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Dj
Dj


Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
posted April 12, 2008 01:21 PM

yes, it's an old version. This is a newer version...

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ChaosHydra
ChaosHydra


Famous Hero
posted April 14, 2008 09:44 AM

Wow that's pretty amazing.

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Feenor
Feenor


Known Hero
posted April 14, 2008 02:48 PM

That golden empire state bulding in the middle is grail?
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Hobbit
Hobbit


Supreme Hero
posted April 14, 2008 06:27 PM

I'm not sure... It can be a Mage Guild (and I think it is)... But where's the Grail then?
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Dj
Dj


Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
posted April 14, 2008 06:47 PM

yes, that 'tower' is the mage guild. And I think that neither the Grail's properties, neither the Grail's look isn't revealed atm.

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Hobbit
Hobbit


Supreme Hero
posted April 20, 2008 06:25 PM
Edited by Hobbit at 18:25, 20 Apr 2008.

Quote:
It not the final version of Bastion.. Graal on it picture is not present!


Yes, we know, but it's the last version. And we know that Graal isn't here (as first level dwelling)...

I'm worring that Bastion Team isn't working in any way...
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SwampLord
SwampLord


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Lord of the Swamp
posted May 01, 2008 01:10 AM

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NO WAY.
They ARE neutral units and they WILL BE neutral units. I don't think that placing neutral units in cities is great and I think neither do Wog Team and NTG.



elementals also used to be neutral units.
now they are in conflux.


Yeah, and we all saw how fairly balanced Conflux was.
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baklajan
baklajan


Adventuring Hero
posted May 23, 2008 07:54 PM
Edited by baklajan at 19:57, 23 May 2008.

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I'm worring that Bastion Team isn't working in any way...


Bastion production has been halted because of the team's claims that the creatures' abilities can't be fully implemented without WoG 3.59. However this point of view has been heavily criticized due to the availability of a working creature/ability/town emulator. Anyway, currently Bastion team allege to be working on WoG 3.59 as part of the CoreWOG team. Ironically enough, no part of their 'secret' work has ever been publicly released. No press releases were ever made. As for the Bastion town itself, information leaks tell us that the town, creatures and campaign were finished more than a year ago.

So, in other words, we just have to wait until the team agree to use the emulator (most likely) or make WoG 3.59 (very unlikely since no evidence of progress surfaced in years).

Knowing those people, I'm sure that Bastion won't get scrapped. It will be released in some form or another. The upcoming HotA addon should make a good proof of the emulator's power and probably give the Bastion team some impulse for finishing WoG 3.59 or switching to the emulator.

So, no need to worry.

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akstylish
akstylish


Adventuring Hero
posted May 26, 2008 06:43 AM

Quote:
WoG 3.59

3.59? Does this mean WoG team hasn't abandoned the project yet?
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baklajan
baklajan


Adventuring Hero
posted May 27, 2008 02:44 AM
Edited by baklajan at 02:47, 27 May 2008.

This only means that the developers of Bastion put up the torch left by the WoG team, adopted the title of Team CoreWOG, and are allegedly working on 3.59. It's not clear whether 3.59 will see the daylight, but CoreWOG have firmly stated that Bastion won't be released before 3.59 since it's strictly dependent on some of the features planned in 3.59. Of course, miracles happen, maybe they change their mind and  switch to the emulator some day. Personally I'm very skeptical about the release of 3.59 since no screenshots or press releases were out for many long months, but they've sworn on many occasions that 3.59 is to come. 2010? 2014? Your guess? You aren't getting Bastion before 3.59, that's the only thing I'm absolutely sure about since it was stated officially on behalf of the team.

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akstylish
akstylish


Adventuring Hero
posted May 27, 2008 08:51 AM

No offense, but why did they even plan on this town if it's not sure if 3.59 will be released?
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baklajan
baklajan


Adventuring Hero
posted May 27, 2008 07:16 PM
Edited by baklajan at 19:17, 27 May 2008.

The project was started back in 2004 when everybody was running around yelling '3.59 is coming!'. Gradually 3.59 was cancelled but people didn't want to believe it until recently because of the frequent rumors about Slava's possible comeback, etc. Finally Bastion developers decided to make 3.59 on their own because Bastion can't be released without it. But in fact, the only thing that stands in the way is the lack of possibility to implement some specific creature abilities. If they revised the abilities and changed them to something implementable, it would be possible to release Bastion for 3.58f. Bastion could have been out back in early 2007, as a matter of fact.

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baklajan
baklajan


Adventuring Hero
posted May 27, 2008 07:16 PM
Edited by baklajan at 19:16, 27 May 2008.

 

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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted May 27, 2008 07:26 PM

Do you mean this by the use of scripting and data editing to replace another town, or is it actually possible to add new towns without replacement into 3.58f?  If not, I'm sure this stands in the way as well.

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baklajan
baklajan


Adventuring Hero
posted May 27, 2008 10:24 PM

Certain currently existing scripts allow for adding new towns and creatures. The creature limit has been shifted from 255 to about 1300 through emulation. However it's impossible to script certain exotic creature abilities.

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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted May 27, 2008 10:37 PM

Then surely there's a better reason for the Bastion's creators to delay their work for even more years rather than release a workable version on the game we have...

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corwin
corwin


Hired Hero
posted June 01, 2008 02:11 PM

Greetings to all!
1. Some time ago WoG team and NTG team united their forces, so the newly CoreWoG team was formed, which is now developing WoG 3.59. WoG project is still active, several team members (including me) are working with code sources with Slava's support. We will make official statement soon.
2. Bastion still requiers some work. It MAY BE possible to realize it through "emulation", but thoes who speak about it don't fully understand all difficulties of such process (when i see them directly). So it is not "our way to go". By the way we plan many new features (unplanned before) in the new WoG version, so Bastion will use this features to.

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Ranger
Ranger


Known Hero
The Forest Knight
posted June 01, 2008 03:13 PM

WoG is alive?? Very cool !!! I can't wait for 3.59!!! Please give some info of your working.

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kesnar
kesnar


Famous Hero
from Kesnaria
posted June 01, 2008 09:22 PM

Can you predict when 3.59 will be ready?!?
e.g.HOtA says that over winter 2008-2009 it will be ready.Can you say something like that?!?


Anyway that's great news.
Keep it alive!!!

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baklajan
baklajan


Adventuring Hero
posted June 02, 2008 10:36 AM

Quote:
1. Some time ago WoG team and NTG team united their forces, so the newly CoreWoG team was formed, which is now developing WoG 3.59. WoG project is still active, several team members (including me) are working with code sources with Slava's support. We will make official statement soon.
2. Bastion still requiers some work. It MAY BE possible to realize it through "emulation", but thoes who speak about it don't fully understand all difficulties of such process (when i see them directly). So it is not "our way to go". By the way we plan many new features (unplanned before) in the new WoG version, so Bastion will use this features to.

This has been said over and over again for nearly thousand times... So, guys, I frankly advise you to draw conclusions listening to your own reason. I don't pretend to be the last instance of truth, but my common sense tells me WoG 3.59 won't be out before 2014.

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