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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: How Do you Beat A Fortress
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grunancross
grunancross


Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
posted April 18, 2003 08:04 AM

yeh thas crazy  wog is bad A$$ i wish i could get it
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Apophis
Apophis


Known Hero
Creeping Death
posted April 18, 2003 08:08 AM

Yeah it has lots of interesting things, but it's kinda strange. I think SOD is better.
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grunancross
grunancross


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King of the Underdark
posted April 18, 2003 08:15 AM

yeah it is.....but the bigest thing is ff x-2 i mean what the hell is square thinking? there game sux a$$ and now a second...
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WaY2HeLL
WaY2HeLL


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Grandmaster Wizard of HOMM3.5
posted April 20, 2003 03:45 PM

in the town nobody with forttress can beat you. use tower because of 3 shooters, necro because of skells,liches with smart damage and of course ghost dragons (ageing).
or castle (2 shooters, 2 flyers)

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Apophis
Apophis


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Creeping Death
posted April 20, 2003 08:43 PM
Edited By: Apophis on 20 Apr 2003

Tower - you got to be kidding me, haste Fortress's troops and the battle won't last more than 3 rounds.

Castle - it's a very balanced town but their power is the Archangels and the Mighty Gorgons can take care of them. Once the AA are down the other Castle creatures won't last too long. The shooters will do some good damage till the Dragon Flies and the Wyverns will reach them, then...no more shooters.

Necropolis - well...that's a bad ass because the death stare doesn't work on the undead creatures, but the Mighty Gorgons are very strong without the death stare too and those Ghost Dragons are weak weak weak. The only serious problem are the skeletons but the Hydras will handle them...or not.

So dude there's no way to defeat Fortress.

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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted April 20, 2003 09:31 PM

loool n00bisis

there are many many ways to kill a fortress, ive mentioned one earlier in this thread.

fortress is a strong town but like every other castles they have their disadvantages too.

start playing online and you might find some of em out

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Apophis
Apophis


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Creeping Death
posted April 20, 2003 09:58 PM

Yes it does have disadvantages but still it cannot be defeated. You can't defeat the game. Damn it, hmmmm....if you can't understand now you will never understand.
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Aculias
Aculias


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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted April 21, 2003 02:29 AM

Apophis you underestimate Tower even though it's not everyones fav castle, well except for the noobs ;0.

For one if you got say an armourer specialist as main or Offense, archery etc, Tower can be one of the toughest castles to beat.
Basically you want to beat Tower ASAP because giving Tower enough time to build the Titans can be devastating to win.
Also rushing Tower is not always the best offense in that kind of situation.
Iron Golems may be slow but can give you a run for your money if you come in close.
Naga Queens are blessed so they got i think 30 Damage rate & can put a hurt on ya.
You cant blind Titans & with thier no Melee penalty they can be tough.

Now if they dont have some kind of knight & have a wizard like Deemer,Solmyr or any kind, you got to rush them or if you dont have tactics or haste try to spread out if you can or wait because you know they will have some bad arse speel to throw at ya.
Thats why it's important to try to get exp air or earth especially going against some kind of wizard main hero.
So you can rush them or slow them if you got tactics etc.

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grunancross
grunancross


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King of the Underdark
posted April 21, 2003 06:55 AM

yea so i guess its one of the stronger of the castles cause of its def...
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notmytohhandle
notmytohhandle


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posted April 22, 2003 05:33 AM

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lol ive tossed down a full week 3 fortress army losing barely nothing with rampart.

Was a really funny game too, first i stole fire book just in front of fortress player hero (was an allied game) then i learned fire magic at a hut next to my allies main town.

Seeing berserked mighty Mooo´s attack chaos hydras who retaliates and kill some basilisks too can be such a pretty sight. Especially when mighty moooo power (death stare) kicks in


hehe i remember this game

i took down 20+ of sparos angels week 4 lol, was a fun game tho.

/Archie

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Kuma
Kuma


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u can type so much text in her
posted April 23, 2003 12:40 PM

good to c u posting here again Archie, we need some serious players here.

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zilonite
zilonite


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posted April 27, 2003 12:08 AM

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good to c u posting here again Archie, we need some serious players here.


and not here, but in zone also. So, even i know u only from threads, i can say - Archie, come back...
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zilonite
zilonite


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posted April 27, 2003 12:24 AM

and just my two cents about Fortress rises and falls...

Dudes, in my heart i'm a swamp elephant... I love to play with those cute wetties, Fortress is the most fun to play out of all towns.

But if there is a two expert players game, where one has fortress and second, lets say rampart or castle... ummm, i would bet on last one.
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zordrac
zordrac


Adventuring Hero
posted April 29, 2003 12:26 AM

Fortress likes strength in numbers. Once they have a good number of Dragon flies, any spells that you cast on yourself can be dispelled. Once they have many Mighty Gorgons, your level 7s will be killed instantly. And so forth.

One good way to combat this is to whittle them down. It can be tough once they have a big army, especially if they are in the castle, but you can manage it. You might want to send in different heroes one at a time. They might win overall several times in a row, but you can whittle them down.

The big disadvantage of Fortress is that they lose troops so easily. So many of their troops have very high attack (and defense) but low hps. So a few big spells can really hurt them.

For example, if you send in 1 hero with 1 silver pegasis, you can blast away heaps with an Implosion spell. Do it a few times. You lose nothing (other than having to rehire them) and they lose a lot.

Once they are in more manageable numbers, the battle is fairly easy.

They are also very slow. Another big disadvantage.
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Aculias
Aculias


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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted April 29, 2003 12:32 AM

Here I will throw a cherry in the air & you catch it in your mouth.
Here I know you can do it since you have so much experience in it .
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soccerfeva
soccerfeva


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posted July 12, 2003 05:42 PM

I agree with u apolis.fortress is strong if you know how to use it..but never defeated?I'm not sure about that.

Anywhere,with Fortress,I think it's best to take expert catupult.I believe that is absoulutely necessary.Because of the fact that if you were to attack a castle,you'll need that.You will need the walls to break before you can storm in there with your mighty gs and chaos hydras.

If the walls don break,fortress will lose.

For one Haste doesn't work if the walls don break,and teleport doesn't work when there is a wall.

Fortress defence's in the castle is unbreakable,really +2 attack and defence,what more can you ask for?Those tought walls and archers just fire away..game over.
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LichKing
LichKing


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posted July 12, 2003 07:38 PM

Yep

Quote:

For one Haste doesn't work if the walls don break,and teleport doesn't work when there is a wall.




It's a pity they didn't make a magic school that would let you teleport critters over walls at say.......expert level.

What a waste of a spell
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grendal
grendal


Adventuring Hero
posted July 12, 2003 09:01 PM

This is kinda funny and a noobie mistake.  I played online for a month before i figured that out.  I tried teleport with basic water and it wouldnt go over the walls.
So i assumed teleport didnt work in castle sieges. I was wrong
Same with cloning the archies.  Its amazing what u can learn online if u just read and are willing to listen to veterans.

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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


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Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted July 13, 2003 12:39 AM

...oh this little stories let me remember an old clan fight i had with a russian player on SD3.

Man this player was fast and tough. He took both Utopias and the garnissons and and and.... i built 2 Fortress as a clan buddy told me that there would be enough resources around...blah dammed was i slow ...and the player kept on telling me how weak i am, what a crappy player i am...all the time during my turns and during all the weeks.

He broke thru my garrison, heading to my town and now i could see why he was so fast: He sacrificed all his troups in the fights except his 7 Black Dragons ...his stats were unbelieveable..3 times higher then mine.

..geez...so i took all my troups to my main and attacked him in MY OWN TOWN. Of course he had expert artillery and of course he destroyed MY CATAPULT my chaos a tent and all gnolls with a single chain. He laughed about me and kept on telling me what a slow idiot i am and i should be a footmen instead of a baron.

Well..i waited and let him tell his story..and went to the refrigerator to get a nice cool beer..opened it slowly while my comp kept on peeping cause of all the messages he made..so i sad down...

..expert water...expert teleport on my mighty gorgons of 2 towns.... they jumped over the wall like little light dragonflies...the messages stopped immediately ...a little cow-attack and 6 of 7 Blackies were gone...

...1 Blackie left ...just enough to make a little rest ..to give him the chance to make a little comment about how bad i play ...it took some secs...and...drop...

..well that beer tasted so cool...

Xarfax1
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted July 13, 2003 12:58 AM

Okay, I'm back to playing Fortress now .
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