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LordCameron
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posted September 20, 2023 05:12 AM |
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How are you supposed to beat PoL Final Boss
Ibn Fahdn has hundreds if not over a thousand Vampires, Liches, and Dragons, and 250 Ghosts.
I'm just cheesing him with Phoenixes, but it's like a month of mindless spellcasting, I doubt that's what the developers intendid.
What are you "supposed" to do against this guy to beat him in a normal playthrough?
My only guess is that he's supposed to share his undead but FHeroes mod is making him hog them all for himself.
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baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted September 20, 2023 12:05 PM |
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Sometimes in H2 map is horrible like this. At the end 500 Black Dragons.
1 solution Save editor and boosting your army. But it fheroes2 there is not.
2 solution Play another map. We have a lot.
3 you can search all mage guilds maybe you found clonnig ressurection etc. It gives you powerfull bost!
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted September 21, 2023 05:13 PM |
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LordCameron said:
What are you "supposed" to do against this guy to beat him in a normal playthrough?
1. Pick Barbarian for a main, if possible (makes the most out of your army). I don't remember which mission is this, was it the one where you get a town portal from day 1? If yes, you can win fairly easily by amassing Titans from all your towns. Just commit to getting as much gold as possible. Titans on a high level barbarian are completely broken. Buff them with steelskin, bless and alike to make them even more ridiculous.
2. Play better (get more gold, better artifacts, more troops, better strategy).
H2 PoL is actually capable of providing a challenge, the AI is relentless and some campaigns ("Descendants"... ahem...) are borderline unfair. I remember being bombed 24/7 by 15+ allstats heroes in the final "Descendants" mission, all trying to take my cities, all using Dimension door. They just didn't want to stay dead either. I'd kill a hero and he'd be back in like 2-3 weeks and the AI would hire him back LOL
I finally won by checking the tavern every day and buying those pests for myself.
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LordCameron
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posted September 21, 2023 05:32 PM |
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(Yeah it's the one where you get town portal from the start)
Okay I beat the campaign. In retrospect I could probably do the final mission several months faster with slightly better techniques against the final hero. For future people looking for answers here's my tips.
First of all, FHeroes vs normal Heroes AI is going to be a different experience. I watched some youtube videos of people playing the original campaign and the AI splits up the insane amount of undead among multiple heroes rather than making a ridiculous power stack, which in some ways makes things easier, but they are less afraid to cast spells so it's a mix of both.
For the FHeroes version (Which I played), the AI didn't waste spell power as long as my army was weak enough compared to theirs. This was their mistake, because it doesn't count Spell Power and Knowledge as part of your army strength.
So what you do is attack the main hero with 6 one stacks of phoenixes and cast chain lightning on everything but their bone dragons and then surrender before they kill any of your units. Rinse and repeat until they only have Bone Dragons left (Or at least less than 20 or so of the other units)
Why chain lighting? Because it's the highest damage single target spell I had access to, and I think it's the highest in the game. Elemental storm does more damage to the army, but that's damage wasted on Bone Dragons, which we'll be killing through a different method.
Once everyone else is dead you want the strongest single stack of ranged units you can get. Probably Titans or Arch-Magic, but I also did good with Trolls.
Fill the rest of your army with single stack phoenixes and remember to visit the magic spring in the top left of the map before going into combat.
Surround your ranged units with phoenixes and wipe out the non-bone dragons with Holy Shout or equivalent.
Dragon kills a phoenix. Fly other phoenix into spot of dead phoenix and buff your archers with a spell like Bless or Dragon Slayer.
Dragon kills phoenix again and now you just resurrect them every time they die. For now at least the AI won't waste spells other than to Anti-Magic the Bone Dragon because they're so much strong than you. Just keep blasting the Bone Dragons while resurrecting their guards, and surrender once you run out of mana and your archers die and you only have two phoenixes left. (Or surrender with your archers if you are rich).
You can probably kill 300+ dragons per fight this way depending on the number of Titans/Archmagi.
Don't fall for the trap of using Resurrect true or resurrecting your archers instead of giving them a resurrecting guard.
This was the best I came up with. Had to adjust a lot on the fly and I'm sure there is a refinement, but I think that's basically it.
Also keep the necromancers trapped on their island with someone standing on the portal because you do not want them in the wild.
I won't go into strategy about how to actually play the map because that's the fun part for the player to figure out. This is just my "How to beat way too many bone dragons before you get carpal tunnel from just rushing them with elemental storm 200 times."
That said slight spoiler below to aid with getting into position if you're having troubles with that:
If you didn't notice, it's possible to very precisely dimension door to their island (At least once you've scouted it out.)
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted September 21, 2023 06:10 PM |
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I'm pretty sure I beat the 500 Bone dragons encounter on that map with like 30 titans, huge ATT/DEF and some "Resurrect True" in the end.
It's a super fan map, btw. "Descendants" campaign final map is worse and much harder. Rushing the enemy is absolutely mandatory; there's just way too many towns and way too many dimension dooring AI heroes going after them.
I actually think it's the hardest map in the entire HoMM franchise, along maybe with Hota's campaign 2 mission 2 on impossible (which is a rush or die map, but it's doable despite some reddit folks claiming it's not).
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