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posted July 25, 2025 02:40 PM |
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@artu:
British food is not as good as American food (which is the pinnacle of culinary perfection and cultural fusion), but British food is still among the best.
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Beans on toast. Efficient. Fast. Delicious. High protein. Perfection. Should be eaten everywhere.
Beer. 2nd best in world perhaps.
Tea and biscuits.
Beans, pork blood sausage, eggs, fried tomato.
Marmite.
Beef wellington.
Vinegar! So good.
Fish n chips.
Spotted dick.
Beer.
There is a 1500 percent chance that aliens would like British food.
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posted July 25, 2025 03:07 PM |
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Talk about weird priorities.
Germany: openly defies NATO treaty obligations for years upon years.
US: president uses percentages wrong in a press conference that nobody under the age of 60 actually watches.
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posted July 25, 2025 10:15 PM |
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Apart from the fact that you are (wilfully and knowingly) compare apples and oranges, you are also as wrong as Trump in claiming polemically Germany would"openly defy obligations".
That's just not true because the 2% BRP thing is just an interpreationof article 3 and considered a loose guideline since 2006, not more.
In addition, I could counter this with Trump defying openly article 2:
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"The Parties will contribute toward the further development of peaceful and friendly international relations by strengthening their free institutions, by bringing about a better understanding of the principles upon which these institutions are founded, and by promoting conditions of stability and well-being. They will seek to eliminate conflict in their international economic policies and will encourage economic collaboration between any or all of them."
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posted July 25, 2025 10:19 PM |
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Blizzard said:
There is a 1500 percent chance that aliens would like British food.
Oh yes, I’m sure the Xenomorph would love to get her venom spit on some blood pie.
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posted July 25, 2025 11:28 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
That's just not true because the 2% BRP thing is just an interpreationof article 3 and considered a loose guideline since 2006, not more.
Oh. I didn't know that.
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In addition, I could counter this with Trump defying openly article 2:
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"The Parties will contribute toward the further development of peaceful and friendly international relations by strengthening their free institutions, by bringing about a better understanding of the principles upon which these institutions are founded, and by promoting conditions of stability and well-being. They will seek to eliminate conflict in their international economic policies and will encourage economic collaboration between any or all of them."
Does this mean no more pre-Trump tarrifs on American goods? Since we are all in NATO?
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posted July 25, 2025 11:32 PM |
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I meant to say black pudding. Such a euphemism.
Here, we just call it blood sausage. Cause it is.
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posted July 25, 2025 11:56 PM |
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Blizzard said:
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In addition, I could counter this with Trump defying openly article 2:
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"The Parties will contribute toward the further development of peaceful and friendly international relations by strengthening their free institutions, by bringing about a better understanding of the principles upon which these institutions are founded, and by promoting conditions of stability and well-being. They will seek to eliminate conflict in their international economic policies and will encourage economic collaboration between any or all of them."
Does this mean no more pre-Trump tarrifs on American goods? Since we are all in NATO?
The article is pretty vague, the kind of stuff you have a Supreme Court for, when we talk about the constitutions which are not as vague, but still interpretable. Who am I to tell you how to interpret Trump's behavior with regard to this article - you have to judge that for yourself.
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posted July 26, 2025 02:24 AM |
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As far as whether American or British baked beans are better, I think it depends on the context.
American cuisine is almost always more adventurous. So, that means varieties of ways to flavor baked beans, such as bourbons, mesquites, and whatever other spices you can think of. American baked beans are usually a dark or medium brownish color. They go great with smoked and barbequed pork or chicken. Trade secret: after you are done with the baked beans, rub the barbequed meat in the leftover sauce. You're welcome.
Heinz baked beans are the staple baked beans of Britain, and they come in a rich red tomato sauce. They're not as exciting, BUT I must admit they go absolutely awesomely with toast, because the tomato sauce soaks into the toast and the taste and texture are delightful. It doesn't work as well with the American baked beans that I have tried. Also, I tend to think of baked beans in a red sauce as more of a breakfast food that go good with eggs, whereas the darker blends are better for lunch or dinner.
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posted July 26, 2025 03:33 AM |
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It's the fact that if you take that position (you as in: the rest of NATO) it can end up backfiring on you, because there have been protectionist policies in place in Europe for quite awhile, i.e. the German automobile industry in Germany.
Not all types of American cars are going to sell well in Europe, because places like Rome have a lot of roads the size of a hamster, but some will and yet they don't sell well because of price hikes.
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posted July 26, 2025 10:19 AM |
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That is complete nonsense for the following reasons:
1) American (that is US produced) cars have been largely crap, with a few exceptions, like the Mustang or the Corvette. I think, the Dodge Ram is fine as well, but those are niche cars in Europe.
2) US car corps have their own brands for cars in other continents.
Simplified version: build better cars, sell more worldwide. Statistics for 2024 (no Trump) say this: New cars within the whole of the EU: 10.632.381.
VW: 11%
Toyota 7.5% a Japanese corp.
Skoda 6.2%
Renault 5.9%
BMW 5.8%
Mercedes and Peugeot 5.3%
Dacia 5.1%
Audi 4.9%
Hyundai 4.0%
Kia 3.8%
Opel and Citroen 3.1%
Ford 2.9
Fiat and Volvo 2.7%
Tesla 2.3%
Seat 2.2%
If you look only at E-Cars, Tesla has been the leading corp, beaten only by the whole of the VW corp (which includes Audi, Seat and Skoda as well).
Tesla is an American car.
Toyata is a Japanese car.
Hyundai and Kia are from Korea.
You have to build better cars in the US. I mean, a BMW or Merc or Audi ISN'T cheap in the US OR in the EU, tariffs or no tariffs.
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posted July 26, 2025 04:07 PM |
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No dude. It's largely because of the 10% price hike. That amounts to a large sum of money on a vehicle purchase.
You cant claim high confidence in cars and simultaneously have a protectionist tax. That just isnt convincing at all. SUVs wont do well in Europe for obvious reasons but competetive Ford models are getting diminished sales because of protectionism. There are models specifically designed to be small and efficient.
And you just recently cited a NATO article related to this.
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posted July 26, 2025 08:22 PM |
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Do you even have a car? It seems, you don't know what you are talking about. SUVs are all the rage in the EU.
And, again. US producers have their own European brand:
Opel has been a GM daughter until it wasn't wanted anymore and bought by the Stellantis Group.
You just put your fingers in your ears and blblblbl to not hear the truth.
Again: Toyota ALONE has a 7.5% share of the EU ne car market. Add to that Honda, Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi and Nissan, and you are at something like 15% market share. The Korean cars are at half of that. Tesla - US - has dominated the E car sector until Musk went nazi.
And again: Most US produced cars are CRAP. Exceptions are rare, but then they sell because, surprise, sueprise, they are CHEAPER than comparable European cars. Examples are the Corvette, the old Mustang (pre E) and the last generation Camaro. Older suvccessful models are the Chrysler Stratus Convertible and the PT Cruiser and the Crossfire.
As I said, German cars - Merc, Audi, BMW, Porsche, VW - are EXPENSIVE in Europe. An Audi S5 STARTS at 78.500 € in Germany. In the US, it currently starts at $62.700. A Cadillac CT5-V starts at $57.000 in the US. Add 10% - and due the the exchange rate you won't have more cost in €. However - you cannot even buy that car, since Cadillac isn't offering it in Europe.
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posted July 26, 2025 11:39 PM |
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I've only ever owned Toyotas, but SUVs in Europe are like a smaller and cuter version of what is sold here. American SUVs kind of like what you would see in Mad Max if you add a little bit of decoration.
You're not really giving me a clear answer: should you be able to use tariffs? Cause you're bringing up that part of NATO referring to Trump and I'm curious how far you are willing to take that idea, especially since Trump is only going to be around for another 3 years or so.
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posted July 27, 2025 10:21 AM |
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Tariffs are the opposite of free trade. They are obviously used as a means to make up for any kinds of "subsidies", like, with China and cars. Within the EU agricultural products are heavily subsidized.
Trump says, the tariffs are supposed to be an incentive for corps to come into the US and produce things THERE. The thing is, if they would do that, the labor costs were that much higher than in, say, China or Romania (except with illegals), so the products would still be MUCH more expensive, right? I mean, now you import cheap clothing from China, Vietnam, India and so on (where they are produced in there legal sweatshops and in part with children). If you produce it in the US with legal workers, grown-ups, clothing becomes A LOT more expensive for the consumer. In that case you would HAVE TO protect your industry by tariffs, making the children made clothing as expensive.
However - those times are past. Economy works globally. EVERY corp manufactures where it'sd cheapest and transports them where they make a profit. Economy isn't about COUNTRIES and their trade balance. At least modern capitalism isn't.
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posted July 27, 2025 04:17 PM |
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I think it is well-established that the textile industry in the US is a relic.
Texas does make better sausages than Germany by the way, with a huge amount of flavors for the palette. German sausages are the wurst.
The thing that is making Europe obsolete and 2nd rate with its food is that there is IDEOLOGY intermixed with cuisine. So, putting blueberry juice inside a wurst is some kind of heresy. That is why nowadays, USA pasta and pizza > Italy. USA sausages > Germany. USA food in general is simply superior to any European country because it doesnt have ideology holding it back, with so many inflexible people demanding that it MUST be done so and so way. Ditto for alcohol. USA beer market cannot be matched anywhere on Earth
Since the UK is closely affiliated with US culture and is sort of half-N America/half-Europe, they have also had a lot of upgrades with food and culture. London is an absolutely fabulous place to eat, and NOT just with restaurants that charge you an arm and a leg.
Do you think protectionist tarriffs within NATO should have to be removed?
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posted July 27, 2025 08:50 PM |
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You guys use so much ketchup and mayo that you won't have to worry about the global warming, your continent will sink way before under your weight. I am serious.
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posted July 27, 2025 09:15 PM |
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Salamandre said:
You guys use so much ketchup and mayo that you won't have to worry about the global warming, your continent will sink way before under your weight. I am serious.
Fat floats.
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posted July 28, 2025 06:17 AM |
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*USA beer market cannot be matched anywhere on Earth*
I don't remember an American beers gained gold medals, but rarely like Finnish lager beer named Tornion Panimon Lapland Original Lager won gold in 2024, in common gold medal countries/brewers are from Germany.. You can visit on world beer awards or more famous London spirits competition.. An american whiskey is much better than their beers, but not better than the Macallan whiskey, etc And then other gold medal wine is from Australia, but the most expensive wines are from France may be never participated in competition like a brand of cognacs are Hardy, Gautier, Rémy Martin, or crazy Henri IV Dudognon Heritage, etc or Italian D'Amalfi Limoncello Supreme liqueur ja is the most expensive liquor in the world.. More than 1000 wins got medals, accolades, etc is one brand of Mexican tequila, we can think that 1000 wins for 1000 years.. The next easiest matter is 978 different top-quality beers in Finnish liquor store.. But in Germany you can drink over 3000 different brands.. German guy told to me.. Ok those tariff will goes to the US for your pocket gets hole, you waste your money on the street, thus you haven't money.. Only you can talk with Corribus, when you don't know how to order and shipping to you.. If custom doesn't see what is in a post, you managed smuggling for cheap European price.. You also can wait for Temu sells alcoholic products, who knows.. Don't be Blue Blazer, etc thus alcoholic matter is a cocktail is from the US.. The world's famous is American cocktail.. Other Blizzard's cloud castle is unbeatable American beer - disabled delusion.. Don't change to MHz-brained cocktail..
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posted July 28, 2025 04:22 PM |
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Total tariffs ownage by Trump yesterday. EU kissed his bum.
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posted July 28, 2025 04:46 PM |
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That 15% thing isnt across the board on goods BTW. i.e. airplane parts.
Singing Coyote is the best beer in the world according to every beer expert on the planet. Also, US beer brands are soaring overseas. The reason? Not trapped in ideology. It is amazing what you can do when you don't have ideologues barking down your neck on what you can and cannot do. Who would have thought that creativity was a good thing?
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