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posted October 30, 2003 02:46 AM |
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If it was a matter of *should we or should we not?*
Its best safe to say we should not legalize.
We have to keep it alive tho its to much of a useful plant to let go extinct! Still, there are ways to make this possibly legal.
In the context above, we should make many things illegal.
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posted October 30, 2003 02:48 AM |
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Oh, I understood. And I agree that the Mob's butt needed some kicking, just as there are butts today in serious need of some kicking. But ultimately, good law enforcement didn't nullify the fact that Prohibition wasn't working.
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posted October 30, 2003 04:13 AM |
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Marijuana should only be illegal if there is a way to test for intoxication. Blood test do not work, because marijuana stays in the body for weeks. A blood test does not prove intoxication at specific time, but at some point over a few weeks. This test is necessary for the same reason as a breathalyzer test.
Furthermore, I think that both cigarettes and marijuana should have to pass the same standards as alcohol in order to be used.
Marijuana shouldn't be used publically except in places specifically meant for smoking like a bar. It can be allowed in homes or private places, but only in small quantities. Possessing greater amounts should require a license.
If this drug is ever made legal. Laws should be strict and any users must be isolated to smoking bars and the private of their own home.
If there is anything I'd like to see a heavy tax(like a 50% tax) on it's tobacco and marijuana.
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posted October 30, 2003 06:55 AM |
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Legalizing the use of marijuana and making it widely available legally to the masses will definitely increase the consumption of marijuana, and the industry will pick up momentum. Before long, the drug's use will substantially have increased compared to the minor increases that consumption will likely experience if the drug's use remains illegal.
The reason that Prohibition did not work was because the use of alcohol, being legal, was widespread and plentiful, and many were in the habit of drinking. When that habit was taken from them, the amendment was openly opposed by the masses. Legalizing marijuana would only spread its use and make it even more difficult to limit the use of the drug in subsequent years.
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posted October 30, 2003 12:20 PM |
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marijuana is already widely available.and how can you tell people if they can smoke or not???it`s just pure nonsense.ok,so you want marijuana to be illegal,because...?because it`s bad for health?well,you won`t stop noone(!) from smoking it just because it`s illegal.if you want to do something,you can make people aware of it`s bad effects,and NOT by forbidding it.you probably know if something is forbidden,it is more likely the people will do it.if someone says to me "you mustn`t do this and that and so on",i`ll just send him to hell.but if he only comes to me and tells me some facts about the whole thing,then i`ll probably think about it.and maybe even stop doing it.
but anyway,the fact that people smoke,has NOTHING to do with you! the only thing is you don`t like it.and if you don`t like it,noone should smoke!
well,who the hell do you think you are?!?
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posted October 30, 2003 02:37 PM |
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Making it legal will spread the use of marijuana, simply because it would be easier to obtain the legal drug than it is now. And I may not be a smoker, but I now that it can slow your reaction time and put the person who has smoked marijuana and those around him or her in danger, especially on the roads. Crime has nothing to do with police, yet the police department intervenes in criminal activity day after day. It's not a question of experience, it is a question of well-being.
I never said no one should smoke. You're right, I could argue and argue against smoking, but some people would still continue to smoke, regardless of what I say. I only stated that smoking can put those who smoke it in danger. Innocent people adversely affected by the actions of someone who is "stoned" deserve at least some consideration, don't you think?
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posted October 30, 2003 05:23 PM |
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now you are talking like if someone is high,then he puts people around him in danger.a big NO NO.maybe while he`s driving.but if a stoner sits next to you,how on earth can he put you in danger???it makes no sense.yes,it is obvious that you don`t smoke pot...
and marijuana IS ALREADY wide spread.
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posted October 30, 2003 05:30 PM |
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IMO, no prohibition should be 100% strict. Otherwise, it just won't work. A paper, nothing more. The only prohibition that can work is one with exeptions, one that can be enforced and regulated, and one with high penalties/punishments. And marihuana is not where we should begin. Alchohol, Nicotine and drugs, all these should be touched as well. And the emphasis of these prohibitions should be NOT the damage done to the user's health, but the influence of this to people around him. Generaly saying, go kill yourself if you want to, just make sure innocent people won't be influenced by your "fun", or you'll get yourself in a big trouble. This would as well be an example of ultimate freedom, though I have no idea how this would be possible de jure. As for the exact question of this poll, the word "legal/illegal" is too strict. Like binary. And everyone knows that binary system cannot be practised in real life. As Khaelo said, in real life there's a spectrum. And you can't solve any problem by just painting it black or white (hence legal/illegal). That's my opinion.
Back to the topic, there will always be people who will use marihuana, no matter what laws there are. You can't change that. But you CAN discourage some people from doing it. As burgessia said, not the prohibition is what can make you stop doing something bad, but the exact facts, information. What we need is smart, or colorful laws, not the b&w ones. Maybe they will be developed as TVs were, with time? We'll have to wait and see
P.S. Sorry for spelling/words mistakes, English is not my native language
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posted October 31, 2003 12:22 AM |
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Smoking gives off fumes, doesn't it? I would say that second hand smoke would qualify as a danger to others.
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posted October 31, 2003 12:31 AM |
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Most ppl who spend on this stuff spend more on ciggerates, pot, and beer than they pay for electricity, cable and gas.
I wish they made smoking ciggerates illegal cuz its such a pointless addiction. 10 years later, I doubt anyone would be addicted.
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posted October 31, 2003 12:46 AM |
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Most ppl who spend on this stuff spend more on ciggerates, pot, and beer than they pay for electricity, cable and gas.
that`s not your problem.
Shadowcaster - you can eat ganja.oh...do you have a car???
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posted October 31, 2003 12:49 AM |
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Shadowcaster - you can eat ganja.oh...do you have a car???
What is ganja? And yes, I have a car.
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posted October 31, 2003 01:08 AM |
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What is ganja? And yes, I have a car.
ganja=marijuana
cars are not illegal (if you buy them ).but they kill a lot of people...in accidents,car fumes are very bad for health (and enviroment),you spend a lot of money for it...but they are still legal.
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posted October 31, 2003 01:13 AM |
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Cars are harmful in the hands or irresponsible and reckless drivers, but the benefits they provide are much more substantial than the hazards that driving provides. The only benefit of marijuana is a temporary high.
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posted October 31, 2003 01:18 AM |
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Cars are harmful in the hands or irresponsible and reckless drivers, but the benefits they provide are much more substantial than the hazards that driving provides. The only benefit of marijuana is a temporary high.
car fumes!!!
marijuana is a pain killer.and we all like to feel good
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posted October 31, 2003 01:28 AM |
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Car fumes are an issue, but that is why many are attempting to clean the air through hyrdrogen and electric cares. They are trying to rectify that problem.
The body has natural pain killers, but marijuana used for medical reasons is not wrong, as long as it does not pose a threat to the patient's well-being.
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posted October 31, 2003 01:40 AM |
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The body has natural pain killers, but marijuana used for medical reasons is not wrong, as long as it does not pose a threat to the patient's well-being.
the threats are...?
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posted October 31, 2003 01:50 AM |
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I don't know, if the patient is unconcious, then slowed reaction time does not matter. I'm sure use of the drug would be fine for medical purposes, but I still hold to my belief that other uses of the drug should be illegal.
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posted October 31, 2003 01:50 AM |
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Hye ppl who dont want to smoke pot dont have to 
so whats the prob with legalizing it?
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posted October 31, 2003 01:57 AM |
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the problem are people who don`t want to legalize it
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