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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 19, 2007 07:10 PM |
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Love it. 
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 20, 2007 07:49 AM |
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the best idea is the polar bear
definetly
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted May 20, 2007 12:42 PM |
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That joke you posted was awesome !!! ... And cool line up, creative just like Nival 
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted May 20, 2007 01:22 PM |
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... And cool line up, creative just like Nival
LOL
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted May 20, 2007 02:26 PM |
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Ok the after the sylvan alternatives have been revealed, the score is as follows:
Emilsn: 
Good guesses:
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Hunter - Sniper - With 1 shop (not two like M Hunter) No ranged penalty, Huge dmg and new better camoflage look... (That sounds nice)
the name isn't exactly accurate but the description is. Good guess.+
Lith-Maethor:
Good Guesses:
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1.Pixie--> Dryad - bigger, badder, even more scantly clad
hard to say if she's bigger, but she's indeed badder (+1 max damage) and the name is correct. +
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3.Hunter--> Sharpshooter - whaaat? you knew i'd say that
And you did a good job ;p +
ChironCentaur:
Good Guesses:
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LV. 1 pixie--> Dryad, Casts slow instead of Clensing (They call on those thorns that appear when you cast slow) also more tankish
The name is still good, despite the other things are a bad guess. Still, +
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LV. 5 Unicorn--> Battle unicorn, Better attack and Damage but no aura of magic resistance
The name isn't correct, but the unit indeed has better damage and no aura of magic resistance. Since it was nearly impossible to guess "white unicorn" and "bond of light", I decided to give a point here even though the guess isn't exactly accurate  +
Try to guess more.. 6 castles remaining!
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 20, 2007 09:45 PM |
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Haven:
Peasant > Pikeman = Better Defense
Archer > Longbowman = Archers stats whit Double Shot ability
Footman > Crusader = Two Swords whit double strike and hopefully more initiative/speed
Griffin > Royal Griffin = No armor or dive. Whiter than normal and faster
Priest > Zealot = Diffrent light magic spells. Just little higher damage
Cavalier > Crusader = (If not lv3 it must be lv6!) More armored horses. More Def, Less Speed
Angel > Seraph = No Resurrection. Word of Ligh spell
Necropolis:
Skeleton > Skeleton Warrior = Better Att,Def,Speed than Skellie Archers
Zombie > Mutant Zombie = Poison Attack and increased health
Ghost > Phantom = No more Incorporeal but has mind control over enemies and can cast Confusion
Vampire > Nosferatu = No Sword anymore. Better Att/Damage/Initiative than Lords but weaker in Def/Hitpoints
Lich > Chaos Lich = A bit weaker than Archlich but has Raise Dead spell
Wight > Reaper = Death Gaze! Decreased stats in ToE and whit ability to kill 0.1 creatures per Reaper
Bone Dragon > Ghost Dragon = No Incorporeal ability but Cursing attack is changed for -1 morale penalty and for better speed
Academy:
Gremlin > Battle Gremlin = No repair or high initiative but increased Att,Damage,Health. Why not Critters?
Stone Gargoyle > Earth Gargoyle = Earth and Lightning immunity
Iron Golem > Gold Golem = Mutch more expensive. 85% Magic Proof. Even more tougher
Mage > Battle Mage = Increased damage or more destructive spells. Less mana and health
Djinn > Djinn Master = Uses random level 1-3 destructive spells instead of Dark magics.
Rakshasa Rani > Zakya Rakshasa = Six handet, attacks all adjancent enemies. Lower damage. It should be Nagasha tough
Colossus > Giant = No range ability. Little more health and speed.
Fortress:
Defender > Protector = Lower damage and health than Shieldguard but has Shield Allies ability instead of Shield Wall
Spearwielder > Spear Hunter = No melee penalty is replaced whit new Hunter ability. Morale bonus after each stack destroyed
Bear Rider > Bear Raider = Lower Def and Health than Blacks but has more speed and attack
Brawler > Kamikaze = Better damage but even worse health
Rune Priest > White Priest = Similiar statics as Patriarchs but has new Light magic spells
Thane > Stormlord = Increased damage/attack. Has fewer health than Warlord
Fire Dragon > Lava Dragon = Somewhere between Fire and Magma Dragon. Lower stats and cheaper cost. Perhaps +1 initiative
Dungeon:
Scout > Rogue = No range ability. No enemy retalation. Little more damage and speed.
Blood Maiden > Blood Elf = More defense/health less initiative
Minotaur > Minotaur King = No double attack but increased defense, damage and initiative
Dark Raider > Dark Champion = Higher attack rating and no lizard bite
Hydra > Chaos Hydra = Stats little more offensive way than Deep Hydras
Shadow Witch > Black Witch = Whip Strike is changed for Imbue Shot whit Slow and Weakness spell
Shadow Dragon > Red Dragon = Slightly weaker than Black Dragon and Fire immunity instead of Magical
Inferno:
Imp > Dark Imp = Steals mana for himself. Has Fire Ball spell but dosen't have any mana points at start
Horned Demon > Demon Warrior = No more Explosion ability but has more health and attack
Hell Hound > Demon Hound = Big static increases but looses three head attack
Succubus > Magog = Male version. Dosen't have Chain Shot but by far greater damage
Hell Charger > Hell Steed = Fright Aura changed to Rider Charge
Pit Fiend > Pit Demon = Less mana and more initiative
Devil > Lucifer = Not as brutal as Devil but can also summon Pit Lords from a spell:
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emilsn
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posted May 20, 2007 10:30 PM |
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Lets try a necro line up. Thoughest one, i must say...
Skeleton - Skeleton Warrior - Freezing hatchet(slows enemy)
Zombie - Frozen Zombie - Frozen body(slows enemy when attacked) +3 more health and 1 in def
Ghost - Banshee - I quote the dictionary: A Ghost whom Scream is a sign of death. No mana, A incorporeal that easier to hit, 6 speed, a litte more health and a curse that in increase Dmg done to The foe
Vampire - Vampire Knight(from Dark Messiah) . It's an amoured Vampire with Shield and Sword . No teleport, Attack twice and harder to take down (It can not steal life because of no human contact, because of armour.. They are stupid in a way, but best way to balance them?)
Lich - Ice Lich(stolen from page 11 idea) - No deathcloud but freezing att. (same as Zombie and skeleton) can cast ice bolt and Circle of winter , 16 mana.
Wight - Reaper - Freezing Touch(makes the enemy lose a turn) 10 more health and -1 Att.
Bone Dragon - Ghost Dragon - Just like in old times. -1 moral to enemy creatures, 20% chance to age people (halve Hp of all stack members) ... Just like in the old days...
Edit: Changed a couple of creatures into Ice idea, which was mentioned later in this topic (page 11)
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Lesij
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posted May 20, 2007 10:39 PM |
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Edited by Lesij at 22:39, 20 May 2007.
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Thane-> Mountain Frenzier- Powerfull creature dealing huge damage with two hammer-axes; double attack and no enemy retailation abilities; but without teleportation and storm strike.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted May 21, 2007 02:10 AM |
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Imp -> Gog (throws stolen mana at enemies)
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sgjedi
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posted May 21, 2007 04:15 AM |
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As for the Rainbow Dragon, someone on Ubi forums suggested changing it to Prismatic dragon.
I hope they do that or change it to Prism Dragon (like the prism tanks in Red Alert 2) I think that would keep the same meaning but make it a more intimidating name. I mean as it is Sylvan has freakin' unicorns which are normally associated with little girls. Just Sayin'
Alternate Fortress Upgrades.
1. Defender –> Offender: a dwarf that unleashes multiple racial slurs per combat and causes other creatures to become enraged. Recruited from Westborough Baptist Church. Very low growth
2. Spearwielder –> Beerwielder: A drunken dwarf that is trained in the ways of the mead. Special Ability is during a seige this creature can load a keg into the catapult, thus disorienting all creatures hit by it (including for once the undead)
3. Bear Rider –> Polar Bear: as soon as the dwarf tried to ride on a polar bear it was eaten. Does +100 damage for every seal it has eaten on the way to attacking the enemy.
4. Brawler –> Anger Brawler: Nival wanted to make a name for an enraged viking/dwarf brawler but since Berserker was already taken they unfortunately went the Treant route once again.
5. Rune Priest –> Rune Agnostic: Debates whether or not he believes runes exist, thus causing enemies to become confused.
6. Thane –> Titanic Dwarf: Is the only Xtra large creature in the game *Taking 8 hexes*(I owe this the inspiration for this idea: [url]http://www.celestialheavens.com/features/comics/beingcranky4.jpg[/url])
7. Fire Dragon –> Petroleum Dragon: can also be lit on fire but far more expensive than fire dragon.
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-This was priceless... I'm still laughing.
- I love reading "wishlists" like these cause a lot of funny ideas pop up.
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emilsn
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posted May 21, 2007 07:35 AM |
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Inferno:
Imp > Dark Imp = Steals mana for himself. Has Fire Ball spell but dosen't have any mana points at start
Succubus > Magog = Male version. Dosen't have Chain Shot but by far greater damage
Devil > Lucifer = Not as brutal as Devil but can also summon Pit Lords from a spell:
Dark imp, to make that balanced it should only be abel to cast fireball once, else i would hate it - Its rather overpowered, and maybe call it fire imp ..
How did the Succubus become male? Hn? COnfused
How many Pit lords are talking about ? 1-5 or 5-10 ? how much mana ? Hmm...
But you really got good ideas for these guys ...
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 08:16 AM |
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Dark imp, to make that balanced it should only be abel to cast fireball once, else i would hate it - Its rather overpowered, and maybe call it fire imp.
Well you need to steal enemy heroes or spell casters mana before you can use Fire Ball spell. (Btw you need 40 Dark Imps to cast 1 Fire Ball. Fire Imp is not bad name either)
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How did the Succubus become male?
Well i'll doubt they change their sex but they did that for Genies in H3
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How many Pit lords are talking about ? 1-5 or 5-10 ? how much mana ? Hmm...
1 Summoned Pit Lord per Lucifer. Devils can summon x2 but thats only from dead stack.
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But you really got good ideas for these guys ...
Thanks
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sgjedi
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posted May 21, 2007 11:11 AM |
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Edited by sgjedi at 11:18, 21 May 2007.
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How did the Succubus become male? Hn? COnfused
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-Why's that? Not that I wanna be a smartass, but they even changed the genders of the Rakshasa Rani-> Raja upgrade in H5. It is not impossible, tho I'd hate the idea. I just love the Succubus Mistresses when I'm playing Inferno.
- I don't wanna get male (ghey/transvestite/crossdresser) Succubi. Females FTW.
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Olo
Hired Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 08:51 PM |
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i hope they will do sth with djinies.Alternative should be much more useful.
2 way
- Fighter - more HP (60 ), no spells but has sth like arcane shield -reduce 25% damage (also from spells) and a little bit more def
-Mage - the same amount of HP but with spellbook.Icebolt(adv), decay(adv),circle of winter,confusion(adv) -20 mana
just my 2 cents
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted May 22, 2007 08:56 PM |
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hey, hey! (a.k.a. hola, hola) What with Eruina? If Shadow Mistress is not a shooter, she would be useless in Eruina's army  it will be changed for sure
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Lesij
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posted May 22, 2007 09:11 PM |
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Edited by Lesij at 21:12, 22 May 2007.
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- Fighter - more HP (60 ), no spells but has sth like arcane shield -reduce 25% damage (also from spells) and a little bit more def
Can be same Hp but No enemy Reatilation, or at least Paw Strike would be great solution, Imho...
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ChironCentaur
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posted May 22, 2007 09:26 PM |
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New Dungeon Alternative upgrades and it seems that i've gotten some things that were on my wish list the scouts new upgrade doesn't have a ranged attack but does have invisibility plus the Hydras have some kind of poisonous thing called acid blood
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 09:47 PM |
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http://heroescommunity.com/images/rta.gif
New score!
Emilsn:
Lith-Maethor:
ChironCentaur:
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LV. 1 Scout-->Assilant, No ranged attack but is faster and can disappear from the enemy's sight for a few turns every battle
The name is different, but the unit description was a perfect guess. Indeed, faster, no ranged attack, and with invisibility! excelent. +
Me:
Good Guesses:
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1.Scout-->Stalker, no poison but no double range penalty, possibly more damage.
Well, indeed no double range penalty, cuz it can't shoot ;p It also has the poison, the rest (including the name) is correct ;p +
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7.Shadow Dragon-->Red Dragon, weaker than it's black cousin but comes with a better special & higher initiative. Partially magic resistant.
He turned out completely not magic resistant, the rest is correct though. +
Iblis:
Good guesses:
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1.Scout-->Stalker; 25% ethereal. No poison, slightly increased damage.
The name is correct, the rest is not, bah. Doesn't matter. +
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7.Shadow Dragon--> Red Dragon: Attack, damage lowered. Attacks in 3x3 square. Increased defense. Spell-immune.
Same as above: everything except the name is wrong, but bah, who cares. ;p +
Darkeye:
Good Guesses:
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Dungeon: Another Renegade faction with Red dragons, focusing more on combat than spells?
red dragons, right. +
Homer171:
Good Guesses:
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Scout > Rogue = No range ability. No enemy retalation. Little more damage and speed.
Well, it doesn't have no retal, but the rest is correct, save the name, but it's close enough (stalker ~ rogue). +
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Blood Maiden > Blood Elf = More defense/health less initiative
Very good guess about the statistical change; the name is bad tho ;p +
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Minotaur > Minotaur King = No double attack but increased defense, damage and initiative
Again, very good guess concerning statistics and specials! The name is close, though (king ~ chieftian) +
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Shadow Dragon > Red Dragon = Slightly weaker than Black Dragon and Fire immunity instead of Magical.
Well, it has no immunity, the rest is correct though. +
Godwine:
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3. Minotaur �> Minotaur Gladiator: gain better stats but lose the double attack
Exactly. the name is a bit different but who cares. +
Homer171 took the lead gl in the next rounds.
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 09:52 PM |
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Yay I liked Sylvan alternatives but i liked Dungeons even more! Good new units
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emilsn
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posted May 22, 2007 09:53 PM |
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What do the winner get Doom? You seem to have made a competition out it Are those stars going to be giving to the winner, eh?
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