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mvassilev 
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posted June 11, 2008 04:08 PM |
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All right, now the potential McCain VPs:
 Mitt Romney, former Governor of Massachussets:
Pros:
Business experience
Executive experience
Might put Massachussets into play
Originally from Michigan, which is a swing state, could lock it up for McCain
Cons:
Mormon, so might deterr some people
Utah is solidly Republican
Used to be pro-choice, so the base doesn't trust him
Brings few crossover votes
Verdict: favorable
 Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas:
Pros:
Very good support among Evangelicals
Has working-class support
Executive experience
Is from Arkansas, so if Obama picks Clinton to put Arkansas into play, Huckabee might put Arkansas back into the solid Republican camp
Cons:
Without Clinton, Arkansas is not a swing state
Distrusted among fiscal conservatives
Verdict: not favorable
 Fred Thompson, actor, former Senator from Tennessee:
Pros:
Solidly conservative credentials
Tennessee might be a swing state
Cons:
Former lobbyist
Very boring speaker
Brings few crossover voters
Verdict: not favorable
 Rudy Giuliani, former Mayor of New York City:
Pros:
Might bring New York into play
Executive experience
Law-and-order reputation
Pro-choice, pro-same-sex-marriage, pro-stem cell research stances might bring crossover voters
Cons:
Unpopular with social conservatives
Stupid campaign strategy puts his intelligence in question
Verdict: not favorable
 Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana:
Pros:
Executive experience
Business experience
Minority, so might bring some to the GOP
Cons:
Brings few crossover voters
Verdict: not favorable
 Charlie Crist, Governor of Florida:
Pros:
Executive experience
Florida is a large swing state
Moderate
Rumors that he's gay might help him with homosexuals
Not very high-profile
Cons:
Rumors that he's gay might hurt him with conservatives
Verdict: very favorable
 Mark Sanford, Governor of South Carolina, former Representative:
Pros:
Executive experience
South Carolina is a swing state
Occasional maverick
Conservative
Cons:
Conservative
Not very high-profile
Verdict: favorable
 Tim Pawlenty, Governor of Minnesota:
Pros:
Executive experience
Moderate
Would bring Minnesota into play
Cons:
Not very popular with conservatives
Verdict: favorable
 Condolezza Rice, Secretary of State:
Pros:
Foreign policy experience
Appeal to African-Americans
Appeal to women
Pro-choice
Cons:
Pro-choice
Too close to Bush
Verdict: favorable
 David Petraeus, commanding general in Iraq:
Pros:
Military experience
Represents new Iraq strategy
Cons:
No political experience
Verdict: favorable
 Rob Portman, former Congressman from Ohio, former Trade Representative, former Director of Budget:
Pros:
Ohio is a swing state
Economic experience
Cons:
Not high-profile at all
Verdict: favorable
 Michael Bloomberg, Independent mayor of New York City:
Pros:
Moderate
Former Republican, former Democrat, so would be anti-partisan
Executive experience
Would put New York into play
Cons:
Not popular with conservatives
Verdict: very favorable
So, for McCain, the best choice would be Bloomberg or Crist, followed probably by Pawlenty, Rice, or Portman.
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posted June 13, 2008 09:59 AM |
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*sigh*
I really love John McCain. If only he would bring our troops home I could vote for him. I like his policies over Obama's. I like his history. I like his attitude. I like his style of leadership. I wish he wasn't keeping the troops in Iraq because then I would vote for him.
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posted June 13, 2008 10:11 AM |
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From the CNN: "Voters who say that issues are more important than the candidates' personal qualities are going for Obama by a 58 percent to 37 percent margin," he said. "But McCain has a 53 percent -41 percent edge among voters who sya that personal qualities are more important than the candidates' stands on the issues."
Now what does this say about the Republicans? 
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted June 14, 2008 12:57 AM |
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Binabik
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posted June 14, 2008 02:03 AM |
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Now what does this say about the Republicans?
That approximately half the people are smart enough to vote for a Republican and the other half are stupid enough to vote for a Democrat?
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Mytical
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posted June 14, 2008 02:14 AM |
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Vote third party. Bobo the Chimp for President, and all his relatives for congress/senate..oh wait..they are already there..  .
Now on a serious note. This election was/is/will always be clouded in the future. I am going to call it now. If Obama gets elected, we will be branded Sexist, because Hillary didn't. If Hillary gets elected, we will be branded Racist, because Obama didn't. If McCain gets elected, we will be branded both Racist and Sexist. Doesn't matter WHY whoever wins wins.
It should not be about race, or sex, but who is best for the job. Personally the one I identify more with is Obama. Sure I don't like every one of his political views, but this isn't utopia. Things arn't perfect. I hope he does get elected, but not because or despite that he is black. Sorry to say this, but I could give a fig that he is black.
He could be purple with yellow stripes, pink pokadots, and neon triangles all over his body. Wouldn't mean a thing to me. If he gets the job done, great. If not, I will be the first to admit I backed the wrong canidate. Simple as that.
If you agree with McCain's views, you should vote for him. Make sure you know his actual voting record, ignore the hype. If he gets elected, man (woman) up and say. "Hey I messed up, backed the wrong canidate." if something goes wrong. ((Wonder how many people would admit voting for Ol Georgie?))
If he gets elected and does an amazing job, feel free to tell me "Told ya so!"  .
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posted June 14, 2008 03:29 AM |
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If Hillary gets elected
Mrs. Clinton lost over a week ago. Keep up with the times. 
I'd only really support McCain if he makes a hugely conservative VP pick. Someone like Romney wouldn't even cut it.
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Mytical
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posted June 14, 2008 03:31 AM |
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Oh I know. Though apparently Hillary doesn't yet.
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posted June 14, 2008 11:06 AM |
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Actually, she conceded on TV last Saturday afternoon.
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posted June 15, 2008 06:01 PM |
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I would probably vote for Mccain if I had to choose, but I relay dislike them both. I'm authoritarian left and my opinions aren't suited for American politics.
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posted June 19, 2008 08:14 AM |
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((Wonder how many people would admit voting for Ol Georgie?))
Yeah, I wanna hear some names *points the flashlight accidentally at Binabik and Omega*
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posted June 19, 2008 08:21 AM |
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You are correct. I voted for President Bush. I didn't the first time because I didn't care who won in 2000. I was too busy with my own little world (like so many college kids) to care about who was running my country. Not my proudest moment.
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mvassilev
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posted June 19, 2008 08:51 AM |
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WHY would you vote for Bush? Ever?
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posted June 19, 2008 09:05 AM |
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Because I viewed him as a stronger candidate than Kerry with his one-point "I'm not Bush" plan.
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mvassilev
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posted June 19, 2008 10:22 AM |
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I feel that Kerry's one point overrode all of Bush's points.
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posted June 19, 2008 10:45 AM |
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I've gathered that.
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Mytical
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posted June 22, 2008 12:47 AM |
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Well I didn't vote for Bush, but I didn't vote at all. Which is worse. I could make excuses, but there are absentee ballots and such you can get. Had I voted, most likely (sadly) it would have been for Bush. Yep, I would have made a horrible mistake, yay for being busy .
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posted June 22, 2008 07:37 AM |
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I wouldn't trust Condolezza Rice for a second.
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posted June 23, 2008 07:26 AM |
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I wouldn't trust Condolezza Rice for a second.
I trust Colin Powel even less... for the lies he is never to be held accountable for. It just gives me the chills to remember the praise he got from mainstream US media - it was unquestionable. This "uncontested evidence Mr. Powell has brough for us" and so forth... Makes me want to puke to think of it. (no wonder Iraq war was supported by a large portion of the American population, and almost exclusively opposed everywhere else in the Western World)
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posted July 07, 2008 08:36 PM |
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http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-candidates-descriptions
Top 10 answers voters gave to describe candidates [most interesting ones are bolded]:
John McCain:
1. Old, 19 percent
2. Military service, 9 percent
3. Record, qualifications, 8 percent
4. Bush, 7 percent
5. Strength, 7 percent
6. Insider, politician, 7 percent
7. Iraq, terrorism, 6 percent
8. Honest, 5 percent
9. Republican, 5 percent
10. (tie) Moral/good and dishonest, 4 percent [lol, moral and dishonest are tied]
Barack Obama:
1. Outsider, change, 20 percent
2. Lack of experience, 13 percent
3. Dishonest, 9 percent
4. Inspiring, 8 percent
5. Liberal, 6 percent
6, 7 (tie). Obama's race, young, 6 percent
8. Not likable, 5 percent
9. Intelligent, 4 percent
10. Muslim, 3 percent [fail]
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