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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Top Five Favorite Movies Ever
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Azagal
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posted November 12, 2008 01:08 PM

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@Azagal: What's wrong with Pitch Black?

Everything? Bad story, ridicolous acting, plot was predictable from lightyears away... and yeah pretty much everything. And more.
But if you liked it it can't be that bad. Eventhough I'd probably rather go on a one week starvation diet that do that to me again oO. Jesus christ.... but seriously no offense to your taste^^. That's just me.
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posted November 12, 2008 01:36 PM

Pitch Black was awesome, in its own way
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posted November 12, 2008 01:38 PM

Bad story? What's bad about it? Actually it's a lot more interesting with the "bad guy" turning into some kind of "good guy" (ok, not really), than the typical "good guy is the hero" stuff. Oh and there were also some twists, like when Riddick turned on Johns later, unlike in the typical stuff you would expect in some other 'survival' movies (where everyone is scared and screaming and helping each other)

Ridiculous acting? You could say some parts were ridiculous, like when Paris freaked out and ran away from the lights. Still, a lot of other movies have these 'ridiculous' parts, and at least Riddick is cool

Plot was predictable? Probably the main part with the eclipse coming, but then it wasn't predictable at all - like when Riddick turned on Johns (when they were 'allied' before), and when that raining started


Maybe some people don't like it much but saying what you said (that you'd rather starve) is pretty weird IMO, for a 'good' movie like that. There are 100 times worse movies out there
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DagothGares
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posted November 12, 2008 02:00 PM

pitch black:
- Okay monsters and storyline
- Okay villain (Riddick is a villain anti-hero?, believe it or not)
- No interesting characters except for Riddick and whoever played that religious character.
- Horrible love interest
- A bit original in the genre of survival (compare this to the castaway)
(- the sequel has NOTHING to do with pitch black)

overall: it's an okay movie that takes itself quite seriously and delivers it's content quite nicely (I (think only Vin Diesel would be able to play Riddick). It has an okay claustrophobic atmosphere. All characters are morons though . It's okay and a tad original, if you were to ask me.
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TheDeath
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posted November 12, 2008 02:05 PM

Please explain to me Dagoth why you think all characters are morons, since if you use that to explain these, how would you describe characters in a hollywood-slashy-gore-teen-horror with blondes screaming at every thing?
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DagothGares
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posted November 12, 2008 02:27 PM

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Please explain to me Dagoth why you think all characters are morons, since if you use that to explain these, how would you describe characters in a hollywood-slashy-gore-teen-horror with blondes screaming at every thing?
Well, first of all, the blondes in such movies generally deserve to die and I'd feel better if they act all confused and scared, since that's also nice claustrophobic atmosphere.

Now, why do I think most characters are stupid?

Let's start of with a space captain dock navigator w/e. She's a bright-eyed young strapping gal who has the world at her feet. At the end of the movie she dies... Why? 'cus she went after Riddick'... Seriously, it's something I fail to understand, even now, why she went back for him.

John is an idiot and generally unlikeable, but I'll clarify that, off course. He wants to kill a little girl... I think that smothering a puppy is the only that is remotely near to that act in making yourself unpopular. Also, he's a junky and a bounty hunter...

Zeke and Ashazza where colouring, which is nice, but they weren't really memorable.

Jack... is a girl, a typical tomboy, but still she is a damsel in distress (notice the times she's menaced). I just don't... like her... Fine, that's why!

I also apologise for giving that short opinion, since I do support it, but it's uncalled for and only serves as a provocation.
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Asheera
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posted November 12, 2008 02:31 PM

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Let's start of with a space captain dock navigator w/e. She's a bright-eyed young strapping gal who has the world at her feet. At the end of the movie she dies... Why? 'cus she went after Riddick'... Seriously, it's something I fail to understand, even now, why she went back for him.
Compassion? See why it's a weakness?

And she probably thought that she owed Riddick this, since he returned for the others instead of going away from there.
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posted November 12, 2008 02:35 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 14:37, 12 Nov 2008.

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Seriously, it's something I fail to understand, even now, why she went back for him.
Riddick went after her friends, so she understood he was not such a monster and probably owed it to him?

In fact I perfectly understand why she did it. She wasn't as bad as Riddick was and she already had that guilt on her when she decided at the start to kill everyone to save herself (when the crash happened), and imagine when everyone found out about it how she felt like. If she didn't come back after Riddick she would have been the same as him -- when he decided to abandon them. Therefore, she was profoundly impacted because she would be guilty of leaving him there, just as he was leaving them there, and actually he WENT back for them, so she would be even worse. How can she even dare to talk to others to go back when she wouldn't? It was a fine psychological moment in fact one of the best in the movie

And @Ash, of course it's not a weakness, it's actually a civilized thing. Asking someone else to do what you won't (Riddick did come after her friends and did not leave her when she saw her, just like she "heard him screaming") is completely barbaric. You see, it just happened the other way around: only that instead of Riddick seeing her and not taking off, she heard him -- so why should she take off?

Asking someone to do something you wouldn't do is just sick and evil.

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Zeke and Ashazza where colouring, which is nice, but they weren't really memorable.
If you make everyone memorable you end with a "super-hero" alliance or shall I put it "tons of Mary Sues"
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DagothGares
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posted November 12, 2008 02:36 PM

He's a criminal that ripped apart one of those aliens with his bare hands, he'll be fine, just wait a bit longer! Those cries are cries of joy
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posted November 12, 2008 02:38 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 14:39, 12 Nov 2008.

You see it goes deeper than that. If she had time to THINK it would go like this:

"I hear Riddick screaming. I don't want to help him." and then think of the scenario where Riddick SAW her: if he thought the same, he would have taken off ignoring her.

Would she have liked that?




So my opinion is that part was not only well made but brilliant made, in a psychological/moral level.
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DagothGares
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posted November 12, 2008 02:39 PM
Edited by DagothGares at 14:46, 12 Nov 2008.

Well, death, it sounds okay, but my opinion on humans is lesser than that... Still, it's a good opinion, but I don't buy it.

btw, I judged Zeke and Azzshara by my own memory, which I meant by not very memorable.

about that last thing:
"I would die for them, not for you."
*dies*
"Not for you..."
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posted November 12, 2008 02:42 PM

For those who get it harder, do you also remember when Riddick asked her if she would "sacrifice herself for her friends" before he went back with her?
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Asheera
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posted November 12, 2008 02:43 PM

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He's a criminal that ripped apart one of those aliens with his bare hands, he'll be fine, just wait a bit longer! Those cries are cries of joy
Come on Dagoth, the movie is more serious than that. No wonder you can't understand some things if you don't take it seriously.

I mean, of course it's easy to say for you that "some were morons", but seriously, if you were there you would probably even freak out like Paris
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posted November 12, 2008 02:48 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 14:49, 12 Nov 2008.

And yeah Dagoth you should take it more seriously

Anyway that movie was very good. It had action, some horror, a tough protagonist (like you said, it ripped an alien with bare hands, good action/toughness scene and then an awesome tough quote "Did not know who was ****ing with", Vin Diesel style ) and had some moral issues as well (like I explained above), not only at the end but also when she wanted to blast everyone off so she could escape (and later everyone found about it cause Johns didn't keep his mouth shut).

So it's really a good movie compared to others.
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william
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posted November 12, 2008 03:44 PM

Just because you two enjoyed the movie doesn't mean Dagoth has to as well. Just respect the fact that he doesn't like it even if you disagree with what he is saying about it. lol
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TheDeath
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posted November 12, 2008 04:18 PM

Dude WTF do you even know what discussion means? I said that Pitch Black was a good movie, and gave my reasons, I see no problem with that. If someone says that is sucks and he wants a discussion he should explain why, and he did, which I also explained further that in fact, that part was good and explained why, even though he might not like it (i.e not his taste). Sure it might not be his taste but you usually have reasons to dislike something, and that's how you get to a discussion
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william
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posted November 12, 2008 04:21 PM
Edited by william at 16:22, 12 Nov 2008.

I know how to have a discussion but you two keep saying stuff like "take it seriously" and all this other stuff. I'm pretty sure he has stated why he doesn't like it, does it need to be going on for pages?

Although this isn't the thread for what movies do you dislike, if it was then I would probably mention Ricky 1.

BTW: If you want to engage in yet another argument with me, do it via HCM. I thought we had stopped this crap though.
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Asheera
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posted November 12, 2008 04:37 PM

Will Chill out, this is a friendly discussion

But I know this is not the thread for criticizing movies, but I didn't even start this
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william
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posted November 12, 2008 04:38 PM
Edited by william at 16:39, 12 Nov 2008.

Thanks for that nice reply Asheera, sure, I will chill out. See the difference, TheDeath, in your reply and Asheera's?

Has anybody seen the movie, Scarface? If I had a top ten I would definitely put that on there. What brilliant acting by Al Pacino and some great quotes from it "say hello to my little friend".
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DagothGares
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posted November 12, 2008 04:39 PM
Edited by DagothGares at 16:40, 12 Nov 2008.

actually, this was the most fun discussion I had in weeks (not counting the ones I have with AIST, but that's something completely unrelated). And not criticising movies? So we're only allowed to give like our top vife five and it ends there?

You're boring, ash
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