of Dragons along with Wizard Magic to animate them.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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posted June 18, 2020 01:03 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 13:03, 18 Jun 2020.

What are we even talking about anymore? I mean, ok, create golems of all shapes and sizes (Crystal Dragons are an exception in a certain area, since they're alive), but what was the point of this thing with golems?
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TheYellowDart
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posted June 25, 2020 08:06 PM

Well, we see in MM7 that the Dwarves are a separate faction - they live under the Barrow Downs in south-central Antagarich, between the Contested Lands and Bracada.

Lore-wise troops that fight for a town aren't always native to that town - some of them are allies. This is spelled out explicitly in the Long Live the Queen campaign, in which we see Erathia's standing army (Pikemen, Archers, Swordsmen, Monks, and Cavaliers) work to recruit Angels and Griffins into its ranks. It's also pretty clear in towns like Dungeon - most of Nighon's population is human, but being a Thay-esque magocracy means that in lieu of a standing army they have a variety of creatures that they managed to persuade to fight for them.

These two things taken together indicate that Dwarves aren't citizens of AvLee and their presence in the Rampart town is likely the result of an alliance between Dwarves and Elves. So I think it's entirely feasible that this alliance is temporary. Geographically and politically Dwarves joining Bracada (Tower) would actually make a lot of sense. It would be possible to have Dwarves branch out and become a new faction, although it'd take some thought as to what sort of allies they could bring to the fray (Giant Moles could be cool, although maybe I've just been playing too much Age of Wonders).

Now, that's all lore-wise. The other question is gameplay-wise. What do the Dwarves bring to the Rampart town? What role do they fill? Could Rampart do without that role, or with that role altered? If they move to Tower, which unit would they replace? What would they accomplish that other units don't? Would they overlap too much with Golems? If they become their own faction, what would they bring to the table that other factions don't? Each faction has a "thing," what would be the Dwarves' thing?
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