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privatehudson
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posted September 29, 2002 06:35 PM |
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Romana's right, she does do that, she told me 
And yes she also has no life 
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andiangelsla...
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posted September 29, 2002 06:38 PM |
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I have already said why I left. I really like Heroes 4, I think it's better than Heroes 3... but I don't play it.
I played it for a month and then stopped. It's the same case with a friend of mine - he likes everything in the game... but doesn't play it.
And the problem is that there is absolutely NO reason for this!!!
because h4 sux you tosser...
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IYY
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posted September 29, 2002 06:46 PM |
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No, H4 does not suck. It's a cool game with nice graphics that is better than most of the games made today. The thing is that it's not better than H3 (but then again, in my opinion, H2 is better than H3), so don't blame the game - sometimes it's just hard to improve something that is already great. Maybe H5 will do better, we'll see.
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andiangelsla...
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posted September 29, 2002 06:54 PM |
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(but then again, in my opinion, H2 is better than H3), so don't blame the game
how rediculous can it get? h2 better than h3, thats like saying 1 beer is better than a sixpack...man some of you really mastered tossing to perfection...you ever looked at the h2 graphics and building again after playing h3? lmao
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IYY
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posted September 29, 2002 07:07 PM |
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In fact, I did. After playing H3 and H4 I just downloaded (oops, don't take me away.... it's just and old game....) H2 to play it for fun. You know, just for the memories of the good ole days. So I run this game with a smile but then I see the graphics and whoa! It looks better than H3 and 4 put together! So the resolution is not so great, and everything is not 3D but who cares? Instead of focusing on the graphics of the game, you see that the artists actually created art! I mean, that game just looks good. You can see that the artists didn't care about how many polygons they had and how many cool looking light sources they use, but instead focus on things such as composition, design, colour, beauty etc.
Then we get to music, and there I think I have many people to agree with me. The opera of Heroes 2 is just it! Once again, instead of creating fancy effects and cool overlaping, they have actual music that I would have bought and listened to just by itself. The music is used perfectly to create mood and add power to the game.
Now for gameplay and creatures. Although the game is not as advanced, it's still just as fun to play. You still have all of those adventure objects and creature dwellings, the battles are still pure strategy and to win the game you need just as much tactical thinking skills as in H3 and H4. So there aren't as many creatures as in the other games, but those creatures they have are what the Heroes series is all about. They are mythical animals that fit in the town's philosophy.
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Aculias
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posted September 30, 2002 12:28 AM |
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(but then again, in my opinion, H2 is better than H3), so don't blame the game
how rediculous can it get? h2 better than h3, thats like saying 1 beer is better than a sixpack...man some of you really mastered tossing to perfection...you ever looked at the h2 graphics and building again after playing h3? lmao
WOw Andi are these guys beating you in tossing.
Oh wait you are king tosser so I guess it is safe to say you think heroes 1 is better then 3 & 1 zima is stronger then a 6 pack of the strongest Beer .
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malkia
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posted September 30, 2002 03:27 AM |
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blah blah blah
Techically and aestethically Heroes4 is hard to play, i don't enjoy it.
I don't like the fact that you can split your armies - this way your possible variations of play increase so much that it's hard to know if you are doing it the best way.
I don't like the fact that hero must be part of the battle - and fight against 1000 sprites or whatever - it doesn't matter how strong he is - as 1000 sprites will duh him.
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Shae_Trielle
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of Heroes
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posted September 30, 2002 07:19 AM |
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I'm still here!!!!
You know, I was going to post a topic about this whole thing, but I saw this thread first, so I'll say it here.
There are many many people who enjoyed Heroes 3. This board started in the days of Heroes 3 and many of us helped to get it to where it is now. That being said, our love of this board was borne from the ideal that the community had one thing in common: love of the game.
Since the release of Heroes 4, I have gone to Europe and spent a lot of time away from the internet. I did it purposefully because I felt that too much of my life was being spent looking at a screen and talking far too much about something which I believed was critical to my whole well being. I thought I'd die if I didn't get my daily dose of Heroes or of the Community board.
To tell you the truth, as soon as I boarded the plane, I kinda let myself go and knew at that point that I would never go back to being a Heroes girl like a once was. Heroes 4 was coming and I was going to be overseas and without a computer to play it. I would have had to wait until I got back to Melbourne before I could sink my teeth into it.
Six months and I came back, after having had the best time of my life. It was unbelievable in Europe, I enjoyed it so much more as an adult than when I did when I was a little kid. But being back in Australia and back in familiar surrounds also brought back the familiar pang for the internet and the HC.
I miss this place more than you guys could ever know. But I can't be here like I used to, not in the capacity that I once was and I knew even back then that someday, my ability to visit the site would be diminished. Perhaps it is the reason why I never put my hand up for being a Moderator. I can't keep an eye on something when I don't actually take the time to look at it.
However, it's not the end, it's just that I feel like things have moved on without me, whether they have become better or worse here is something I still have yet to see, but regardless of my opinion, I have no connection with Heroes 4. I don't play it online, I have no computer, and therefore I don't even own it. I have played it, yes. Six hours though is not quite enough to make a proper judgement on it though and so I keep such things in reservation until the time when I can well and truly sink my teeth into HoMM4 and see what it's truly like. I believe though, that it may be tactically limited and strategically unlimited, which is something that will suit a strategist like myself and frustrate the tacticians who like to play.
What I really wonder though, is now that HoMM4 has been released and the reception is a mixed one, do people who enjoy HoMM3 become invalid members of the HC? I think that perhaps this is the one thing which will cause the board no end of bickering and frustrating arguments.
I don't play HoMM4, but I did play HoMM3. Somehow that makes me feel like a past tense person, I feel old and past my use-by-date, no longer the person who used to be able to post passionately about a game because she played it and knew it. I feel like a has-been.
I will still visit the board from work, but sadly, I don't think I'll ever be able to be the old fiery Shae that you guys know, lol. In order to be able to do that, I think I have to be able to play a LOT more HoMM4 and spend an hour or two here a day like I used to. Like I said though, my life has moved on, and I have someone else in my life who needs my attention. I'm still a HoMM girl, I always will be and I hope that I'll still be able to make a positive influence at HC in a big way.
I was hoping that people would carry the board on. I was hoping that after I logged on here after a nine month absence, that there would be lots of positive discussion and growth and QP's being handed out. What I've seen though, is a huge division between players and posters and although the number of posters has doubled since I left, the number of good thought-provoking posts has dwindled.
*sigh*
Maybe I will have to find that two hours a day...
*smile*
Shae_Trielle
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DonGio
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posted September 30, 2002 09:08 AM |
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In fact, I did. After playing H3 and H4 I just downloaded (oops, don't take me away.... it's just and old game....) H2 to play it for fun. You know, just for the memories of the good ole days. So I run this game with a smile but then I see the graphics and whoa! It looks better than H3 and 4 put together! So the resolution is not so great, and everything is not 3D but who cares? Instead of focusing on the graphics of the game, you see that the artists actually created art! I mean, that game just looks good. You can see that the artists didn't care about how many polygons they had and how many cool looking light sources they use, but instead focus on things such as composition, design, colour, beauty etc.
Then we get to music, and there I think I have many people to agree with me. The opera of Heroes 2 is just it! Once again, instead of creating fancy effects and cool overlaping, they have actual music that I would have bought and listened to just by itself. The music is used perfectly to create mood and add power to the game.
Now for gameplay and creatures. Although the game is not as advanced, it's still just as fun to play. You still have all of those adventure objects and creature dwellings, the battles are still pure strategy and to win the game you need just as much tactical thinking skills as in H3 and H4. So there aren't as many creatures as in the other games, but those creatures they have are what the Heroes series is all about. They are mythical animals that fit in the town's philosophy.
OK: This guy is like a jewish version of me! (no offense)
We have exactly the same thoughts when it comes to the HOMM series. I think I have made posts earlier that are almost word for word the same as your's.
Shae: Good to see you alive and kicking. It's also good to hear that you enjoyed your stay in Europe (which, to some Americans, Asians and Africans surprise, is more than one country!!). It would be nice, however, if you'd take the time to drop by every now and then and verbally kick the crap out of some of the spammers that really do their utmost to decrease the quality and atmosphere of the board.
Leave (or return) well
DonGio
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Romana
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Thx :D
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posted September 30, 2002 11:39 AM |
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Edited By: Romana on 30 Sep 2002
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*ahhhh..feeling right at home*
Wyvern, Malkia, Shae, Don gio..lol..is this like old times or what?? uhmm..not that I was there ..I mean..I aint "that" old 
I was prolly busy watching sesame-street back then.
@Wyvern: The tavern will always welcome you..I mean take an example from Andi..everyone uhmm.almost..uhmm...
Anyways take an example from him 
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Qu_Purple
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posted October 01, 2002 03:41 PM |
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At last!!
Hey Shae....Woohoo!! Good to see you back girly . Well Im on my way south in the next couple of days and since I saw you on here and you dont reply to the old email addys I thought maybe this would get a message to you. My email is QuPurple@tomkins.com.au and Ill be in Melbourne for about 10 days from Thursday so if you would like to meet up for that coffee then just email me and we can organise something.
Hope to hear from you soon...your bud Qu .
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Sir_Stiven
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posted October 01, 2002 05:04 PM |
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Why people leave?
hmmmm personally i dont really think that people does "leave" this place. Many members takes a break from it i guess and some doesnt visit it as frequently. I guess im starting to fall in that 2nd category now. Partly because i have many other things to prior now...(mostly school and paaarty ) and partly because of the fact that i just dont enjoy it as much anymore.
TOH section is more and more about heroes4...library is starting to be filled with that Heroes IV crap too. And with respect to most of tavern members, the number of quality threads in my opinion has dropped bad. I guess what this place needs right now is more creativity along the posters...kinda hard to have missed that people that atleast to me have lots of creativity like OT and cat isnt posting much now.
Myself i think the reason for this is QP:s. I reckon that we have many members out there who might as well kill just to get one of those red stars. So how does that affect the quality bad then you might think, shouldnt that improve the quality of this place instead if everyone is doing their best? No, not always. Because what happens in alot of cases is that someone gets a QP for a new good idea they have made which off course is a good thing, but then QP "wanna gets" see´s this and tries something similiar on their own. Like "old game + minor modifications" and then we have those all over the place. Which means the really good threads get stuck way back at the pages and we have bad copies and n00b threads at first page instead.
The ironic part in all of this is that people that came with these new ideas and have gotten their well deserved QP:s for it like OldTimer or Cat didnt post to get QP´s in first place. Maybe thats something worth thinking about...
What i think this place needs is more threads where you can work on and express your creativity and not use one word and raise post count.
And to spare some of you the trouble...i can see those "why aint you doing something about the quality here yourself then instead of just whine about it" posts ahead of me already lol...well to save you the time of doing so, just read my post again, maybe i have taken some responsibility with this post in some way...
who knows?
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pandora
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The Chosen One
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posted October 01, 2002 05:08 PM |
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I'll start by saying that i never knew Peole, perhaps that's a void in my life that can never be filled...
Reading this thread has made me feel a bit sad for never getting to know some of the people you talk about, sounds like i missed some good things around here
But its also kind of accented something i've been noticing here as well.. i see complaints about the 'degeneration' of this forum - i see people lamenting those that have left the board... but i also see new people coming here, making thoughtful posts, trying to become a part of the community - and i see those people pretty much ignored in many cases.
How can this community grow if newcomers are branded 'n00bs' and their views are considered not worth reading? I really hope no one takes any offense to this, as i don't mean to come off that way - but i have found that some members are very standoffish to new posters. After a while of posting with little or no response, people will feel unwelcome and they will leave...
As much as some of you have loved and will miss some of those who have left, rather than look at it as the end of the community - maybe you could look to forming new friendships with those that are just arriving, and maybe then this community can get back to the times you all miss so much
PS - Hiya Smiley, nice to see you're alive and well
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The_Gootch
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Supreme Hero
Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
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posted October 01, 2002 05:36 PM |
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Shae, the quality of the posts haven't declined. Just look for mine.
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rychenroller
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posted October 01, 2002 05:45 PM |
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I think that the frequency of peoples posts still reflects the time they spend actually playing heroes. I know a lot of people come here to chat with heroes aside, but most of the time, I do my posting when I am actually playing a game. Lately i have not been playing somuch, so the posts stop coming. But HC will always change, and that isnt a bad thing. Just think of the people who dont come here anymore that you didnt like anyway You win some, and you lose some.
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privatehudson
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posted October 01, 2002 06:05 PM |
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Hmmmmmm where to start
Well I wasn't here in the heyday of HC when things were all rosy and nice so I can't comment on that period. I do though no something of what it is like to be a recent Newbie here.
I geuss in terms of quality, you just have to look hard these days. the posts on OBL and Iraq being an example, there have been many things raised there recently. One thing I have noticed though is when someone raises a thought provoking thread, it is usually laughed at and often mocked, but rarely taken seriously. if this becomes the general atmosphere then they won't be posted at all will they?
The one thing I have noticed though is there at times seems to be a number of divisions in the community. People usually either post in the tavern or in the Tournament and it is rare that people do a lot of both. Also there is something of a division between the people here who do like H4 and those who don't. It's like there's some sort of unwritten rule here that one group are solely "tossers" and another are solely "gamers", like you cannot be both.
Personally I care little for discussing solely H4 in the future, as I think the board should be for both H3 and H4 or hell even the other games if need be. The community should be a place to discuss whatever you have in common and since that includes those games, then they should remain. Let's face it though, sometime soon 3do will stop producing Heroes of might and magic games and we will all move on from the series in particular. If HC is to survive long term it can only be in the form of basing it on our similar ideals and interests in all matters and not pinning all our hopes on heroes games.
Stiven nice thoughts there and by and large I agree that too many people obsess with QP's when the issue should always be improving the community and offering your thoughts.
But pan's right, if we want the new people to make the board as good as you all claim it was then surely those of you who are left from them days should show an example of these types of things to the new members. It would also help as she says if people stopped flaming new members or ignoring them for their ideas and tried encouragement once in a while. I will tell you honestly I was thinking of leaving a while back when I was dealt with a bit stand offish (nice term pan), but one member IM'd me and persuaded me to stay. Oh and no I won't mention whom because I'm sure a few of you will kill them for keeping me here
People move on, but those who remain must teach the next generation of members what the forum is about and how to improve it. Unless this happens it will decline. It's not just the job of the mods, we all have the job of making HC good and unless we bother to do that...... well why do we bother at all?
Just my thoughts anyway!
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Sir_Stiven
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posted October 01, 2002 06:30 PM |
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just some short comments:
I cant tell how many times that n00b issue has been up, but it sure has been many times and personally i think ive said all mine on that matter. Unfortunately if you are to look for it it has problably been locked and is way back the pages because thats what the mods do when things heaten up. Just for those of you that wasnt around then: My posts back then wasnt just about slamming the n00bs that gets here, i also mentioned many ways to improve this. Like for example getting n00bs to read FAQ before doing other stuff like starting 10 threads, because thats one big reason why the n00bs feels unwelcomed here.
What they do is that they for example starts making threads about stuff thats already been talked about. And then people toss them or just ignore them. If instead the new members got to read the FAQ and was too get in the already existing topics smooth and easy i doubt there would be any problems about this in first place. Because to me it isnt about if you are new here or you been here for 10 years, its about what you post about. If you have started a topic thats been talked about several times then i will call you a n00b...no matter if you have 0 stars or 5 or how many QP:s you got. Because to me it doesnt matter, i dont judge people on their QP:s or yellow stars. I value the other posters depending on their quality of their posts because in my eyes the whole QP system is a joke anyway. Why i think so i wont mention here and now, everything has its time and place and i dont think this is it now. But seeing members here like Dargon and Lews having less stars than certain other members which i wont mention is just hilarious in a way i guess lol.
Anyways, if you find the n00b debate feel free to post its link here. Im sure other members would be interesting in reading it again aswell.
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andiangelsla...
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posted October 01, 2002 06:46 PM |
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i got a suggestion: lets get rid of those QPs, they useless tossing anyway (and i dont only say that coz i got none ).
ban idiots like dear morons much faster as it happened in the past, the longer you let em stay the more trouble, just ask romana...
than, really crappy threads like "only weird people read this im serious" - delete em when you see em mods, for me such stuff is a reason to close the community window coz its just boring crap...
in general delete threads without something in them, like " hi im new here, blablabla".
coz, when you clean that place up, you get more quality posters back that leave coz they get pissed by all the stupid threads and dont make quality posts themselves...
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Lord_Woock
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Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted October 01, 2002 09:38 PM |
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What I really wonder though, is now that HoMM4 has been released and the reception is a mixed one, do people who enjoy HoMM3 become invalid members of the HC?Quote:
Shae, look around! There are plenty people who say HoMM3 is way better than H4. And H3 players are basically the majority on HC. Did I become an invalid member when I first claimed that I like H2 and 1 better than 3? No!
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I don't play HoMM4, but I did play HoMM3. Somehow that makes me feel like a past tense person, I feel old and past my use-by-date
What am I supposed o say? I am very old for my age. Just look at me! I'm always the outsider, playing mostly 5-years-or-older games on a Duron 1,2 GHZ (I like classics), listening to Queen and Ink Spots while wearing huge jeans (just because they're quite comfortable)? Not only I'm a past-tense person (while you just think you're one), but I can't tell anything true about me without everyone below the age of 25 laughing at me! And all this at the age of 13!!! So don't crying about being past your use-by-date.
Even Romana has more life than I do! (No offense, it's just that you claim you have no life)
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted October 02, 2002 07:32 AM |
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Well life & the world changes are what makes people come & go but are they really gone or are they just here anomonous watching over you ?
I mean like in real life you go through a change where you have to leave where you once were it's the same thang here but sometimes it's the friction & I know I caused alot of people to leave I wont deny it & there are always reason for another persons actions if it's fair or not.
Always good to see a familiar face after so long like when some of the WIlliamsons came back that was great.
I guess it's not the same anymore then how it used to be.
Used to be alot of fun & there are some really talented people who post interesting thangs but can we relate or find it interesting yourselves?
I think most you fail to mention some of the great posters but fail to understand how talented they really are because of the person they are like Bjorn for example & Hydra is unrated most of the time?
What people want to see more is hot females & posting all sorts of seductive thangs.
Theres nothing wrong with it but like Stiven says everyone likes the stars lol.
I for one can care less & say what I feel & what I think should be said I am not afraid to speak up.
I wonder how many really do act like how they really are in RL.
I even wonder how everyone even ANdi if they are the same as they are online or mayhaps they are nicer or meaner who knows?
Point is people come & go just like a change in a real life it's same thang it happens to everyone.
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