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angelito
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posted July 25, 2006 04:13 PM

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Angelito,
Just keep hogging all the computers for yourself and that should keep any children in your house off of them.

Not sure if i get u right here, or u perhaps missunderstood my former post Consis.
I think the internet is a great thing and all people should have access to it. You can get in contact with people all over the world, u keep up (or even revive) the knowledge of your english language. People can get all informations they want, without buying a big encyclopedia (u write it like that?).
But like it is in "real life", u can't have the good part without accepting the bad part. Kids nowadays are too smart refering to security settings, and i don´t want to be that restrictive towards my daughter anyways (which dad wants that?). So she does her own stuff on the net, and i don´t spy around to see where she went and what stuff she looked at. But she is 16, so not too much a child anymore. Boys and girls with age of 11-13 are a bit different i think.
Not sure how old your children are (forgot it if u mentioned it) and if the internet is a topic u talk about with them.
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posted July 25, 2006 08:17 PM

As a parent trying to give your child a better life so they wont go through all the pressures of life.
Just got to do the best we can.
All anyone can ask for from anyone.
Your kids or us parents.
Just do the best you can.
Cant be mad for doing your best.

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posted July 25, 2006 09:07 PM

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DarkTitan:
If a girl is a snow, and they are the terms used, she will recieve alot of critisism, especially from girls who choose to respect their bodies lol.
{my bold}
K, I know you didn't think too hard before using this phrase - at least I hope you didn't lol.  
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Why? it because a guy just sticks it in the pulls it out where as a gurl can be impregnated, and also other consequences im not sure i can mention

You know I was just thinking about this.  It seems that sex is something that is 'done' to a girl.  There is power involved where the guy conquers the girl and acts on her for his own gratification.  Sex doesn't have to be like this  A girl can actually be an equal and satisfied participant  I don't think it is necessarily the pregnation thing - but about 'having' the girl.

Anyway...

violent_flower:
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At what point will the legal system say, “What the **** were you doing in some guys dorm drunk with your pants down? Make them own what they have done to provoke and lead these high school and college boys along. It is just apparent that crying wolf seems to work. I know that there are cases where this **** happens and it was not provoked. It is still no excuse for someone to do this but come the **** on. Please give me some feed back on that!!!!!!!!!


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Ah if it concensual {safer} sex then there is nothing wrong with these girls being there.  Hang on are you talking about gang rapes, oh yeah the b was asking for it.

ARE YOU JOKING???

There is NO excuse for a guy to force himself on a girl.  EVER.  NO MATTER WHAT SHE HAS SAID OR IS WEARING.  If she says NO then thass it.  Just like when my man says NO, I have to go without

It seems that you are suggesting that guys have no control over their libido, and yet girls are born with some innate ability to control theirs.  

WRONG

It is a matter of choice and responsibility and self dicipline that has to evolve just like everything else.  Lust is a powerful thing, probably more powerful than love for teenagers.  The problem is because of social conditioning girls confuse feelings of lust with feelings of love and therefore think that they are in love with these guys - this also adds to the emotional damage of being 'used'.

I am very surprised at the number of people that think a girl/woman 'asked for it' {rape}.  Damn.  Of course the law should not condone this mentality.

When parents do not feel comfortable talking to their children about sex/ or view it in a negative way - labelling them snows or whatever, then girls can end up with all kinds of emotional barriers to do with sex and their bodies.

Or they can just do it behind their parent's back.  And not be as informed and be more likely to have unsafe sex.

'nuff, I will be back later to finish



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posted July 25, 2006 09:54 PM
Edited by russ at 21:54, 25 Jul 2006.

right on, kooka! I was thinking about writing replies to exactly the same phrases you chose to pick, but with you in here it looks like I won't have to

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DarkTitan
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posted July 26, 2006 05:03 AM

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Quote:
DarkTitan:
If a girl is a snow, and they are the terms used, she will recieve alot of critisism, especially from girls who choose to respect their bodies lol.
{my bold}
K, I know you didn't think too hard before using this phrase - at least I hope you didn't lol.



im not sure wot u mean here exactly. hehe that was basically a direct quote from a girl who couldnt understand why i get so attached to 'snows', and tried to explain her choice why she doesnt want to have sex. She is my age (17) and her direct thoughts were that girls that have sex with multiple partners at a young age do not respect their bodies. I agree with this in a way, im not saying every gurl who has sex doesnt, im more talking about these girls that have sex on their mind as much as boys (is this even possible?) ..

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Why? it because a guy just sticks it in the pulls it out where as a gurl can be impregnated, and also other consequences im not sure i can mention

You know I was just thinking about this.  It seems that sex is something that is 'done' to a girl.  There is power involved where the guy conquers the girl and acts on her for his own gratification.  Sex doesn't have to be like this  A girl can actually be an equal and satisfied participant  I don't think it is necessarily the pregnation thing - but about 'having' the girl.

I agree here completely. A girl SHOULD be an equal and satified participant, but this only really occurs when she is in a relationship, and is not seen to be easy. Imo girls who 'put out' on a regular basis are just seen as trophies for guys, something that one can gloat about screwing. I should no i have done it. Depending on how hard she is to get, or how many guys have achieved similar success will determine the level of boasting. This is why i see sex as somewhat biased towards men. Men can have as many sexual encounters as they like, whereas woman start to enjoy their sexuality, and they are usually condemned for it.


Also violent_flower im not going to join the pack of people offering parenting tips, because i dont think u need or want them. You are obviously a experienced parent, i was just wondering whether u were planning to ease up on your constant in depth examination of your son's life? I do not mean anything nasty by that comment. Im just wondering when your going to give him some more freedom to make his own choices. Obviously its going to happen, and thats why im asking. Whether you decide to do it now or later has no affect on anyone here, i was just curious. I think he is at the age where he could stil be monitored, i agree with your parenting tactics at present. I no you neither want to hear this nor probly care, bt i do think as he gets older ( in the immediate future) you are going to have to loosen your grip on his life, and let him make his own choices (and this is coming from a kid myself who has parents who arent too strict, but dont let me run wild either).

Also i was wondering, has your son come across any websites you dont think he should be on, and what is your approach to this? I ask this because my mother made the same threats to me about monitoring my internet usage, and it terrified to me to go on any 'inappropriate' sites. hehe however i soon realised she wasnt paying too close attention, more just a threat

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kookastar
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posted July 30, 2006 12:22 AM
Edited by kookastar at 08:36, 30 Jul 2006.

Thanks for your response DarkTitan  

However...
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She is my age (17) and her direct thoughts were that girls that have sex with multiple partners at a young age do not respect their bodies. I agree with this in a way, im not saying every gurl who has sex doesnt, im more talking about these girls that have sex on their mind as much as boys (is this even possible?) ..


OK, to paraphrase: chicks who enjoy sex as much as guys {and have multiple partners} do not respect their bodies?

I personally disagree with this statement on a number of levels.

As I have already said - yes girls can and should enjoy sex as much as guys - and yes some of us think about it ALOT.  Like I said though it is bound with the notion of 'love' that has been fed to us since birth through social conditioning {another story}.  But lust/love does consume {especially} teenage girls' thoughts.

Chicks have just as much right as guys to have multiple partners without being judged or labelled for this {consensual/safer}.

I still don't get the whole 'respect your body' thing?  If you are talking about issues of self esteem I can understand, but I don't understand your argument here exactly  

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I agree here completely. A girl SHOULD be an equal and satified participant, but this only really occurs when she is in a relationship, and is not seen to be easy.

Why - chicks can enjoy one night stands too.
Easy - how does the labelling of 'easy' affect the chick's ability to be an equal and satisfied participant?

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Imo girls who 'put out' on a regular basis are just seen as trophies for guys, something that one can gloat about screwing.

Do you think this is OK?  Do you think that this is less respectful to a girl's body than her ability to appreciate and enjoy sex?

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. Men can have as many sexual encounters as they like, whereas woman start to enjoy their sexuality, and they are usually condemned for it.

Why can men have as many as they like?  Should woman be condemned?  


To me it seems that by placing all the responsibility, blame, guilt on the chick - guys can do whatever they please because it is always an attribute of the girl that 'made' them do it, or made it possible for them to do it.  People then use labels to justify negative attitudes and behaviours towards them.  

This is what damages girls.  This is what lowers their self-worth.  These are the things that can lead to mental health problems and self-medication.  It is not the act of sexual intercourse itself {consensual,safer} that is damaging chicks - it is the attitudes of others and the labelling - the misuse by boys who say one thing to 'get in her pants' and then back down on this - AND then gloat about their exploits.  THEN blame the girl - because she was just EASY anyway.

There needs to be a shift in this thinking.  And it can start with YOU




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DarkTitan
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posted July 31, 2006 11:52 AM

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OK, to paraphrase: chicks who enjoy sex as much as guys {and have multiple partners} do not respect their bodies?

I personally disagree with this statement on a number of levels.

As I have already said - yes girls can and should enjoy sex as much as guys - and yes some of us think about it ALOT.  Like I said though it is bound with the notion of 'love' that has been fed to us since birth through social conditioning {another story}.  But lust/love does consume {especially} teenage girls' thoughts.

Chicks have just as much right as guys to have multiple partners without being judged or labelled for this {consensual/safer}.

I still don't get the whole 'respect your body' thing?  If you are talking about issues of self esteem I can understand, but I don't understand your argument here exactly .


I agree with you in saying that girls should be able to sleep with whom ever they choose, without being labelled a snow. But the truth is this is not how it works (well where i live and my age bracket). Girls that have sex, and as DS pointed out make it public, will in turn attract much scrutiny, unlike a boy who recieves accolades for his efforts. When i say respect their bodies, im not sure i no wot i mean etha.. haha nah its a term a friend told me. She implied it in the sense that a girl who respects herself will not simply sleep with many men to gain popularity.. the difference is guys would do it in a second.. lol i no this myt sound wrong, but i think that sex is more to a girl then a boy. In society we live in, its the gurl that gets the bad rep, and guys dont. I dont write the rules i just live by them.
 

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Easy - how does the labelling of 'easy' affect the chick's ability to be an equal and satisfied participant?


Because.. if she is viewed as easy, then she is not going to be treated as an equal participant. As a guy, i may care for the girl, may think shes awesome, but im not sure i can respect a girl that can simply open her legs to me. Im not saying that a girl that has sex with her boyfrend is easy, im talking bout the girls u screw then ask questions later. Guys do treat girls like property. I know this might sound wrong, but it is the guys that are the ones who willingly divuldge their love lives to any1 to sound 'cooler'. Most girls do not do this, once again because both sexes hav different views on sex.

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Do you think this is OK?  Do you think that this is less respectful to a girl's body than her ability to appreciate and enjoy sex?



No i dont think it is ok that guys can treat girls as trophies, its not rely respectful to the girls, but it happens anywayz. Is the girls reputation in the community worth sexual enjoyment? Because sadly this is what most girls sacrifice when they decide to enjoy sex without love.

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Why can men have as many sexual encounters as they like?  Should woman be condemned?  

BECAUSE THIS IS HOW IT IS. lol nahh but seriously, i think it basically comes down to the fact a guy sticks it in, pulls it out, then really doesnt have to worry to much after that. A girl can get 'loose', pregnant and this is why. Consequences are much greater; a girl risks so much more for lust.

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To me it seems that by placing all the responsibility, blame, guilt on the chick - guys can do whatever they please because it is always an attribute of the girl that 'made' them do it, or made it possible for them to do it.  People then use labels to justify negative attitudes and behaviours towards them.  .


No i disagree. Why? Because its not that girls make guys do it. It is seen the other way around. Girls are led into sex by guys. Only one time has a girl been the 1 to initiate sex. That experience was great, and id appreciate it so much more if it happened more often.. however this particular girl has quite a rep, and i was neither surprised, nor were ma frends, that i 'got lucky'.. She is viewed negatively, not rely marriage material lol..

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This is what damages girls.  This is what lowers their self-worth.  These are the things that can lead to mental health problems and self-medication.  It is not the act of sexual intercourse itself {consensual,safer} that is damaging chicks - it is the attitudes of others and the labelling - the misuse by boys who say one thing to 'get in her pants' and then back down on this - AND then gloat about their exploits.  THEN blame the girl - because she was just EASY anyway.


I dont no much about this. Girls can become damaged just like boys, and i guess that ridiculing of their sexual experience will cause upset. However girls no in society today, they cant give into sexual desires constantly like guys. Is this fair? no and i dont think so, but its a way of life. Guys do say stuff to get girls. They do term them easy. They do gloat. Im not sure wot u mean by blame, but snows are seen as trophies, not as real people. If this truly bothers a geniune 'snow' then she can change. Because society isnt gonna be any less cruel simply because girls are becoming upset.

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There needs to be a shift in this thinking.  And it can start with YOU


haha this is sooo not fair.. lol i never stated that i made these beliefs, but i guess i do follow them. I am a guy, i do gloat about my exploits, and im proud of them. Girls do have reputations, and i listen to them. Im not against women.. rather i love them lol but i cant say that women should sleep with every1 and not have a rep, wen thats wot happens. If it was the other way around, i would be arguing my rights just like you are. But the fact of the matter is no matter how much i agree with your case, girls who have sex with randoms, wil get a reputation, whilst boys will be seen as sexual experts, bearing envy from their friends..

i no i have made a few bold statements, lol and im terrified your going to crucify where i have slipped up ... haha but stil, you must realise that in the day and age we live in, what i am saying does have some truth.
look forward to arguing further with you hehe

Thanks, DT

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posted July 31, 2006 01:26 PM bonus applied.

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OK, to paraphrase: chicks who enjoy sex as much as guys {and have multiple partners} do not respect their bodies?

I personally disagree with this statement on a number of levels.

As I have already said - yes girls can and should enjoy sex as much as guys - and yes some of us think about it ALOT.  Like I said though it is bound with the notion of 'love' that has been fed to us since birth through social conditioning {another story}.  But lust/love does consume {especially} teenage girls' thoughts.

Chicks have just as much right as guys to have multiple partners without being judged or labelled for this {consensual/safer}.

I still don't get the whole 'respect your body' thing?  If you are talking about issues of self esteem I can understand, but I don't understand your argument here exactly .


I agree with you in saying that girls should be able to sleep with whom ever they choose, without being labelled a snow. But the truth is this is not how it works (well where i live and my age bracket). Girls that have sex, and as DS pointed out make it public, will in turn attract much scrutiny, unlike a boy who recieves accolades for his efforts. When i say respect their bodies, im not sure i no wot i mean etha.. haha nah its a term a friend told me. She implied it in the sense that a girl who respects herself will not simply sleep with many men to gain popularity.. the difference is guys would do it in a second.. lol i no this myt sound wrong, but i think that sex is more to a girl then a boy. In society we live in, its the gurl that gets the bad rep, and guys dont. I dont write the rules i just live by them.
 

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Easy - how does the labelling of 'easy' affect the chick's ability to be an equal and satisfied participant?


Because.. if she is viewed as easy, then she is not going to be treated as an equal participant. As a guy, i may care for the girl, may think shes awesome, but im not sure i can respect a girl that can simply open her legs to me. Im not saying that a girl that has sex with her boyfrend is easy, im talking bout the girls u screw then ask questions later. Guys do treat girls like property. I know this might sound wrong, but it is the guys that are the ones who willingly divuldge their love lives to any1 to sound 'cooler'. Most girls do not do this, once again because both sexes hav different views on sex.

Quote:

Do you think this is OK?  Do you think that this is less respectful to a girl's body than her ability to appreciate and enjoy sex?



No i dont think it is ok that guys can treat girls as trophies, its not rely respectful to the girls, but it happens anywayz. Is the girls reputation in the community worth sexual enjoyment? Because sadly this is what most girls sacrifice when they decide to enjoy sex without love.

Quote:

Why can men have as many sexual encounters as they like?  Should woman be condemned?  

BECAUSE THIS IS HOW IT IS. lol nahh but seriously, i think it basically comes down to the fact a guy sticks it in, pulls it out, then really doesnt have to worry to much after that. A girl can get 'loose', pregnant and this is why. Consequences are much greater; a girl risks so much more for lust.

Quote:
To me it seems that by placing all the responsibility, blame, guilt on the chick - guys can do whatever they please because it is always an attribute of the girl that 'made' them do it, or made it possible for them to do it.  People then use labels to justify negative attitudes and behaviours towards them.  .


No i disagree. Why? Because its not that girls make guys do it. It is seen the other way around. Girls are led into sex by guys. Only one time has a girl been the 1 to initiate sex. That experience was great, and id appreciate it so much more if it happened more often.. however this particular girl has quite a rep, and i was neither surprised, nor were ma frends, that i 'got lucky'.. She is viewed negatively, not rely marriage material lol..

Quote:
This is what damages girls.  This is what lowers their self-worth.  These are the things that can lead to mental health problems and self-medication.  It is not the act of sexual intercourse itself {consensual,safer} that is damaging chicks - it is the attitudes of others and the labelling - the misuse by boys who say one thing to 'get in her pants' and then back down on this - AND then gloat about their exploits.  THEN blame the girl - because she was just EASY anyway.


I dont no much about this. Girls can become damaged just like boys, and i guess that ridiculing of their sexual experience will cause upset. However girls no in society today, they cant give into sexual desires constantly like guys. Is this fair? no and i dont think so, but its a way of life. Guys do say stuff to get girls. They do term them easy. They do gloat. Im not sure wot u mean by blame, but snows are seen as trophies, not as real people. If this truly bothers a geniune 'snow' then she can change. Because society isnt gonna be any less cruel simply because girls are becoming upset.

Quote:

There needs to be a shift in this thinking.  And it can start with YOU


haha this is sooo not fair.. lol i never stated that i made these beliefs, but i guess i do follow them. I am a guy, i do gloat about my exploits, and im proud of them. Girls do have reputations, and i listen to them. Im not against women.. rather i love them lol but i cant say that women should sleep with every1 and not have a rep, wen thats wot happens. If it was the other way around, i would be arguing my rights just like you are. But the fact of the matter is no matter how much i agree with your case, girls who have sex with randoms, wil get a reputation, whilst boys will be seen as sexual experts, bearing envy from their friends..

i no i have made a few bold statements, lol and im terrified your going to crucify where i have slipped up ... haha but stil, you must realise that in the day and age we live in, what i am saying does have some truth.
look forward to arguing further with you hehe

Thanks, DT



I have to comment & mostly disagree with alot on here.
I will # them by quotes since I cant do your paregraph quoting like yall do lol.

1)I agree with you but only to an extent in many ways Titan.
There are women who dont respect thier bodies & believe sex is what love is.
Theres also many sex addicted women out there who just want it.
They love sex & it's a good feeling.
I always said in the past before TNTINA & all them came in.
Women are alot hornier then men are. Plain fact,They just dont brag like we do

2)Cant really argue with you on this since you dont understand .
Guys are called pigs & women snows.
It's the same except women are called worst & we just laugh at being called a pig lol.
It goes both ways. WOmen & guys see sex in different ways.
I know some girls who would have sex with you the first day they see you if they like you.
Cant just put it on one sex.It's the same & you cant label every man.

3)Unfortunately this is true when girls are young & in high school though.Were young & women do put out in a way younger age now.
I dont think we look at that anymore.
When were older we understand alot more on why women have sex with multiple partners.
Some women disrespect thierselves & love it.
Others cant help it because they love it.

4)WRONG. That is not how it is & men have to take the responsibility as much as a woman. Sure women go through alot more when it comes to sex, like how you explained.Consequences is shared both ways. Risk goes more on the women part because i know where your going on this.
Men have to take responsibility otherwise he better make some good money .
Be a man (I wonder how Titan felt when he made these replies )

5)WRONG. Where do you come from lol. Have you ever heard the word Seduce.
Many women seduces men to have sex & it is so hard to get out of it when they do.You have to have alot of willpower to withstand a beautiful womans seduction.I do agree with you that shes not marriage material I am sure she knows that also though.
Do you think alot of women actually care if thier labeled or not these days?

6)Then let me help you on this Titan.She talking about rape similar issues.The harsh words that come out of our mouths that shatters thier whole confidence.
It's just like hearing your parents put you down & make you believe your stupid.
Same thang with a relationship.Guys OR WOMEN do it also.
They do it so much that they start to make you think that it's true.
Yea you should know better but if it's enough to make you unstable, then thats harsh.
No Titan sometimes sex is genuine.Why should a woman stop when it's the guy who is gloating about the sex.
For one it's imature for the guy to even gloat.
These days we dont care to brag about sex.
For two, the sex can be genuine & it shouldnt be talked about like if she is a snow.

7)I see this as a sarcasm remark that you replied to .
Otherwise i couldnt agree with you more LOL.
(Am I being sarcastic too or am I serious on this particular reply to Titan ?)




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posted August 01, 2006 12:19 PM

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1)I agree with you but only to an extent in many ways Titan.
There are women who dont respect thier bodies & believe sex is what love is.
Theres also many sex addicted women out there who just want it.
They love sex & it's a good feeling.
I always said in the past before TNTINA & all them came in.
Women are alot hornier then men are. Plain fact,They just dont brag like we do

2)Cant really argue with you on this since you dont understand .
Guys are called pigs & women snows.
It's the same except women are called worst & we just laugh at being called a pig lol.
It goes both ways. WOmen & guys see sex in different ways.
I know some girls who would have sex with you the first day they see you if they like you.
Cant just put it on one sex.It's the same & you cant label every man.

3)Unfortunately this is true when girls are young & in high school though.Were young & women do put out in a way younger age now.
I dont think we look at that anymore.
When were older we understand alot more on why women have sex with multiple partners.
Some women disrespect thierselves & love it.
Others cant help it because they love it.

4)WRONG. That is not how it is & men have to take the responsibility as much as a woman. Sure women go through alot more when it comes to sex, like how you explained.Consequences is shared both ways. Risk goes more on the women part because i know where your going on this.
Men have to take responsibility otherwise he better make some good money .
Be a man (I wonder how Titan felt when he made these replies )

5)WRONG. Where do you come from lol. Have you ever heard the word Seduce.
Many women seduces men to have sex & it is so hard to get out of it when they do.You have to have alot of willpower to withstand a beautiful womans seduction.I do agree with you that shes not marriage material I am sure she knows that also though.
Do you think alot of women actually care if thier labeled or not these days?

6)Then let me help you on this Titan.She talking about rape similar issues.The harsh words that come out of our mouths that shatters thier whole confidence.
It's just like hearing your parents put you down & make you believe your stupid.
Same thang with a relationship.Guys OR WOMEN do it also.
They do it so much that they start to make you think that it's true.
Yea you should know better but if it's enough to make you unstable, then thats harsh.
No Titan sometimes sex is genuine.Why should a woman stop when it's the guy who is gloating about the sex.
For one it's imature for the guy to even gloat.
These days we dont care to brag about sex.
For two, the sex can be genuine & it shouldnt be talked about like if she is a snow.

7)I see this as a sarcasm remark that you replied to .
Otherwise i couldnt agree with you more LOL.
(Am I being sarcastic too or am I serious on this particular reply to Titan ?)




how is it that i get singled out?? haha nahh its all gud i love arguin my points aswell..

Hehe iv sorta realised something, i guess the age difference, and the fact we live in different places might have something to do with out differing opinions haha..

1. When you say women are alot hornier then guys, lol i definitly believe it. They are defintly better at hiding it tho.. I dont see a girl disrespecting her body, if she has sex with someone she truly cares about. However sex to feel good, thats a different story.

2. Im not 100% sure here i can agree lol maybe i dont know.. haha i know a number of boys who should be classified as pigs, yet they are not (no not me ) i dont think at my age, boys are seen like that. Maybe this is wrong, who knows. But girls are definitly labelled, and its tru they definitly care about that. But i agree there are girls who want sex as much as guys, and they should both be labelled equally, but i dont think thats how it works.

3. Haha but i am in high school!! lol well ma last year but still, and i know many gurls who have been having sex for a number of years, with multiple partners. Reasons youv suggested i agree with.

4. Ok, i have alwayz made sure iv covered ma own ass, by using protection, or if she was using the pill or woteva. I would check to see if condom was leaking. Lol i definitly dont want a child yet. Ok i guess while pregnancy, and even STI's are not rely possibilities, the main issue is 'looseness'. A guy can claim hes a virgin every time.. sometimes it works in actually gettin the girls (not that iv tried it ) but i see it as a big issue. How can i respect a girl for letting me screw her, if i no im about the 50th dick in her in a very short period of time? These girls aint matured, they are younger then 18 most of them.

im in hurry (so much hw) so im just gonna skip to ur last point..

7. Im am totally confused.. Or am i? lol nahh i realise she was using sarcasm, but she had a hint of truth to it. I probly do need to change ma attitude ina way, and i think thats wot she was pointing out. Just coz the use of the smilie doesnt mean u can completely disregard a comment.. lol
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posted August 01, 2006 01:58 PM

Please stop calling me she guys - kookie, kooka, kookastar, k?

I don't have time at the moment to respond to all these issues, although I could have pulled out a few

I agree with alot of what DT is saying, that this is the way society is - this is how girls/women are viewed.  My point was that we or YOU are society.  It is not some outside 'thing' it is us - a collective.  We have the power to change our own attitudes and to {at least try } to help others to question why they blindly follow these dominant ideologies.

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It is interesting to look at the 'rules' that we choose to live by and those that we discard

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im terrified your going to crucify where i have slipped up

no you're not - you are the only one left here that has fun arguing with me, please don't stop
Thanks Pecu for the backup though - great post

btw, I'm not sure if you meant just Pecu or me, but I am an aussie too, and although it has been a while since I was your age,I stil remember these years and I really don't think all that much has changed.  I am a high school teacher so I guess I watch these things happening everyday.  I cannot give opinions there however, just facts
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Ok i guess while pregnancy, and even STI's are not rely possibilities, the main issue is 'looseness'

I would like to remind you though that STIs are very real, and that just because you can't get pregnant doesn't mean you are not taking a risk if you are having unprotected intercourse - if she is on the pill {sorry, I had to say it }  

This looseness thing again I give up *throws hand in the air*.  You get my point, we don't have to agree  If you even think for a second before you call someone a snow for enjoying sex, I will feel happier

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posted August 01, 2006 11:01 PM

On your first agreeing with Dark Titan.
Yea unfortunately it is like that but when you get older, you begin to see why it's like that.
Kids in high school are not mature enough to understand why.
There may be some that are but thier in a group so they want to look good.

WHen you get older you know whos the snowty type & whos not.
Women put thierselves in that position but sometimes thier forced.

It is a fact, women need it more then men .
We just advertise it is all.
WOmen are freaks in thier own way.
Again they dont advertise.
The only time they advertise it is with other women friends alone.
Or they talk in the bathroom.

Titan i bet you didnt know.
Women talk to thier best GF's about all thier BF sex.
Even people they know.
Even you.
Other women friends you know in real life know if your good in bed or not .
DOnt let them down.
Damn women or too damn horny for us

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posted August 01, 2006 11:20 PM

LOL

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You betcha

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Other women friends you know in real life know if your good in bed or not .
DOnt let them down.
Damn women or too damn horny for us




Nice advice Pecu.  Don't let us down

Every female thanks you
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posted August 02, 2006 02:35 AM


haha yesss im fully aware that you recieve a critique on your performance from her frends.. I no girls will tell their best frends, and closer frends, but guys will tell anyone. thats the difference. I used to get in trouble wen i would reveal all, when she believed we should be telling very few. She promised me that she didnt give out exact details, but i know she lied lol..

Also sorry kookie, i will make sure i dont use the term "she" again. but im glad u enjoy our incessant arguing hehe.. I have already been grilled by a couple of girls for believing protection was useless if the girl claims shes on the pill, i guess i just didnt think. These girls being at such a young age, i dont rely believe that they could hav had the sexual experience to contract STI's. But now i know the truth. I almost actually payed for my stupidity lol..

But then i think it leads to the question: are girls having sex too early? (I would have used the term 'and boys' but id rather see if my somewhat sexist attitude can stir up and angry response )

If so, what is the right age?
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posted August 02, 2006 05:04 AM

Yea she gets mad when you say she
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posted August 02, 2006 08:38 AM
Edited by kookastar at 08:41, 02 Aug 2006.

What he said

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see if my somewhat sexist attitude can stir up and angry response

heehee I haven't been angry here yet

As for your question:
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are girls having sex too early...what is the right age?


I think I asked this question a couple of pages back

I am not going to answer it, all I will say is that it is up to the individuals, and the issue is more on whether they are informed enough (and mature enough to really understand this), the sex is concensual, positive, and 'safer'.  The positive means that they are doing it for reasons that are not harmful to their self concept/image/health.  

Like I said before there are a lot worse things that teenagers can do to their bodies than have sex.  Is it respecting your body to get into physical fights, self harm, or take drugs?  A girl might be a virgin but go out and take E's every weekend - is she respecting her body because she is not loose lol {man I get sidetracked easily }

On the STI issue - I was not referring to HIV in particular, there are alot of other STIs that are more prevalent.  Such as Chlamydia which is Australia’s most common sexually transmitted infection.  It can go undetected for years.  Also did you hear that condoms can also help protect against cerviacal cancer - because chicks are protected against the viral infection that causes it.

Wow we have really led this thread waaaayyyyyyyy of topic now lol

I guess I have just about run out of words, thanks for the debate.  Look foward to you starting a new one for me  


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posted August 02, 2006 09:30 AM

Then I will answer it.
Yes women are I believe having sex at an earliar age.
Theres more information on it now.
People know more & on tv theres alot more legal stuff to see & hear.

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posted August 02, 2006 04:54 PM

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I no girls will tell their best frends, and closer frends, but guys will tell anyone.
I don't think that's the only difference. Most guys (if not all!) will NEVER go into as much details as the girls will! The girls will let their friends know everything, and by everything I mean EVERYTHING. EVERY LITTLE DETAIL! The guys will stop at "we did it 4534534556 times yesterday", "oh yea, she was a good lay!", or "she does great bjs!", but I was when I realized the amount of details the girls go in.

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posted August 02, 2006 05:55 PM

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I no girls will tell their best frends, and closer frends, but guys will tell anyone.
I don't think that's the only difference. Most guys (if not all!) will NEVER go into as much details as the girls will! The girls will let their friends know everything, and by everything I mean EVERYTHING. EVERY LITTLE DETAIL! The guys will stop at "we did it 4534534556 times yesterday", "oh yea, she was a good lay!", or "she does great bjs!", but I was when I realized the amount of details the girls go in.


We don't tell everything!!! We do however compare all the time with what our GF's are doing. Not how many times but what did he do for you....You guys are cute...4534534556 times? Someone is not walking for awhile...
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posted August 02, 2006 06:48 PM
Edited by russ at 18:51, 02 Aug 2006.

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You guys are cute...4534534556 times? Someone is not walking for awhile...
Well, most guys can't help it. They just can't stop at "hard to belive". They brag up to a point where it becomes "you are so full of s**t, it is not even funny"

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posted August 02, 2006 08:31 PM
Edited by violent_flower at 21:37, 02 Aug 2006.

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You guys are cute...4534534556 times? Someone is not walking for awhile...
Well, most guys can't help it. They just can't stop at "hard to belive". They brag up to a point where it becomes "you are so full of s**t, it is not even funny"


Without men the world wood (would) be so boring...To not have the male ego to stroke and pet wood just be a lose to a society that has mushroomed out and has become more acceptable of the stroked ego. It is hard to imagine throwing all our balls into one tight corner of the world and giving into the female outlook. We love the way your opinions sway back and forth from a gentleman to a man who brags to an unrealistic climax. The women’s lips of America must come together and form a tight seal if you will, on the male bashing.
Thank God for men…..  

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