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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Talking about M&M 6 and M&M 7
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Finarfinn
Finarfinn


Hired Hero
son of Finve
posted August 01, 2006 05:06 PM

I played MM 6 and 7 with great pleasure, several years ago. They are one the best RPG games for me. In MM 7 I learnd grandmaster Stealing, but I didnt understand how to use this skill. Please, explain me that enigma

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ratmonky
ratmonky


Famous Hero
Abu Hur Ibn Rashka
posted August 01, 2006 06:02 PM

Press and hold control while clicking on the person you want to rob or the object you want to steal. Beware cause if you get caught you'll lose reputation and people around will become hostile to you

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hobowu
hobowu


Known Hero
posted August 02, 2006 09:31 AM

is the stealing skill actually worth it? what do you get to steal?
I remember going around massacering elven sentries in Avlee and the Tularean Forest (omg, i still remember all the town names! Deyja was the best!, love the zombies that pop out if you don't pay a fee... do u guys know that eventually the zombies run out?!? it really surprised me.
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Finarfinn
Finarfinn


Hired Hero
son of Finve
posted August 02, 2006 11:32 AM

That is it. I must play MM7 again, to use this skill correctly! Thanks

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hobowu
hobowu


Known Hero
posted August 02, 2006 01:53 PM

Where was the last guy you had to fight in MM7? i couldn't find him!
also, in my version, there was a bug... i couldn't open the tavern door in the dwarven city... thus i couldn't complete arcomage ( i love that card game)
also, has anyone realised that above the tavern(at least i think it's the tavern) in Tatalia, there's a mage guild?? You have to move back facing the door to the docks (back against the fence), and use jump spell. As soon as you jump, quickly click the door and you can get in..... lol!
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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted August 02, 2006 02:27 PM

Yes, it's a guild of the mind (one of the better). Fly will also do the trick.

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Antipaladin
Antipaladin


Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted August 02, 2006 03:10 PM

you should really check my mod for MM7 that im working on,new races and items

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ratmonky
ratmonky


Famous Hero
Abu Hur Ibn Rashka
posted October 26, 2006 10:15 PM

Let's continue the discussions on these awesome games.

After I failed for a dozens of times I started another game of MM6 and this time I mean to win it. I've got a few questions though, does healing in Baa temples have any negative side effects? I don't like the evil laugh of the Baa priest when I leave the temple :-(

and one more, how exactly do the HP and SP bonuses work when I get promotions?

and the last one. The master level of some skills requires the hero to have some kind of promotion. If I have the honorary promotion, will I be able to master that skill?
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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted October 27, 2006 01:57 PM
Edited by Ecoris at 13:59, 27 Oct 2006.

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does healing in Baa temples have any negative side effects? I don't like the evil laugh of the Baa priest when I leave the temple :-(
No. IIRC donating money lowers your reputation.

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and one more, how exactly do the HP and SP bonuses work when I get promotions?
They work in the same way. I'll describe HP (SP is then just the same).
Each class has a base HP value (called baseHP) at each promotion level. Your total amount of hit points is calculated as: startHP + baseHP*level + other bonuses (endurance and so on). When you recieve a promotion for a character his baseHP will increase and therefore his total HP will increase accordingly. This means that if your level 10 knight is promoted to cavalier you'll not "lose" the additional HP for those 10 levels, in other words: it makes no difference at what level you get promoted in the end.
I don't know the exact values.

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and the last one. The master level of some skills requires the hero to have some kind of promotion. If I have the honorary promotion, will I be able to master that skill?
Yes. Notice that your skill level does not necessarily have to be more than 4. You can become master of spirit and air even though your skill level is only 4!

If you want to know the exact values of baseHP and baseSP (or the startHP/startSP) for the various classes I suggest you ask the veterans who hang out in Redkneck´s MM6 Tavern. (no membership required).

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FireSpirit
FireSpirit


Famous Hero
with warm hands
posted October 27, 2006 07:43 PM
Edited by FireSpirit at 19:44, 27 Oct 2006.

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does healing in Baa temples have any negative side effects? I don't like the evil laugh of the Baa priest when I leave the temple :-(
No. IIRC donating money lowers your reputation.


Are you absolutely certain of this? I seem to recall that even healing in such temple has unwanted side effects on reputation.
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antipaladin
antipaladin


Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted October 28, 2006 12:12 PM

healing does lowers rep. I wonder one thing though,about the story,in mm7 ther are Kreegans in baa temple,which is there connection? if memmory serves they're allays but for what reason? Baa are humane,kreegan,are against all humane,puzzled i am..
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ratmonky
ratmonky


Famous Hero
Abu Hur Ibn Rashka
posted October 28, 2006 12:34 PM

Thanks Ecoris for help.

I got another problem, could be a bug.

I can't find Nicolai, it's October and he's neither in Mire of the Damned Circus, nor in any other Circuses. Everywhere I go I get the "The circus has moved" message. I'm using the original ripped version and none of the patches seem to work on my computer. Is this a common bug and is there a way to find Nicolai?
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antipaladin
antipaladin


Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted October 28, 2006 12:38 PM

i dont realy remmber but ill link u to avery helpfull website

uhs-hints.com..
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FireSpirit
FireSpirit


Famous Hero
with warm hands
posted October 28, 2006 02:20 PM

Try the Darkmoor circus in August. I think I found Nicolai there during that month.
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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted October 28, 2006 04:34 PM

The Circus is only open 3 months a year:
April: Blackshire
August: Mire of the Damned
December: Bootleg Bay

I usually wait until April before talking with Nicolai so that I may complete Wilbur Humprey's quests.

Note: Each month is exactly 4 weeks = 28 days. There is a one-off bug with the circus opening times  which means that they 'arrive' one day before (i.e. it opens 28th March/July/November) and 'leave' one day before (is closed the 28th April/August/December).

I am not 100% sure that healing in a temple of baa will not lower your reputation, but I've never experienced it myself and I use them a lot.

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ratmonky
ratmonky


Famous Hero
Abu Hur Ibn Rashka
posted October 28, 2006 05:36 PM
Edited by ratmonky at 17:45, 28 Oct 2006.

hehe, I thought circus was open all year round, and they just changed places. 2 more months to wait :-(

do i need spend skill points on non magic skills after I reach master level? Will it make any difference?

btw, i'm using Mike Marcelais's hints and tips. I find it very useful
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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted October 28, 2006 06:22 PM
Edited by Ecoris at 18:23, 28 Oct 2006.

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do i need spend skill points on non magic skills after I reach master level? Will it make any difference?

btw, i'm using Mike Marcelais's hints and tips. I find it very useful
If you right click on a skill in your skill window you'll see a description of it for basic/expert/master e.g. "skill reduces recovery time" or "skill added to damage". So increasing your skill beyond 8 will have an effect. It would spent my points on magic skill, but that's just a personal preference. If you want to be improve your effectiveness with weapons you can spend points in this category. But it'll be late in the game before you've mastered all the skills you should master for a given character.

BTW, I enjoy games more without walkthroughs/guides (which Mike Marcelais' page is, http://www.the-spoiler.com/RPG/New.World.Computing/might.and.magic6.3/mm6.htm, I presume). I prefer to solve and discover things myself the first few times I play the game. Only if I get stuck I'll look for help. I wish I could remove all my knowledge of MM6 and play it again like the first time. How far are you in the story line, ratmonky?

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ratmonky
ratmonky


Famous Hero
Abu Hur Ibn Rashka
posted October 28, 2006 06:50 PM

I'm only using Mike's page to find the locations of trainers, travel schedules and stuff like that and only when I really get stuck.

I've done most of the quests in NS, CI, NH, Mist and BB, got the first round of promotions except druid one and now I'm slowly clearing Frozen Highlands of Magyars and harpies. I haven't been to Silver cove yet and i'm afraid to travel to other regions :-). My characters are Knight, Archer, Cleric and Sorcerer, currently in level 26 or something.
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hobowu
hobowu


Known Hero
posted October 30, 2006 12:05 PM
Edited by hobowu at 12:07, 30 Oct 2006.

MM7's a tad bit better than 6, IMO, (8's even better )... any of u guys  found that light grandmaster thing yet?  it's so hard to find! what's with those dodgy titans.... they're so easy to kill! drop a meteor shower on them...

ahh, ratmonky, in ur sig... mozart's requiem... we sang that for this celebration concert thingo sounded great!
"dies irae, dies illa, solvaet caecum in fa villa....." ^_^

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antipaladin
antipaladin


Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted October 30, 2006 12:11 PM

what grandmaster light thingy envloved titans??
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