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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Best Faction Poll
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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted March 28, 2007 04:40 PM

If the game takes like 3 months on ultra-rich map, nothing can stop fortress indeed (maybe except haven). But such situations happen rarely, besides you can always put some pressure on the shorties

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Istari
Istari


Known Hero
Truth Teller, ToH
posted March 28, 2007 04:53 PM

I surprised that Inferno isn't getting more votes.  You know this poll includes being able to use Deleb don't you?  Maybe they are not as powerful as I thought, even with Deleb.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted March 28, 2007 04:54 PM

I think there are worse things than Deleb now. It doesn't mean she's weak or smth, ofc..

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted March 28, 2007 06:39 PM

Quote:
I think there are worse things than Deleb now.


True True
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Istari
Istari


Known Hero
Truth Teller, ToH
posted March 28, 2007 08:01 PM

Academy is looking stronger in the polls than I thought it would.
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Ted
Ted


Promising
Supreme Hero
Peanut Exterminator
posted March 28, 2007 09:44 PM

i agree, i think the polls are really showing how much people dislike Inferno, and surprisingly Necro are low in the polls with Dungeon, odd due to a lot of people saying the think Dungeon is the strongest
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PhoenixReborn
PhoenixReborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted March 28, 2007 10:31 PM

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gating makes creeping easier.


Does it really?  I find that by the time my units have gated in, it's too late.  I mean this against shooters, which is the only place where I really need them.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 28, 2007 10:37 PM

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i agree, i think the polls are really showing how much people dislike Inferno, and surprisingly Necro are low in the polls with Dungeon, odd due to a lot of people saying the think Dungeon is the strongest


Huh? Dungeon was called the strongest faction in the very beginning of H5. It's not been called so for quite a long time.

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feluniozbunio
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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted March 28, 2007 10:42 PM

I haven't seen many Dungeon TOH players. None except me in fact. maybe ive played with too few people but i feel like its Angelic side and Necro in game only.
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Beowolf
Beowolf


Adventuring Hero
posted March 28, 2007 10:55 PM

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gating makes creeping easier.


Does it really?  I find that by the time my units have gated in, it's too late.  I mean this against shooters, which is the only place where I really need them.



Why yes indeed. IF You how to use them. Gating next to ranged stacks is only one way. The more troops we can gate, the more enemy retaliations they can eat and the more chances there are for hellfire to kick in. Sounds like a fine deal to me
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lord_crusader
lord_crusader


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UHU!! supreme!
posted March 28, 2007 11:37 PM
Edited by lord_crusader at 23:37, 28 Mar 2007.

I find inferno strong specially vs magic oponents I mean academy and dungeon... that insane mana imps in much cases leave this kind of heroes is very few mana points... specially if you can get one first turn with all your stack of imps and gate them...
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PhoenixReborn
PhoenixReborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted March 28, 2007 11:41 PM

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gating makes creeping easier.

Why yes indeed. IF You how to use them. Gating next to ranged stacks is only one way.


Beowulf you still haven't answered my point.

I'm saying that against shooting neutrals they will get a shot in before your gated troops arrive, no matter what skills your hero has.  Gating works well against flyers and walkers because they can't hit on the first turn.

I'm more likely to run out part way with my nightmares and hope they get morale.
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Beowolf
Beowolf


Adventuring Hero
posted March 28, 2007 11:46 PM
Edited by Beowolf at 23:47, 28 Mar 2007.

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gating makes creeping easier.

Why yes indeed. IF You how to use them. Gating next to ranged stacks is only one way.


Beowulf you still haven't answered my point.

I'm saying that against shooting neutrals they will get a shot in before your gated troops arrive, no matter what skills your hero has.  Gating works well against flyers and walkers because they can't hit on the first turn.



Thats the whole point. W/o utlimate enemy rangers will manage to get one shot before blocked. But is still better than allowing them to shoot at least 2 times if You want to reach them normaly (unless we have windstrider boots, cerberi and nightmares).
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Sanyu
Sanyu


Known Hero
posted March 29, 2007 03:27 PM

Lol Inferno totally rocks and gating is very useful in gating.

I wont mind having a match with a fortress or dungeon or haven player.

Contact me if you want to : stygianstar2005@gmail.com


P.S I'm not one of those pro players; aka Doomforge

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TowerLord
TowerLord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 29, 2007 05:28 PM

Wooow Academy is the most voted faction !!! Haven isn't a surprise certainly, and all the other towns seem to be balanced in people preferences... I guess this says something about the game : not as big imbalances as there used to be

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atma6
atma6

Tavern Dweller
posted March 29, 2007 07:15 PM

Haven is a powerful faction, but the patches have turned them from a totally overpowered faction to simply a 1st rate one. With still exploitable Marksmen, and Paladins, on top of their powerful hero choices its hard not to give a nod to Haven.

The Inferno, I would put it up among the weaker factions. Deleb is extremely powerful, but their other heroes don't have the punch that Haven heroes have. Their creatures, while fast, aren't too devestating, minus the Familiar vs. Warlocks.

The Necropolis it seems was either weakened or strengthened by the newest patch. For one, against Sylvan their skelleton archers won't always make the top favoured enemy list, but for another they lose their main advantage. They also can't continue to gain numbers all weak with the new limit. Still with Lucretia those extra vamps might pull their weight. I think that they are a middle of the road faction that can be devastating or weak depending on the map, but is not necessarily one or the other.

I really can't comment on Sylvan or the Dwarves as I rarely play them, but they seem strong-average.

The Academy is where I cast my vote. I used to play the Academy normally and aside from some advantages, I would have classified them as one of, if not the weakest faction. That is until I started playing using the MMR. With this strategy I have seen that the Academy has far more potential than I gave them credit for.

As for Dungeon, I think that they are the most situational. You can theoretically tear everything up with their magic, but there are many counters to that and their units don't have the goods the other factions have. I really think that they depend primarily on the map and your opponent.
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radar
radar


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted March 29, 2007 07:43 PM
Edited by radar at 19:44, 29 Mar 2007.

Quote:
haven!! I love haven... did I say Haven ?? yes!! haven


I do love also, but IMO fortress is the best, sadly it beats haven with high defence. magma dragons defensive formation offensive formation absolutly damaging rune patriarch

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86wyp
86wyp


Adventuring Hero
posted March 29, 2007 08:40 PM

can't see the results

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Istari
Istari


Known Hero
Truth Teller, ToH
posted March 29, 2007 11:17 PM

You can see the results by voting or clicking the results button on the first post in this thread.
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sdfx
sdfx


Famous Hero
posted March 30, 2007 02:03 AM

Hmm, actually the results make perfect sense because Academy is considered the best "I will creep like mad, breakthrough everything with magic and rush ASAP while my level, arties and magic are still hot" castle and haven is considered the best "If you aren't fast enough, I'll have enough time to get the best stats and the best army" castle.

So, depending on map's "rushiness" it's either haven or academy.
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