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Lich_King
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posted April 21, 2003 03:43 PM |
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The 4 Conflux creatures with one little nasty spell can kick all Armys !!!
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Sir_Stiven
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Legendary Hero
banned
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posted April 21, 2003 04:01 PM |
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correction: conflux isnt a town - its a toss.
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gravity
Hired Hero
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posted April 21, 2003 04:07 PM |
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no the worst creatures of all are the conflux creatures.........the are all lame all
Hey, Phoenixes are cool, if rather overpowered. Magic Elementals and Storm Elementals are good too, and Sprites and Ice Elementals are ok. Only Energy and Magma Elementals are really bad.
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Lich_King
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Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2003 04:11 PM |
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No, they are not, they are immne to Armageddon !THat is the main reason, why Conflux is a "toss" (As SS said...)
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gravity
Hired Hero
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posted April 21, 2003 06:03 PM |
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No, they are not, they are immne to Armageddon !THat is the main reason, why Conflux is a "toss" (As SS said...)
I thought the main reason was 4 Phoenixes per week  .
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streetfire
Hired Hero
slang junky
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posted April 22, 2003 12:22 AM |
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4 pheonexs isnt bad i guess, but combined with the rest of the conflux crap, any other town can kill them magma elementals have less damage than a ogre, and they gost 200 gold less. thr slow to faster than ogres, but still really slow
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it depends on whether u really wanna toss a salad
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Damacon_Ace
Famous Hero
Also known as Nobris Agni
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posted April 22, 2003 03:19 AM |
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The conflux is not a town filled with crap. Sure the magma and energy elementals are weak but hey, magic elementals are deadly and feared by many, storm and ice elementals are awesome shooters for their level (although storm elementals are lightning prone), and double phoenix growth is all but the cherry on top of the power pie.
Sprites make good beginning units and elementalists are one of the best heroes. Think again before you say that conflux is a weak town because it isn't.
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grunancross
Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
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posted April 22, 2003 06:38 AM |
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No NO think that the Conflux is a worthless town...
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gravity
Hired Hero
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posted April 22, 2003 08:51 AM |
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No NO think that the Conflux is a worthless town...
Hey, if you think that I'll be happy to play you as Conflux .
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grunancross
Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
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posted April 22, 2003 09:01 AM |
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I think u'd be crazy to do that but it ll be fun lol
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Warlock
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 22, 2003 09:39 AM |
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The conflux is not a town filled with crap. Sure the magma and energy elementals are weak but hey, magic elementals are deadly and feared by many, storm and ice elementals are awesome shooters for their level (although storm elementals are lightning prone), and double phoenix growth is all but the cherry on top of the power pie.
Sprites make good beginning units and elementalists are one of the best heroes. Think again before you say that conflux is a weak town because it isn't.
Well, If You call ice elemental an awesome shooter, than I'm worried about your skills. The truth is that storm elemental is the best unit among seckond unit creatures, but ice is so poor, so slow, and has the smallest damage. Try fighting against rampart or dungeons, it's very funny, very funny.
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gravity
Hired Hero
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posted April 22, 2003 02:53 PM |
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Well, If You call ice elemental an awesome shooter, than I'm worried about your skills. The truth is that storm elemental is the best unit among seckond unit creatures, but ice is so poor, so slow, and has the smallest damage. Try fighting against rampart or dungeons, it's very funny, very funny.
Ice elementals are quite a decent 3rd level unit, just overpriced. Their average damage is higher than Griffins or Cerberi.
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Damacon_Ace
Famous Hero
Also known as Nobris Agni
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posted April 23, 2003 06:38 AM |
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Ice elementals are quite a decent 3rd level unit, just overpriced. Their average damage is higher than Griffins or Cerberi.
And they have a lot of HP - only the golems have more HP than Ice Elementals - 30 is very high for a Level 3. Throw in Cold immunity and ranged firepower (helped by bless) and you have one of the best level 3's out there. Only the Grand Elves have higher damage than IE's.
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Evil_Warrior
Famous Hero
Duke of Demon
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posted January 19, 2006 03:49 PM |
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Castle - Monk
Inferno - Imp
Necropolis - Wight
Stronghold - Orc
Rampart - Pegasus
Dungeon - Manticore
Conflux - Pixie
Tower - Gremlin
Fortress - Lizardman
Neutral - Of Course Peasant
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System_Error
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 09, 2006 11:48 PM |
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I'll leave out UNupgraded units.
- Castle: hard to say, every unit is more or less efective maybe Halberdiers
- Rampart: Battle Dwarfs, they're not useless, it's just least efficient, although they could soak some damage early in the game
- Tower: Iron Golems - very tough but slow
- Inferno: Magogs - hitting your own army is $hit
- Necropolis: Zombies - most of the time I buy them unupgraded and turn them into skellies
- Dungeon: Infernal Troglodytes
- Stronghold: Hobgoblins - fast but fragile
- Fortress: Gnoll Marauders or Lizzard Warriors, can't make up my mind
- Conflux: everything except Phoenixes, which are saved by their population growth
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Russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
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posted February 10, 2006 03:49 PM |
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For me, the weakest units by town are:
Castle - Pikes(they aren't bad, but they are level 1 and they are reeeeally slow which makes them kind of useless. I usually waste them as a fodder.) WTF would anyone name monks? As weak as they are, they are a needed second shooter for the castle.
Tower - gargs They are nothing but fodder. I can't belive someone named gremlins (the only level 1 shooter, very cheap and comes in MASSIVE numbers) and golems (35 hp and 75% magic immunity!!! By far the toughest level 3, very useful in final fight. The speed is not an issue since the enemy will have to come to them.)
Rampart - Dwarves They are quite useless.
Necro - Zombies Even though I always have them built, I never hire them. Who the f**k named wraiths???? If you do build them, load them on your scouts and they'll destroy any other scout and drain the spell points from the enemy's main if they fight him.
Stronghold - Orcs The only shooter in the game that I don't like. They have it all. Low damage, melee penalty, low speed. I can't think of anythnig good to say about them.
Fortress - basilisks Very weak level 4. Wyverns are weak too, but it is easy to get a LOT of those.
Inferno - imps Someone named magogs!!!!???? They own the map. And if you use them in the final fight, you are a noob.
Dungeon - manticores Very weak level 6, but unlike wyverns, you can't really get a lot of them.
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fortress_fan
Disgraceful
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posted February 11, 2006 06:01 PM |
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I think the folowing are weakest: (Upgraded versions)
Castle - Zealots
Russ, why did you call pikemen weak!? Of course they are no march for Red dragons, but thats of course because they are a level 1 unit! And they are the best Level 1 unit to.
Zealots are weak, they are a realy bad unit. Not more to say aboat that, I think everyone know that Zealots are among the weakset Level 5 units.
Rampart - Silver Pegasi
Cannonfooder, they have often very little support when they fly right into the enemy lines, and you can expect great casualites with them frome the beginig.
Tower - Obdisian garygoles
To be a towns only flyer at such a low level...
Inferno - Horned Demons
I guees the new horned demon in Heroes V will be stronger, thisone is the weakest level 3 units on level 4! Very bad! Their unupgraded version can be sumoned by pitlords, but that is just to waste a turn. I simply hate them...
Necropolis - Warithes
Warithes are just good for standing back and tacke enemy mana. And that is patetic, because aboat half of the enemy heroes will shuerly be migth heroes! Zombies are slow, yes, but they can at least fight!
Dungeon - Harpy hags
Anoying, but when you stay in front of them they are easy to kill. Someone mentoired scorpies here. I think scorpies are good, manticores have no special ability, but do you need that when they have such epic statistics!?
Stronghold - Hobgoblins
Like familliars, they are your enemys fauvorite target. Hobgoblins are stronger and cheaper than familiars, whit means that more hobgoblins will live after a battle than familiars would.
Fortress - Dragon flies
This was hard. Fortress are after all, the strongest town in the game. (even if Conflux come close) Dragon flies are exelent units who is superb support units for wyvens. (somethimes they win the battle before the rest of the army is there) Dragon flies and Wyvens often have given the player controll over at least a quarter of the map in week 4. However, image a situation when their is no wyvens. In such a fight, dragon flies cuod only sitt back and guard the lizar warriors untill the middle of the battle when the fortress army is in hand to hand fight.
Conflux - Energy elementals
I have allways liked their animations, but that dosent help them in combat. They are the only weak Conflux unit. (exept for sprites who you get in hordes) They can however bring some destruction to the enemy espesiality if you uses Ignissa or Fiur...
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FireSpirit
Famous Hero
with warm hands
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posted February 11, 2006 07:47 PM |
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Warithes are just good for standing back and tacke enemy mana.
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...Their unupgraded version can be sumoned by pitlords, but that is just to waste a turn...
You have a long way ahead of you, young padawan...
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
gets back
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posted February 12, 2006 12:00 AM |
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"Their unupgraded version can be sumoned by pitlords, but that is just to waste a turn. I simply hate them..."
Well the summoned deamons STAY after the fight. Maybe you didn't know that.
Russ, basilisk is physically one of the strongest level 4's and it's speed and special are not bad either.
I tend not to use them though 
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System_Error
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 12, 2006 12:03 AM |
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Long post, don't be scared.
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I think the folowing are weakest: (Upgraded versions)
Castle - Zealots
Russ, why did you call pikemen weak!? Of course they are no march for Red dragons, but thats of course because they are a level 1 unit! And they are the best Level 1 unit to.
Zealots are weak, they are a realy bad unit. Not more to say aboat that, I think everyone know that Zealots are among the weakset Level 5 units.
Weakest? I guess you mean worst. These are two different things! Everybody knows the WEAKEST unit is always the lvl1. Anyway.
How in the world can you consider a pretty fast shooter worse than a lvl1 SLOW WALKER. This is insane.Especially if it has no melee penalty and even thoug it is low on hit points.
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Rampart - Silver Pegasi
Cannonfooder, they have often very little support when they fly right into the enemy lines, and you can expect great casualites with them frome the beginig.
Silver Pegasi are weak, yes. And their damage ain't great but at early stages their magic damper could prove useful. After all a few spell points could mean ONE more spell and the spell COULD decide the game. Later on magic damper is almost useless. Nonetheless, Silver Pegasi come in large numbers, they're dirt cheap and they're fast.
I've never played online and I probably never will, I'm kind of a noob, but when I play with Rampart (my second favourite race) very often I leave all my dwarfs and Dendroids behind so they don't slow me down and I can use my Cenataur Captains, Grand Elves, Silver Pegasi and, if I have any, Unicorns to beat wandering creatures. With a little more tactitc and patience, one might not need dwarfs or dendroids.
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Tower - Obdisian garygoles
To be a towns only flyer at such a low level...
You're kinda right but who said you have to send them directly into battle. It's hard to decide whether the Gargoyles or Golems are the worst since both are equally usless (can't be resurrected) and usefull (vs vampires for example, and being immune to some spells). Gargoyles are fast and have decent endurance. Golems are VERY tough but are very slow. So I guess it depends or one's playstyle or one's oponent.
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Inferno - Horned Demons
I guees the new horned demon in Heroes V will be stronger, thisone is the weakest level 3 units on level 4! Very bad! Their unupgraded version can be sumoned by pitlords, but that is just to waste a turn. I simply hate them...
Demons might not be a perfect unit but they are pretty balanced, come in bigger numbers and are cheap. Don't coun't them out so easily.
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Necropolis - Warithes
Warithes are just good for standing back and tacke enemy mana. And that is patetic, because aboat half of the enemy heroes will shuerly be migth heroes! Zombies are slow, yes, but they can at least fight!
Early in the game they COULD prove usefull if you put a few in each slot. That way you can drain quite some mana. Besides their regeneration could also be usefull also early in the game when killing wandering creatures which can't do enough damage to kill a Wight/Wraith in a single strike. That is, if one has Tomb of Souls building already built. If I don't have it built, I don't bother. Vampire Lords, Power Liches and Dread Knights are WAY more important than to go shmuckin' around with Wraiths.
Zombies are slow (I hate slow units), have low damage and defense. Their only good side is their Hit points but I don't think it's worht it. Walking Dead -> Skeleton Transformer. SKELLIEES! SKELLIEES + HASTE = Muahahah!
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Dungeon - Harpy hags
Anoying, but when you stay in front of them they are easy to kill. Someone mentoired scorpies here. I think scorpies are good, manticores have no special ability, but do you need that when they have such epic statistics!?
SAY WHAT?!?!? Were you stoned? True, high damage amplitude but they're fast, the enemy doesn't retaliate and they return to their starting position. Great when defending against a siege. Bless does wonders. How can you call this fantstic unit WEAK/WORST?! This is the firs t unit I upgrade AS SOON AS POSSIBLE so I can kill wandering stacks easier.
Manticores and epic statisics? Irony?!? Are you BLIND? Have you seen the Dread Knigth's stats? Or the Naga Queen's? Manticores/Scorpcores are the WORST lvl6 unit. Period. If they didn't have the Paralyze ability, I wouldn't bother buying them UNLESS I REALLY need every troop I can get.
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Stronghold - Hobgoblins
Like familliars, they are your enemys fauvorite target. Hobgoblins are stronger and cheaper than familiars, whit means that more hobgoblins will live after a battle than familiars would.
Actually, now that I think it over, orcs are pretty useless, so it could be a competition between Hobgoblins and Orc Chieftains.
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Fortress - Dragon flies
This was hard. Fortress are after all, the strongest town in the game. (even if Conflux come close) Dragon flies are exelent units who is superb support units for wyvens. (somethimes they win the battle before the rest of the army is there) Dragon flies and Wyvens often have given the player controll over at least a quarter of the map in week 4. However, image a situation when their is no wyvens. In such a fight, dragon flies cuod only sitt back and guard the lizar warriors untill the middle of the battle when the fortress army is in hand to hand fight.
Do you always charge your fastest units immediately? No wonder you dislike them so much!! The can't handle a whole army by themselves. And Gnolls do a better job at guarding the Lizzard warriors. Dragon flies are very usefull for their speed, weakness and dispell. Especially considering they dispell benefical spells ONLY and leave the debuffs. Even with Tazar, rushing your wyverns and dragon flies into the enemy army is a pretty damn stupid idea. If Tactics is available, OK, since the powerful backub by Basilisks, Hydras and Mighty "Where are my 7th lvl creatures" Gorgons would soon be there. But crossmap, no way (unless mass haste).
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Conflux - Energy elementals
I have allways liked their animations, but that dosent help them in combat. They are the only weak Conflux unit. (exept for sprites who you get in hordes) They can however bring some destruction to the enemy espesiality if you uses Ignissa or Fiur...
Sprites can be a pain in the enemy's ass but also pain in your ass if you aren't careful. They're so fagile.
Storm elementals should have bless, other wise they're a bit useless. Same goes for Ice Elementals. Magma Elementals. And you called Energy Elementals weak. Magma Ele's are slow and weak. Worse than fast and weak. Especially when Fire/Energy elementals are immune to the whole Fire school, and not just a spell or two. Phoenixes are saved by their numbers and speed. Other wise they're CRAP. You can only resurrect lvl1 and lvl7. Conflux, in general, is crap. Their only units which can stand some beating are their shooters, which is kinda silly.
I still think you might have been joking. Were you? 'Cos it wasn't funny at all.
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