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Peacemaker
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posted February 17, 2004 05:59 AM |
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Imagine us all, here together...
Just imagine this, you guys....
Imagine this, just for one moment....
Close your eyes, and imagine us all, together, on one big, safe, immence rug, scrolled out in front of a great fireplace...
Here we all are... PH, Acu, Khaelo, Gootch, Wolfman, Celfious, Sir Stiven, Romy, Valerie, Redhawk, bort, Vesuvias, Kittenangel, Milena, Hexa, Nidhgrin, Old Timer, Cat, Djive, Lith, Kichking, Dargon, Celfious, Khayman [all those of you I have omitted, it's only my own senility by which I have omitted you but you KNOW who you are!!!!]
So, what do you think we should have to say to each other, after we have actually, finally, looked into each others' eyes? After we actually acknowledged one anothers' existence and feelings? After we actually heard one anothers' breath, and human voice, and feelings, and realised that we are, in fact, real?
Remember now, as you answer that question in your own mind, that we are all, now, lying on the same rug that is known as HC. How differently would we communicate, my sweet friends, if we really, really saw one another?
Can you all see that we are, in fact, lying on that rug, now, together right now? Can you all see, that if we really looked into one another's eyes, that we all came from the same place???
I see that. Does anyone want to join me in looking beyond this morass of debate, to the people who lie beyond???
PEACE OUT --
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Celfious
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posted February 17, 2004 06:53 AM |
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all i can say for now is I am really tired and dont have much to say..
edit after peacemaker said a thing
But you guys can help yourself to the red stuff that people think is pretty good.. some kind of drink they have in the black light room of west court.
I will also say that it would be insanity to see all of you people in a room
and also i would function normaly
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Peacemaker
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posted February 17, 2004 07:00 AM |
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Then come back, friend, when you are not so tired, and tell us what would be in your heart when you were lying on that big rug, in front of the great fire, with all of us.......
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Dragon_Slayer
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posted February 17, 2004 07:28 AM |
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Wel i certainly no what i am going to say right now... Why aren't i in that big warm rug???
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Dingo
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posted February 17, 2004 07:32 AM |
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I know where I'm at, in the Lazy Boy Chair while you all are on the ground.
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Consis
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Of Ruby
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posted February 17, 2004 08:17 AM |
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Edited By: Consis on 12 Jan 2005
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Love, War, and Peace
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Close your eyes, and imagine us all, together, on one big, safe, immence rug, scrolled out in front of a great fireplace...
Well, first I would be concerned with everyone's comfort. If the great hall in which you speak was well heated while snow fell and wind blew outside then I would remind myself of the great feast I made sure to prepare for everyone. While we sat, ate, and exchanged glances, I would be the first to break the silence. I would look for approval of the food first and once I got the customary nod, that we humans often do when our mouths are full with good food, I would start to tell my tale of when I was a young boy.
While the fire cracked and sparked I would tell you all of the time when I was about twelve years old. For you my little sister. She was ferociously attacked by about seven or eight pit bull dogs. She was brought in our house by Isaac and David(my two younger brothers), who helped her get away from them. The door opened and she was covered in blood crying for our mother but she was not home from work yet. Isaac told me how the dogs attacked her all at once. He said he thought it was because she was the smallest(physically) of them as they were walking down the street. I was afraid and didn't know what to do. Isaac said we should call Mom at her work but I didn't know the number. I think I was frozen with fear and panic at the sight of her horrific wounds. Mom came home from work after about 30 minutes and for some reason she wanted to send me to the guy's house to post a note on his door to tell him that his dogs had mauled my baby sister. She saw that I had grabbed my pocket knife. I was very afraid of going to do this, but she told me to do this anyway. I knew why she sent me. It wasn't about the note. Dad was gone and I don't remember why. I walked down the street to the house for several blocks. Just as I was coming close to the house, not more than three houses down, they came in a large group barking and running toward me. They attacked me from the front, my sides, and my back. One latched on to my left forearm and another latched on to my right wrist. Another grabbed me with his teeth on my left hip. They were trying to rip me apart. I didn't feel any pain. I'm right handed and that's where the knife was(already open). With my right hand I stabbed the one on my left arm in his throat until he let go. When he did I pounded the one on my right arm in his jaw until he let go. By then the other had let go and the rest were running as I fled myself. The others ran away when they heard their friends crying out. I wasn't sure if they were truly running or regrouping for another attack so I fled and threw the note on the ground. When I got home I was bleeding all over and Mom found many other bites on me in many different places. I don't remember attacking the other dogs but I must have. I told her what happened and she said she was proud of me. She said Dad would be proud too. When it was all said and done I killed three dogs and wounded two.
I felt as though I had done my part in her defense. I was proud to be her brother and I knew I could protect her with my courage. I was forever changed. To this day I still draw strength from that battle. It taught me to respect life and have courage in my heart.
After telling this glorious story I would show everyone the way I hit and stabbed the dogs and then I would show them the scars. It was a good battle and I felt strong because my sister would never be hurt by them again. Afterwards, the animal shelter came and removed the last of the dogs. As it turns out, the owner was an escaped convict and was avoiding the police. That's why he wasn't home. I don't know why he let his dogs out.
Does anyone else have a passionate story? What good is a fireplace and good food if we don't tell good stories? I like to hear about love, war, and peace.
After many years of listening to your stories I can see myself growing old in front of the fireplace and content as though life were a circle with no end and no beginning.
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Roses Are Red And So Am I
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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 17, 2004 01:09 PM |
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ok first i would have shove some of you into the fireplace... 
nah seriously.
But the main difference between chat or message boards and RL talking is that you cant see nor hear to person you speak too. And this is the ground for many misunderstandings.
My role on the rug would problably be the one that jokes around with you.. but also being one of them who is in control. Being the one who takes iniatives and being the one to tell consis to finally pass the food or telling acu that its not time for disco inferno yet...
But the biggest difference for you i guess would be to see that i actualy smile and i do it alot
The thing with messageboards is that its full opinions. Different peoples opinions. But for me to have complete harmony in HC or on the rug somethings must work, and its not until then you would see the "real me".
People ask me sometimes why i stir up so many arguements here and if im the same in RL. And honestly..no. I dont.
But i dont believe thats just because of me... if i saw you on that rug and someone did something that i didnt like i would off course say so... but i believe matters reaches another kind of edge on a messageboard which you usually dont see RL. Because as PM says you dont see the person behind the post, only the post and its opinions.
And opinions and beliefs makes who you are, so its easy to get your head down while typing em. And they are also easily misunderstood as its not all about what you write.. a big part is about how you percieve it aswell.
But i believe many of you would be suprised to see me in RL because of the more relaxed attitude and not discussions pushed to their edge all the time...
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Aculias
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posted February 17, 2004 05:43 PM |
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ALso Stiven not just not seeing each other & all but you really dont know that person well.
Otherwise I dont think people would treat others like they have towards certain people here.
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 17, 2004 06:18 PM |
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tell us what would be in your heart when you were lying on that big rug, in front of the great fire, with all of us.......
I'd tell the lamest joke ever and then the only thing I'd hear would be THOSE GAWD DAMN CRICKETS DAMN YOU, YOU FOUL BEASTS, DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!! and then I'd look around, embarassed and quietly walk away.
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privatehudson
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posted February 17, 2004 07:35 PM |
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I'd probably get up and leave, I don't like huge meetings, I much prefer small groups or individuals to talk to 
Not that I don't want to meet a lot of those people, but I prefer talking to people in a much easier to handle group.
Besides, there's quite a few in that list that I simply have no intention of ever coming face to face with
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Svarog
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posted February 17, 2004 07:48 PM |
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Well said Sir_Stiven. Consider I copy all that and add something of my own. 
First of all, while you enjoy yourselves in he warm cozy room, I’ll probably be the one, circling around the house and asking for admittance. If you refuse to let me in I’ll try the chimney, I guess. 
Seeing you all in RL, would look really weird. I do think that such a revelation will make things very differently than it is now.
When I post here, I communicate with a machine. I mind my manners, my vocabulary, everything… there is no feeling of intimacy, since everybody can read it. If we met in RL, we’d be much more spontaneous and we wouldn’t have to worry about being “off-topic”. Tell me, how many times have you wanted to post something, but then decided it was spam or it isn’t worth the effort to click the “Post Reply” button? HC is no replacement for RL or real friends, although I’d certainly wanna meet many people from here. As Stiven said, this is primarily a battleground for opinions and intellect, not emotions.
You can easily type everything on a machine, but it’s entirely different thing to say it, to look into the eyes of the person you are talking to, to touch them. Not everyone has the guts to do it. I have too much confidence in people and believe everything they say. But I often wonder how many “false identities” are in HC. People lie in RL, even if you know them for quite a long time. One may be sobbing tears being hurt, while writing “lol, I don’t care what you say” style of letter. Am I exaggerating a bit? Noooo…
But ironically, there are also a bunch of other people, who because of the same intimacy, open their hearts and say things they wouldn’t even say to their best friends. Making difference between these two kinds is not always easy. But, I don’t care. The only one they are lying is themselves. They are the ones who feel uncomfortable in their own skin.
I feel like we are each surrounded with some kind of wall, and we can only send things out the wall, nothing gets inside it. We don’t even see who’s inside those walls. Peacemaker, I see this thread as an effort to reach our hands out of the walls, but don’t know if we can make it.
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The_Gootch
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posted February 17, 2004 11:02 PM |
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First thing I'd do is slap Consis.
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hamsi128
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posted February 17, 2004 11:43 PM |
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First thing I'd do is slap Consis.
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Khaelo
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posted February 17, 2004 11:48 PM |
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Aside from the smiles and laughter and tones of voice that Stiven and Svarog mention, there is another thing missing from messageboard discussions. Silence. We only see those who talk. In real life, on a real rug, there will be someone sitting and just listening to the conversation. That person doesn't verbally contribute, but their presence is known and acknowledged by others. Their silence forms part of others' impressions of them. In cyberspace, no one can hear you lurk.
On a real rug, I'd be that silent person. It's not that my personality is different online than in RL. It's just a matter of the medium. My presence is different, and more prolific , online because my eloquence and confidence is in the written word and not the spoken. I think "false identities" are by and large an illusion (deliberate deceptions & sock-puppets aside). People reflect themeselves in all communication, but different aspects of their personalities emerge in a text-based discussion than they do in a face-to-face one.
Oh, and I disagree that the discussions here are intellectually based rather than emotional. Just look at the most heated debates -- emotions are very much in play. For my experience, at least, I'm not typing to an emotionless, predictable machine here. This isn't a conversation with my computer. When posting and reading, I think about social issues: what am I going to say, if I say this will so-and-so be offended, I don't want to look silly, that was a funny joke, I like this person, I don't like that person -- just as I do when interacting with people face-to-face. As far as I'm concerned, the primary difference between the virtual HC rug and the hypothetical fireplace rug is the degree of my participation, based on the quality of my articulation.
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I feel like we are each surrounded with some kind of wall, and we can only send things out the wall, nothing gets inside it. We don’t even see who’s inside those walls. Peacemaker, I see this thread as an effort to reach our hands out of the walls, but don’t know if we can make it
This is beautifully put, Svarog. I happen to disagree with the "nothing gets inside it" part, but it's a lovely metaphor for social interaction.
Edit: tweaked wording; yet another advantage of a text-based communication. If it doesn't say what you mean, you can fix it.
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Svarog
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posted February 18, 2004 01:02 AM |
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Aside from the smiles and laughter and tones of voice that Stiven and Svarog mention, there is another thing missing from messageboard discussions. Silence. We only see those who talk. In real life, on a real rug, there will be someone sitting and just listening to the conversation.
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bort
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posted February 18, 2004 01:52 AM |
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I, for one, was shocked to arrive on the rug and find out that I was surrounded by Turing Test machines.
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Dingo
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posted February 18, 2004 01:54 AM |
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Consis is that a true story, about the Dogs?
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Celfious
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posted February 18, 2004 02:01 AM |
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if they were realy talking that long I would be amazed that someone would talk that long.
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redhawk
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posted February 18, 2004 02:12 AM |
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We are very different in rf, than we are one heroes. I could bet that the topics and discussions would be more heated and but maybe more politically correct as more than a few of hc members would not be so brave or assinine when face to face with certain people. I for one have made my opinions about more than a few members, Peacemaker, consis, wolfman, khaelo, and tigerangel. I would smile, hug and shake your hands, we could get along very well. There is a couple of others that are my friends in rf. so We won't mention them here. as for most others, I haven't read there posts enough to make A dicision yet. There is a few however that I would rather pop them in the mouth, than sit in the same room with them. I don't like to feel that way, I am just being honest. RF wouldn't work, Svarog is right, OH, svarog is on the hug list to. lololol...
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Peacemaker
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posted February 18, 2004 02:47 AM |
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LOL!
Lovely responses everybody. I am honored that you would take this image and run with it as you have.
Consis: You tell a story like a true Tribal. Thank you for sharing. I would ask, what other stories about your lives would others like to share with re-enactments by the fire?
Gootch: THEN I'll slap YOU, kick you in the nads (like I have so many time before), push you down on the rug deftly pinning you there, and lick your forehead while you were helpless!!!! (EEEEW ROFL! -- just kidding my friend.)
Khaelo: No doubt, girlfriend, that our debates are laced with emotions. I just wonder -- in what ways the manifestations of those emotions would differ if we were to engage in them in person?
PH: Would you leave even if I were there??? (I hope not...)
To all those of you whose names I left off the initial list, please know that you are all here too -- I just listed the names that came most readily to mind of the people I communicate most often with.
Please, carry on, carry on.
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